Maryland Recovery Plan for Education has been posted

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We will have distance learning in the fall as well. It would be very difficult to implement the guidelines in the plan effectively. Much easier to continue distance learning and use the summer to make that better

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Anonymous wrote:Sooner or later the majority of population will be exposed, most probably before vaccine. As long as people are not dying because of overwhelmed hospitals like in Italy, there is little to gain, but a lot to lose by shutting down everything, schools included.

This. Moreover I'm sure better treatment alternatives will be there by fall.

I think that's basically inevitable, just because there will be much more knowledge of the disease, and experience with treatments, by fall.

Certainly, we will be better at treating this in the fall. But the fall also brings cold & flu season and increases all cause mortality. The ICUs start to fill up with respiratory diseases unrelated to the current pandemic. The 1918 flu pandemic had a first wave in the spring but then the big deadly wave in the following fall/winter. It's not just the primary infectious disease but also the secondary infections (pneumonia) that will land people in the hospital.

I wish schools would try to open early. Get the kids in 'classrooms' in outdoor tents and pavilions in parks and stadiums in July. By the time we get to November, we will nearly certainly be shut down again. The second wave is likely to be much worse than the first. Yea yea, start to open up now, but let's please prepare for the very predictable second wave.

I hope you're kidding with this. Are you signing up to teach and/or learn outside in the July heat? I would love to know the details of this plan. How would you handle bathroom needs/storms/kids & teachers with allergies related to being outside/kids & teachers allergic to bees/where materials would be stored/transportation/kids & teachers unable to stay outside in the heat due to health issues/food service? I could go on.

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Anonymous wrote:We will have distance learning in the fall as well. It would be very difficult to implement the guidelines in the plan effectively. Much easier to continue distance learning and use the summer to make that better

The basic problem with distance learning is that it's distance learning.

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This is just food for thought to all the people griping at teachers for their concerns about opening schools back up..... What if more teachers continue remote/distance learning after Covid-19 is over. Maybe preferring to work at their own pace from home, not having to travel, and not being respected. Recognizing they can instruct online as long any warm body is physically present in the classroom. School districts could offer a little less money to the teachers' that opt for that and pay use that to employ the warm bodies to babysit your kids. Please be respectful, appreciative and thoughtful to your children's teachers now, in the future and always. Before we lose more Good, Caring, and Hard-working ones.

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The curve has not been flattened yet. Decisions are not being made based on what you think is more important or on your opinion. Decisions are being made based on what is the safest possible activity. Schools are one of the least safest activities. You can say they are important all you want, but that doesn't make them safe to open as they existed before. The word essential is not going to re-open schools as they were on March 1st.

The curve has been flattened, decisions are not being made based on what is the safest possible activity, and there is no evidence that schools are one of the least safe activities.

So yes it's been flattened (not growing exponentially anymore) -- but it's not actually FLAT much less declining. rate of new cases is still growing in MoCo and in Maryland more broadly, as it is nationally (when you remove NY from picture):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/06/opinion/coronavirus-deaths-statistics.html

The idea was not to decline the curve. That would be great, but evidently as a country we're incapable of doing that.

Exactly. Flattening the curve means that the same number of people get sick, just over a longer period of time so that the health system can handle
It.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/flatten-curve-coronavirus.html

omg my heard hurts, you're not getting it. it's not flat yet, it's still climbing! difference between verb (flattening) and noun (flat). as a pp said, it's "flattening" (increasing at a lower rate than it was, so closer to a horizontal line than a vertical one) as in but it's not yet there. it's not flat, not in maryland, and esp not in moco.

NP. Look at the site coronavirus.maryland.gov. Look at the hospitalization chart. You will see how it is flat for some time now. Look at the daily death rate chart. You will see that is actually decreasing.

Omg that’s not flattening the curve! I just can’t with some if you.

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Let me guess. You must be an ES math teacher

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The curve has not been flattened yet. Decisions are not being made based on what you think is more important or on your opinion. Decisions are being made based on what is the safest possible activity. Schools are one of the least safest activities. You can say they are important all you want, but that doesn't make them safe to open as they existed before. The word essential is not going to re-open schools as they were on March 1st.

The curve has been flattened, decisions are not being made based on what is the safest possible activity, and there is no evidence that schools are one of the least safe activities.

So yes it's been flattened (not growing exponentially anymore) -- but it's not actually FLAT much less declining. rate of new cases is still growing in MoCo and in Maryland more broadly, as it is nationally (when you remove NY from picture):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/06/opinion/coronavirus-deaths-statistics.html

The idea was not to decline the curve. That would be great, but evidently as a country we're incapable of doing that.

Exactly. Flattening the curve means that the same number of people get sick, just over a longer period of time so that the health system can handle
It.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/flatten-curve-coronavirus.html

omg my heard hurts, you're not getting it. it's not flat yet, it's still climbing! difference between verb (flattening) and noun (flat). as a pp said, it's "flattening" (increasing at a lower rate than it was, so closer to a horizontal line than a vertical one) as in but it's not yet there. it's not flat, not in maryland, and esp not in moco.

NP. Look at the site coronavirus.maryland.gov. Look at the hospitalization chart. You will see how it is flat for some time now. Look at the daily death rate chart. You will see that is actually decreasing.

Omg that’s not flattening the curve! I just can’t with some if you.

OMG! Can you interpret a basic graph? Total hospitalization on the y-axis, time on the x-axis. Total hospitalization stays the same. That is flattening the curve by definition.
Daily rate on the y-axis, time on the x-axis. Envelope of the daily rate goes down. That is even better.

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Daily death rate

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Anonymous wrote:This is just food for thought to all the people griping at teachers for their concerns about opening schools back up..... What if more teachers continue remote/distance learning after Covid-19 is over. Maybe preferring to work at their own pace from home, not having to travel, and not being respected. Recognizing they can instruct online as long any warm body is physically present in the classroom. School districts could offer a little less money to the teachers' that opt for that and pay use that to employ the warm bodies to babysit your kids. Please be respectful, appreciative and thoughtful to your children's teachers now, in the future and always. Before we lose more Good, Caring, and Hard-working ones.

You truly make no sense. If they prefer teaching online and are unwilling to go in the classroom then they will lose their jobs when we are back to normal.

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The curve has not been flattened yet. Decisions are not being made based on what you think is more important or on your opinion. Decisions are being made based on what is the safest possible activity. Schools are one of the least safest activities. You can say they are important all you want, but that doesn't make them safe to open as they existed before. The word essential is not going to re-open schools as they were on March 1st.

The curve has been flattened, decisions are not being made based on what is the safest possible activity, and there is no evidence that schools are one of the least safe activities.

So yes it's been flattened (not growing exponentially anymore) -- but it's not actually FLAT much less declining. rate of new cases is still growing in MoCo and in Maryland more broadly, as it is nationally (when you remove NY from picture):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/06/opinion/coronavirus-deaths-statistics.html

The idea was not to decline the curve. That would be great, but evidently as a country we're incapable of doing that.

Exactly. Flattening the curve means that the same number of people get sick, just over a longer period of time so that the health system can handle
It.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/flatten-curve-coronavirus.html

omg my heard hurts, you're not getting it. it's not flat yet, it's still climbing! difference between verb (flattening) and noun (flat). as a pp said, it's "flattening" (increasing at a lower rate than it was, so closer to a horizontal line than a vertical one) as in but it's not yet there. it's not flat, not in maryland, and esp not in moco.

NP. Look at the site coronavirus.maryland.gov. Look at the hospitalization chart. You will see how it is flat for some time now. Look at the daily death rate chart. You will see that is actually decreasing.

Omg that’s not flattening the curve! I just can’t with some if you.

DP - that absolutely is flattening the curve. You do not know what you are taking about.

[Anonymous]

I think some people here are more interested in fattening the curve instead of flattening it. If we don’t flatten it we will have up to 2 million deaths. This is something we all need to suffer with to prevent.

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Anonymous wrote:I think some people here are more interested in fattening the curve instead of flattening it. If we don’t flatten it we will have up to 2 million deaths. This is something we all need to suffer with to prevent.

THE CURVE HAS BEEN FLATTENED.

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Anonymous wrote:I think some people here are more interested in fattening the curve instead of flattening it. If we don’t flatten it we will have up to 2 million deaths. This is something we all need to suffer with to prevent.

THE CURVE HAS BEEN FLATTENED.

I am choosing the believe that the PP you responded to us just a troll.

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The curve has not been flattened yet. Decisions are not being made based on what you think is more important or on your opinion. Decisions are being made based on what is the safest possible activity. Schools are one of the least safest activities. You can say they are important all you want, but that doesn't make them safe to open as they existed before. The word essential is not going to re-open schools as they were on March 1st.

The curve has been flattened, decisions are not being made based on what is the safest possible activity, and there is no evidence that schools are one of the least safe activities.

So yes it's been flattened (not growing exponentially anymore) -- but it's not actually FLAT much less declining. rate of new cases is still growing in MoCo and in Maryland more broadly, as it is nationally (when you remove NY from picture):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/06/opinion/coronavirus-deaths-statistics.html

The idea was not to decline the curve. That would be great, but evidently as a country we're incapable of doing that.

Exactly. Flattening the curve means that the same number of people get sick, just over a longer period of time so that the health system can handle
It.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/flatten-curve-coronavirus.html

omg my heard hurts, you're not getting it. it's not flat yet, it's still climbing! difference between verb (flattening) and noun (flat). as a pp said, it's "flattening" (increasing at a lower rate than it was, so closer to a horizontal line than a vertical one) as in but it's not yet there. it's not flat, not in maryland, and esp not in moco.

It has flattened in MD and now deaths, hospitalizations, and even new cases are approximately the same each day, with some variation. It’s not an expontential growth. It is painful that you don’t understand how this works.

pp didn't say it was exponential now. no one has.

The whole point of flattening the curve is to get off of exponential growth. We are now at constant growth (about the same amount each day). That is flattening the curve.

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The curve has not been flattened yet. Decisions are not being made based on what you think is more important or on your opinion. Decisions are being made based on what is the safest possible activity. Schools are one of the least safest activities. You can say they are important all you want, but that doesn't make them safe to open as they existed before. The word essential is not going to re-open schools as they were on March 1st.

The curve has been flattened, decisions are not being made based on what is the safest possible activity, and there is no evidence that schools are one of the least safe activities.

So yes it's been flattened (not growing exponentially anymore) -- but it's not actually FLAT much less declining. rate of new cases is still growing in MoCo and in Maryland more broadly, as it is nationally (when you remove NY from picture):

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/06/opinion/coronavirus-deaths-statistics.html

The idea was not to decline the curve. That would be great, but evidently as a country we're incapable of doing that.

Exactly. Flattening the curve means that the same number of people get sick, just over a longer period of time so that the health system can handle
It.

https://www.nytimes.com/article/flatten-curve-coronavirus.html

omg my heard hurts, you're not getting it. it's not flat yet, it's still climbing! difference between verb (flattening) and noun (flat). as a pp said, it's "flattening" (increasing at a lower rate than it was, so closer to a horizontal line than a vertical one) as in but it's not yet there. it's not flat, not in maryland, and esp not in moco.

NP. Look at the site coronavirus.maryland.gov. Look at the hospitalization chart. You will see how it is flat for some time now. Look at the daily death rate chart. You will see that is actually decreasing.

Omg that’s not flattening the curve! I just can’t with some if you.

OMG! Can you interpret a basic graph? Total hospitalization on the y-axis, time on the x-axis. Total hospitalization stays the same. That is flattening the curve by definition.
Daily rate on the y-axis, time on the x-axis. Envelope of the daily rate goes down. That is even better.

Sorry I posted above you and you are correct. I meant to respond to the poster above saying “you aren’t getting it.”

Yes absolutely flattening/decreasing now.