FCPS Appeals decision are out

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Anonymous wrote:For those who were denied with high scores, it would be very interesting to hear which Center you’re zoned for.

^^This. And if you are at the base school or from a feeder school.

Haycock both base and center

Are you PP with 149 WISC?

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Anonymous wrote:So every other child I know is in Mathnasium or Kumon. The center owner said they have a TON of AAP kids. So I guess they ALL must not be gifted or advanced.

This. At least half of the kids in my child's AAP class were in Kumon, Mathnasium, RSM, AoPS, or some other tutoring system. If they're trying to guess which kids are being tutored and then keep them out of AAP, they're doing a miserable job.

Also, LOL at the PP who thought that kids who have very high IQs and are advanced are not necessarily AAP material because they aren't showing enough curiosity or enough excitement to be learning. PP, you obviously know nothing at all about gifted ed and gifted children. Gifted programs were created primarily to help the high IQ kids who were underachieving and who were falling through the cracks. It has been documented for a long time that many gifted kids disengage when they already know the material being taught and can't make themselves slog through another worksheet. Or they start having behavioral problems because everything is so incredibly slow.

The kids who the teachers view as curious and excited to learn are the kids who will thrive in any educational setting. If they're stuck in gen ed, they would create their own assignments or challenges, or they would read the entire classroom library. They really don't "need AAP." Kids who have gifted IQs genuinely need gifted programming.

Well, we we joined our younger one in kumon during this summer after she got into AAP as she bored at home and wanted to keep her occupied. Our older kid (also in AAP) started once a week math tutoring (with some homework each day) around 4th grade, which is a little ahead of his class instruction, but gives him more practice and problems to solve. In our experience tutoring isn't really required until 4th grade, but definitely helps afterwords. Also, I believe most of my older kids AAP class goes to some sort of after school enrichment and we thought he would probably fall behind if we didn't do the same . Alternatively, if parents could provide enrichment, it would be great!

Same experience here. You see more tutoring around and after 4th grade. Probably to prepare for IAAT and honors Algebra.

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Anonymous wrote:After being extremely furious about this decision based on my child’s scores, I am thinking at least the silver lining is that it would be much harder and confusing to start AAP all virtual... Who knows? The teachers may not be great etc.

I’m so sorry things didn’t work out for your child but that doesn’t mean you wish ill will towards the other students who were admitted. How petty of you.

I didn't read that into the comment at all, and I'm not sure where you're getting it from.

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Anonymous wrote:After being extremely furious about this decision based on my child’s scores, I am thinking at least the silver lining is that it would be much harder and confusing to start AAP all virtual... Who knows? The teachers may not be great etc.

I’m so sorry things didn’t work out for your child but that doesn’t mean you wish ill will towards the other students who were admitted. How petty of you.

I didn't read that into the comment at all, and I'm not sure where you're getting it from.

Different poster: if she says the silver lining to her kid not being admitted is that it would not be that good of a program virtually and the teachers may not be that great, it’s more of a sour grapes situation than wishing others ill will. Eh, the grapes were probably sour anyway = eh, the program and teachers will probably be subpar anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:After being extremely furious about this decision based on my child’s scores, I am thinking at least the silver lining is that it would be much harder and confusing to start AAP all virtual... Who knows? The teachers may not be great etc.

I’m so sorry things didn’t work out for your child but that doesn’t mean you wish ill will towards the other students who were admitted. How petty of you.

I didn't read that into the comment at all, and I'm not sure where you're getting it from.

Thank you. I am the one that posted that. The only thing I meant was that a virtual start to that (and any) program will be more difficult than in person. So it’s ok. My child can try again and maybe he will do better in an in-person situation anyways (as many kids would.) I was certainly not wishing ill on anyone. My son got placed in Level III and even for that, I mean wondering how it will look virtually since no info has been given.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After being extremely furious about this decision based on my child’s scores, I am thinking at least the silver lining is that it would be much harder and confusing to start AAP all virtual... Who knows? The teachers may not be great etc.

I’m so sorry things didn’t work out for your child but that doesn’t mean you wish ill will towards the other students who were admitted. How petty of you.

I didn't read that into the comment at all, and I'm not sure where you're getting it from.

Thank you. I am the one that posted that. The only thing I meant was that a virtual start to that (and any) program will be more difficult than in person. So it’s ok. My child can try again and maybe he will do better in an in-person situation anyways (as many kids would.) I was certainly not wishing ill on anyone. My son got placed in Level III and even for that, I mean wondering how it will look virtually since no info has been given.

I think it’s understandable for the OP of this comment to find some silver lining in a situation that she found extremely disappointing. My DS is rising 3rd grader heading into AAP. Our base is the center school so no moving schools (not that it really matters with DL) but when we picked the now defunct hybrid option, I was very concerned about him starting the new program with the potential of having no known friends and the difficulties in adjusting socially with physical distance and minimal days in school.

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Anonymous wrote:Gifted children can benefit from tutors. They may be gifted but weren’t born with all the worlds knowledge in their brains, or know instinctively how to study. Not every gifted child excels in every subject area. If your child is just very smart they might not ever need a tutor, but gifted children aren’t just regular kids with a high IQ, they often need support.

This is very true. Our child is 2e and just started with a math tutor. He struggles with math fact memorization, but tested at the 5th grade level in math on the WISC. He just finished up 2nd grade. We sought a tutor to help with the math facts, as we were running out of ideas. Once that is mastered, the tutoring will hopefully keep him stimulated in one of his favorite subjects.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gifted children can benefit from tutors. They may be gifted but weren’t born with all the worlds knowledge in their brains, or know instinctively how to study. Not every gifted child excels in every subject area. If your child is just very smart they might not ever need a tutor, but gifted children aren’t just regular kids with a high IQ, they often need support.

This is very true. Our child is 2e and just started with a math tutor. He struggles with math fact memorization, but tested at the 5th grade level in math on the WISC. He just finished up 2nd grade. We sought a tutor to help with the math facts, as we were running out of ideas. Once that is mastered, the tutoring will hopefully keep him stimulated in one of his favorite subjects.

Stop gaming the system and prepping all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gifted children can benefit from tutors. They may be gifted but weren’t born with all the worlds knowledge in their brains, or know instinctively how to study. Not every gifted child excels in every subject area. If your child is just very smart they might not ever need a tutor, but gifted children aren’t just regular kids with a high IQ, they often need support.

This is very true. Our child is 2e and just started with a math tutor. He struggles with math fact memorization, but tested at the 5th grade level in math on the WISC. He just finished up 2nd grade. We sought a tutor to help with the math facts, as we were running out of ideas. Once that is mastered, the tutoring will hopefully keep him stimulated in one of his favorite subjects.

Stop gaming the system and prepping all the time.

Ok, AAP police. Wow. Some people come on here to literally put down 7 and 8 year olds. I thought the point of this board was for parents to share info and help each other out, not slam other parents and their kids. You have an awful lot of time on your hands to come on just to be so rude. Wake up. What planet are you living in? Please contact all the Mathnasiums, Kumons, Russian School of Mathematics, Sylvan Learning etc. and tell them they are not allowed to take anyone who will apply for AAP. I guess the AAP board needs to eliminate anyone who takes additional enrichment. And let’s not forget te kids who play instruments. Gifted kids should automatically know how to play every instrument. They should also not be coached for athletics. They should automatically be star athletes. Everyone, please remove your kids from any form of extra-curriculars, enrichment etc that will help them improve academically or otherwise. . If your child is truly gifted, they don’t need any of this. They are born with super powers and should also be able to fly a plane by simply watching a You-tube video. If they can’t, they are not gifted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gifted children can benefit from tutors. They may be gifted but weren’t born with all the worlds knowledge in their brains, or know instinctively how to study. Not every gifted child excels in every subject area. If your child is just very smart they might not ever need a tutor, but gifted children aren’t just regular kids with a high IQ, they often need support.

This is very true. Our child is 2e and just started with a math tutor. He struggles with math fact memorization, but tested at the 5th grade level in math on the WISC. He just finished up 2nd grade. We sought a tutor to help with the math facts, as we were running out of ideas. Once that is mastered, the tutoring will hopefully keep him stimulated in one of his favorite subjects.

Stop gaming the system and prepping all the time.

Ok, AAP police. Wow. Some people come on here to literally put down 7 and 8 year olds. I thought the point of this board was for parents to share info and help each other out, not slam other parents and their kids. You have an awful lot of time on your hands to come on just to be so rude. Wake up. What planet are you living in? Please contact all the Mathnasiums, Kumons, Russian School of Mathematics, Sylvan Learning etc. and tell them they are not allowed to take anyone who will apply for AAP. I guess the AAP board needs to eliminate anyone who takes additional enrichment. And let’s not forget te kids who play instruments. Gifted kids should automatically know how to play every instrument. They should also not be coached for athletics. They should automatically be star athletes. Everyone, please remove your kids from any form of extra-curriculars, enrichment etc that will help them improve academically or otherwise. . If your child is truly gifted, they don’t need any of this. They are born with super powers and should also be able to fly a plane by simply watching a You-tube video. If they can’t, they are not gifted.

lol.. true. People get carried away quite a bit here. If a kid can benefit from the enrichment, but parents still deny it, then its their choice. If the kid not interested or not capable, but parents push it down their throats, then its bad. However, I don't think there is anything wrong with enrichment (either at home or external) as long as kids are able to handle it well.

In our case, if we leave the kids alone, they do nothing but watch electronics all the time. We know they can easily handle above the grade instruction and we try to provide them in various ways. May be some elementary school kids pick up calculus and figure out on their own, but most of them need sort of push from parents do improve themselves. Though I did not like it during school, I am now grateful that my parents pushed me hard on education early on and made sure that I wasn't being drifted away (I had my fair share of shenanigans). I am willing to do the same with my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:my daughter also had WISC 142, great LOR from coach added and really good work samples. Also didn't get in. We plan to switch to Potomac. I am very interested in petition or whatever else we can do. Get it going!

Yes, let's get the petition going. We need to force the committee to transparent about their decision-making process, instead of hiding behind the "holistic" label.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:my daughter also had WISC 142, great LOR from coach added and really good work samples. Also didn't get in. We plan to switch to Potomac. I am very interested in petition or whatever else we can do. Get it going!

Yes, let's get the petition going. We need to force the committee to transparent about their decision-making process, instead of hiding behind the "holistic" label.

THIS. How do we start this?

[Anonymous]

Is their any petition been initiated? Please share the link if any.

[Anonymous]

Please let me know the process. Where can we write for reevaluation, principal placement and will sign the petition. I suspect the appeal files have not even been properly reviewed this year.

[Anonymous]

What exactly is principal placement? Our school is a center school and they do not have anything called PP. It appears decisions made by FCPS Appeal committee are final.