Alexandria Bike Lobby wins again

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Anonymous wrote:Why should electric motorcycles be allowed on bike lanes? They have two wheels. What's the problem?

Nobody is saying that electric motorcycles should be allowed in bike lanes.

Actually that’s a reasonable idea. If a bike with an electric motor is ok in a bike lane, why not a motorcycle? It’s just another type of bike. It’s just bigger, that’s all. Still has two wheels.

What’s the problem?

If a car is ok on an interstate highway, why not a riding lawnmower? it's just another type of motor vehicle. It's just smaller, that's all. Still has four wheels.

What's the problem?

That’s a ridiculous analogy.

A riding mower isn’t fast enough to keep up with interstate traffic. It’s a hazard.

But an electric motorcycle can absolutely be ridden slowly enough to match bicycle’s speeds. It would present no danger whatsoever.



The only reason it would be frowned upon is the arrogance of cyclists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should electric motorcycles be allowed on bike lanes? They have two wheels. What's the problem?

Nobody is saying that electric motorcycles should be allowed in bike lanes.

Actually that’s a reasonable idea. If a bike with an electric motor is ok in a bike lane, why not a motorcycle? It’s just another type of bike. It’s just bigger, that’s all. Still has two wheels.


What’s the problem?

If I can drive a sedan down a residential street then why can't I drive an oversized extreme dump truck there too?

Are we really able to make meaningful distinctions based on size and power? Yes. The answer is clearly yes. PP, you are ridiculous.

Except we’re not talking about dump trucks.

We’re talking about a motorcycle, which occupies a physical space about 10% larger than an ordinary mountain bike. Hardly the same thing as a oversized dump truck.

So why would it be inappropriate for a bike lane? Its got two wheels like a bike. It’s the same size as a bike. It’s got an electric motor like a bike. It carries one rider, like a bike.

So again, why not?


Because “just because” isn’t good enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should electric motorcycles be allowed on bike lanes? They have two wheels. What's the problem?

Nobody is saying that electric motorcycles should be allowed in bike lanes.

Actually that’s a reasonable idea. If a bike with an electric motor is ok in a bike lane, why not a motorcycle? It’s just another type of bike. It’s just bigger, that’s all. Still has two wheels.

What’s the problem?

If a car is ok on an interstate highway, why not a riding lawnmower? it's just another type of motor vehicle. It's just smaller, that's all. Still has four wheels.

What's the problem?

That’s a ridiculous analogy.

A riding mower isn’t fast enough to keep up with interstate traffic. It’s a hazard.

But an electric motorcycle can absolutely be ridden slowly enough to match bicycle’s speeds. It would present no danger whatsoever.

The only reason it would be frowned upon is the arrogance of cyclists.

Both are inappropriate due to their speed. This isn't complicated. Save the slippery slope for your sled.

[Anonymous]

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Regardless, staff said two westbound lanes were needed. It was stated publicly and several hundred people heard it.

The FD said they would “consider Alternative 3” which was a reversal of their prior statement. They also stated they were given little inclusion in the Complete Streets guidelines. Hopefully a FOIA will flesh out why their position changed. City staff stated the hospital wanted two westbound lanes. For some reason, staff didn’t want it include that in the council packet, they stated it during a public meeting.

The TPB vote would have been 4-3 for for four lanes with a full vote. Staff was not legally obligated to present Alternative 1.

And there is a difference between anonymous comment and union, police and hospital employees being told they are not permitted to speak on the issue. Thankfully the NY FD union just spoke out publicly.

Probably because they were terrified of retaliation by the dreaded, all-powerful Bicycle Lobby.

https://twitter.com/bicyclelobby

Is there a way the bike lobby use its might to hire a decent superintendent of schools? With all their muscle they may be the only group able to improve the schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should electric motorcycles be allowed on bike lanes? They have two wheels. What's the problem?

Nobody is saying that electric motorcycles should be allowed in bike lanes.

Actually that’s a reasonable idea. If a bike with an electric motor is ok in a bike lane, why not a motorcycle? It’s just another type of bike. It’s just bigger, that’s all. Still has two wheels.

What’s the problem?

If a car is ok on an interstate highway, why not a riding lawnmower? it's just another type of motor vehicle. It's just smaller, that's all. Still has four wheels.

What's the problem?

That’s a ridiculous analogy.

A riding mower isn’t fast enough to keep up with interstate traffic. It’s a hazard.

But an electric motorcycle can absolutely be ridden slowly enough to match bicycle’s speeds. It would present no danger whatsoever.

The only reason it would be frowned upon is the arrogance of cyclists.

Both are inappropriate due to their speed. This isn't complicated. Save the slippery slope for your sled.

What speed? A motorcycle can be ridden at bicycle speeds all day long.

We have speed limits. People are expected to follow them. I own a car that is capable of over 170mph. But I don’t drive over 25 in my neighborhood, because that’s the speed limit. Same with electric motorcycles in bike lanes.

Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not logical or fair.

[Anonymous]

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What speed? A motorcycle can be ridden at bicycle speeds all day long.

We have speed limits. People are expected to follow them. I own a car that is capable of over 170mph. But I don’t drive over 25 in my neighborhood, because that’s the speed limit. Same with electric motorcycles in bike lanes.

Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not logical or fair.

You don't say.

[Anonymous]

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What speed? A motorcycle can be ridden at bicycle speeds all day long.

We have speed limits. People are expected to follow them. I own a car that is capable of over 170mph. But I don’t drive over 25 in my neighborhood, because that’s the speed limit. Same with electric motorcycles in bike lanes.

Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not logical or fair.

You don't say.

Actually I do say.

Are you like seven years old or something?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should electric motorcycles be allowed on bike lanes? They have two wheels. What's the problem?

Nobody is saying that electric motorcycles should be allowed in bike lanes.

Actually that’s a reasonable idea. If a bike with an electric motor is ok in a bike lane, why not a motorcycle? It’s just another type of bike. It’s just bigger, that’s all. Still has two wheels.


What’s the problem?

If I can drive a sedan down a residential street then why can't I drive an oversized extreme dump truck there too?

Are we really able to make meaningful distinctions based on size and power? Yes. The answer is clearly yes. PP, you are ridiculous.

Um you can drive extreme sized dump trucks down residential roads. 18 wheelers too. One passed my house this evening and it’s not an uncommon occurrence.

[Anonymous]

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What speed? A motorcycle can be ridden at bicycle speeds all day long.

We have speed limits. People are expected to follow them. I own a car that is capable of over 170mph. But I don’t drive over 25 in my neighborhood, because that’s the speed limit. Same with electric motorcycles in bike lanes.

Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not logical or fair.

You don't say.

Actually I do say.

Are you like seven years old or something?

We have speed limits that drivers routinely disregard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
What speed? A motorcycle can be ridden at bicycle speeds all day long.

We have speed limits. People are expected to follow them. I own a car that is capable of over 170mph. But I don’t drive over 25 in my neighborhood, because that’s the speed limit. Same with electric motorcycles in bike lanes.

Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s not logical or fair.

You don't say.

Actually I do say.

Are you like seven years old or something?

We have speed limits that drivers routinely disregard.

Then they should be ticketed and fined.


Do you also blame spoons and forks for making people fat?

[Anonymous]

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Then they should be ticketed and fined.

Do you also blame spoons and forks for making people fat?

This is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever encountered on DCUM, and that's saying something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If cyclists would simply do THREE things, I would happily cede them a dedicated lane everywhere:

1) stop at red lights and wait until green to proceed, just like cars do.

2) stop at stop signs.

3) don’t shoal through traffic (that’s where traffic is temporarily caught behind a slow biker, gets an opportunity to pass the biker, does so, and then at the next red light, the biker weaves through the line of stopped cars to the front of the line, and runs the red light, forcing everyone formerly trapped behind them to be trapped yet again, over and over. This has the effect of slowing ALL traffic on the road down to the speed of the biker.)

If they’d quit doing those three things, people would stop hating them.

Honk at them. Every time. Scares the crap out of them but gets their attention.

People almost hit you but get so mad when you touch their Subarus.