Collin Gosselin: way harsh?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think Jon is Dad of the year. However I think Kate was a controlling and emotionally abusive partner and an abusive parent. It isn't uncommon for a spouse who is abused to become passive and let the abusive spouse dominate.

Does the abused spouse also become an unemployed loser who'd rather party than help take care of his kids? In this case I'm not sure if it was the chicken or the egg.

as opposed to what, the reality tv show loser who wh*res out her kids to get expensive clothes and dinners at Nobu?

Kate gets pilloried all the time. Even here yet people are quick to defend Jon. Why? He seems like a pretty crap dad. Why not shine the same light on him? He deserves it as much as she does.

Did Jon dump a 12 year old in an institution for years and visit him twice?

Without knowing the full story, how can we judge? Nobody knows what really happened. But we do know 6 kids want nothing to do with Jon.

Link?

Really? Just google it yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When his dad sued for custody, his mother didn’t even show up to the hearing. Imagine not showing up to fight for your own child. Disgusting. He’s better off without her in his life.

Are you the same person repeating this over and over again?

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He's talking about joining the marines. If he's able to join the marines it means he doesn't have a diagnosis (beyond mild Autism or ADHD).

Him seemingly having no problems in his late teens says to me that there was nothing that justified his years spent in an institution. Kids do not fix themselves when they go through puberty. If he was bad enough to be admitted for 2 years (very very rare) he is somehow magically healthy and functional as a 18 year old? Yea, sure.

Agreed, he was dumped.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think Jon is Dad of the year. However I think Kate was a controlling and emotionally abusive partner and an abusive parent. It isn't uncommon for a spouse who is abused to become passive and let the abusive spouse dominate.

Does the abused spouse also become an unemployed loser who'd rather party than help take care of his kids? In this case I'm not sure if it was the chicken or the egg.

as opposed to what, the reality tv show loser who wh*res out her kids to get expensive clothes and dinners at Nobu?

Kate gets pilloried all the time. Even here yet people are quick to defend Jon. Why? He seems like a pretty crap dad. Why not shine the same light on him? He deserves it as much as she does.

Did Jon dump a 12 year old in an institution for years and visit him twice?

Without knowing the full story, how can we judge? Nobody knows what really happened. But we do know 6 kids want nothing to do with Jon.

Link?

Really? Just google it yourself.

So that's a no.

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Anonymous wrote:When his dad sued for custody, his mother didn’t even show up to the hearing. Imagine not showing up to fight for your own child. Disgusting. He’s better off without her in his life.

Are you the same person repeating this over and over again?

I haven't posted on this thread before.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think Jon is Dad of the year. However I think Kate was a controlling and emotionally abusive partner and an abusive parent. It isn't uncommon for a spouse who is abused to become passive and let the abusive spouse dominate.

Does the abused spouse also become an unemployed loser who'd rather party than help take care of his kids? In this case I'm not sure if it was the chicken or the egg.

as opposed to what, the reality tv show loser who wh*res out her kids to get expensive clothes and dinners at Nobu?

Kate gets pilloried all the time. Even here yet people are quick to defend Jon. Why? He seems like a pretty crap dad. Why not shine the same light on him? He deserves it as much as she does.

Did Jon dump a 12 year old in an institution for years and visit him twice?

Without knowing the full story, how can we judge? Nobody knows what really happened. But we do know 6 kids want nothing to do with Jon.

Link?

Really? Just google it yourself.

So that's a no.

Ok. Jon whining about alienation means he has a great relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:He's talking about joining the marines. If he's able to join the marines it means he doesn't have a diagnosis (beyond mild Autism or ADHD).

Him seemingly having no problems in his late teens says to me that there was nothing that justified his years spent in an institution. Kids do not fix themselves when they go through puberty. If he was bad enough to be admitted for 2 years (very very rare) he is somehow magically healthy and functional as a 18 year old? Yea, sure.

Agreed, he was dumped.

Talking about the marines does not equal joining the marines.

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Anonymous wrote:He's talking about joining the marines. If he's able to join the marines it means he doesn't have a diagnosis (beyond mild Autism or ADHD).

Him seemingly having no problems in his late teens says to me that there was nothing that justified his years spent in an institution. Kids do not fix themselves when they go through puberty. If he was bad enough to be admitted for 2 years (very very rare) he is somehow magically healthy and functional as a 18 year old? Yea, sure.

Agreed, he was dumped.

100%, but many young people talk about joining the marines. Few actually Enlist and make it through boot camp. Time will tell

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Anonymous wrote:When his dad sued for custody, his mother didn’t even show up to the hearing. Imagine not showing up to fight for your own child. Disgusting. He’s better off without her in his life.

Maybe she felt she had to protect her other kids and it was safer for everyone if he wasn't in the home. Sometimes hard choices need to be made.

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Anonymous wrote:When his dad sued for custody, his mother didn’t even show up to the hearing. Imagine not showing up to fight for your own child. Disgusting. He’s better off without her in his life.

Maybe she felt she had to protect her other kids and it was safer for everyone if he wasn't in the home. Sometimes hard choices need to be made.

So if she was so concerned with safety and felt he was such a danger...why didn't she show up to the custody hearing to make that known? The fact that she didn't show up and just let Jon have him makes it pretty clear she just wanted him off her hands, it wasn't about safety.

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Anonymous wrote:When his dad sued for custody, his mother didn’t even show up to the hearing. Imagine not showing up to fight for your own child. Disgusting. He’s better off without her in his life.

Maybe she felt she had to protect her other kids and it was safer for everyone if he wasn't in the home. Sometimes hard choices need to be made.

So if she was so concerned with safety and felt he was such a danger...why didn't she show up to the custody hearing to make that known? The fact that she didn't show up and just let Jon have him makes it pretty clear she just wanted him off her hands, it wasn't about safety.

You have no way of knowing what the reasons are. It's all speculation. But why don't any of Collin's other siblings speak to him? That's a bit weird, no?

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Anonymous wrote:When his dad sued for custody, his mother didn’t even show up to the hearing. Imagine not showing up to fight for your own child. Disgusting. He’s better off without her in his life.

Maybe she felt she had to protect her other kids and it was safer for everyone if he wasn't in the home. Sometimes hard choices need to be made.

So if she was so concerned with safety and felt he was such a danger...why didn't she show up to the custody hearing to make that known? The fact that she didn't show up and just let Jon have him makes it pretty clear she just wanted him off her hands, it wasn't about safety.

You have no way of knowing what the reasons are. It's all speculation. But why don't any of Collin's other siblings speak to him? That's a bit weird, no?

Parental alienation. It’s a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:When his dad sued for custody, his mother didn’t even show up to the hearing. Imagine not showing up to fight for your own child. Disgusting. He’s better off without her in his life.

Maybe she felt she had to protect her other kids and it was safer for everyone if he wasn't in the home. Sometimes hard choices need to be made.

So if she was so concerned with safety and felt he was such a danger...why didn't she show up to the custody hearing to make that known? The fact that she didn't show up and just let Jon have him makes it pretty clear she just wanted him off her hands, it wasn't about safety.

You have no way of knowing what the reasons are. It's all speculation. But why don't any of Collin's other siblings speak to him? That's a bit weird, no?

Parental alienation. It’s a thing.

A convenient explanation that lets Jon completely off the hook.

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Anonymous wrote:He's talking about joining the marines. If he's able to join the marines it means he doesn't have a diagnosis (beyond mild Autism or ADHD).

Him seemingly having no problems in his late teens says to me that there was nothing that justified his years spent in an institution. Kids do not fix themselves when they go through puberty. If he was bad enough to be admitted for 2 years (very very rare) he is somehow magically healthy and functional as a 18 year old? Yea, sure.

Agreed, he was dumped.

Meh he is a classic case of anxious attachment . It was inevitable with so many babies and an authoritative mother.
Kate really is a bad mother. The kids would have benefitted from having both parents equally involved since she was so high strung and authoritative but she couldn’t do that for her kids and did alienate their father.
She even knew she had problems and knew there was help available but choose not to get it.
Jon was an abused spouse and he made choices and decisions that reflected what happens when someone is abused.

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Anonymous wrote:When his dad sued for custody, his mother didn’t even show up to the hearing. Imagine not showing up to fight for your own child. Disgusting. He’s better off without her in his life.

Maybe she felt she had to protect her other kids and it was safer for everyone if he wasn't in the home. Sometimes hard choices need to be made.

So if she was so concerned with safety and felt he was such a danger...why didn't she show up to the custody hearing to make that known? The fact that she didn't show up and just let Jon have him makes it pretty clear she just wanted him off her hands, it wasn't about safety.

You have no way of knowing what the reasons are. It's all speculation. But why don't any of Collin's other siblings speak to him? That's a bit weird, no?

Parental alienation. It’s a thing.

A convenient explanation that lets Jon completely off the hook.

Maybe...but Kate has a history of alienating people and being toxic. The woman who doesn't speak to her parents or any of her four siblings, alienated her so-called best friends (Beth and Bob)...Jodi and Kevin...the dozens of friends and family members that conveniently disappeared over the years...you don't think THIS woman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bNjC3QpXWI ...or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVBOcQ_gFiw isn't capable of parental alienation? yea ok