FCPS Appeals decision are out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is principal placement? Our school is a center school and they do not have anything called PP. It appears decisions made by FCPS Appeal committee are final.

Principal Placement is at Local Level 4 schools. If they have 15 Level 4’s they will principal place 10 kids (often Level 3) into the Level 4 classroom.

[Anonymous]

Is anyone pursuing this any further? Petition etc to find out why such qualified and high scoring kids were instantly rejected?

[Anonymous]

Would love to. Not sure what the right steps are though. Is it through contacting FCAG? They are an organized group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Somebody commented there may be a racial thing here. Unfortunately, I am thinking I may agree. We are Indian. So are others (Asian Americans) we know who got rejected with crazy high scores. I HATE to say this but I think they are pushing white kids forward because way too many Asians in the program who are not as qualified with scores.... There is something to this, I think and needs further evaluation.

+1. We are in the same boat since last 2 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody commented there may be a racial thing here. Unfortunately, I am thinking I may agree. We are Indian. So are others (Asian Americans) we know who got rejected with crazy high scores. I HATE to say this but I think they are pushing white kids forward because way too many Asians in the program who are not as qualified with scores.... There is something to this, I think and needs further evaluation.

+1. We are in the same boat since last 2 years.

And yet, no one will answer this or do a thing on the AAP Board. I was shocked at the scores that got rejected. It's a shame because it is quite obvious what is going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody commented there may be a racial thing here. Unfortunately, I am thinking I may agree. We are Indian. So are others (Asian Americans) we know who got rejected with crazy high scores. I HATE to say this but I think they are pushing white kids forward because way too many Asians in the program who are not as qualified with scores.... There is something to this, I think and needs further evaluation.

+1. We are in the same boat since last 2 years.

And yet, no one will answer this or do a thing on the AAP Board. I was shocked at the scores that got rejected. It's a shame because it is quite obvious what is going on.

White family here, rejected with crazy high scores. I am not sure if that makes you feel better or worse.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:149 wisc:
- was it submitted in appeal only?
- how old was it?
- who performed it?
- was it performed in person?
- did the report say anything about it being unreliable?

It was submitted for appeal only. Just took it in June. A private practice in Old Town. Reputable. (We are not interested in inflated numbers. Others I know had their kids take WISC with this practice. Scores were for them were not in the same range.) Performed in person. Report was all positive. Not even a hint of red flags. The psychologist also noted to us separately that based on her experience, it is rare for a child to score this high in the first place. But even more rare for a child to get scores across the subsections.

They only accept WISC from GMU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:149 wisc:
- was it submitted in appeal only?
- how old was it?
- who performed it?
- was it performed in person?
- did the report say anything about it being unreliable?

It was submitted for appeal only. Just took it in June. A private practice in Old Town. Reputable. (We are not interested in inflated numbers. Others I know had their kids take WISC with this practice. Scores were for them were not in the same range.) Performed in person. Report was all positive. Not even a hint of red flags. The psychologist also noted to us separately that based on her experience, it is rare for a child to score this high in the first place. But even more rare for a child to get scores across the subsections.

They only accept WISC from GMU.

That’s not true. Plenty of GMU WISC have been rejected. I took from a recommended place. If they take issue with where the child takes the test, they should provide a list of the ones they consider valid.

[Anonymous]

If FCPS only took GMU scores whether officially or in practice, they may face antitrust/competition law scrutiny. Of course, how can you even analyze a potential issue when the process is completely opaque.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gifted children can benefit from tutors. They may be gifted but weren’t born with all the worlds knowledge in their brains, or know instinctively how to study. Not every gifted child excels in every subject area. If your child is just very smart they might not ever need a tutor, but gifted children aren’t just regular kids with a high IQ, they often need support.

This is very true. Our child is 2e and just started with a math tutor. He struggles with math fact memorization, but tested at the 5th grade level in math on the WISC. He just finished up 2nd grade. We sought a tutor to help with the math facts, as we were running out of ideas. Once that is mastered, the tutoring will hopefully keep him stimulated in one of his favorite subjects.

How much money do you have? Hiring a tutor for math facts is a waste of money. there are so many engaging online gaming programs that help reinforce and monitor math facts fluency.

[Anonymous]

I wonder how long until someone does a FOIA request for acceptance rates and race

[Anonymous]

Earlier poster with kid accepted with 129 WISC. It was NOT done via GMU - we went with a provider that we knew from our other child.

Oh, and our child is white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how long until someone does a FOIA request for acceptance rates and race

Based on this year's results, the FOIA request should also be rejection rates by test score and race.

[Anonymous]

holistic = when logic does not support a particular decision, we can invent magical faeries which do

[Anonymous]

What are we doing then? It is not fair for kids with such a good WISC score and not been challenged in their class?