UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

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I felt poorly for this family yesterday. Then I see he tried to lay this at the feet of President Obama. Take some responsibility for the fact that your adult son went to N. Korea. Screw you and your entitled family. Looks like it couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch.

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Very hostile pp. Are you happy this kid has a neurological injury? If you can't say something nice ...don't say it.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the parents.

Me too; now their son is a vegetable. It's unfortunate their son made such poor choices.

Did Bergdahl make a poor choice, leaving his platoon into the arms of terrorists in Afghanistan?

Yes, he did. Sorry, what's the point? They both made poor choices. They both suffered consequences. Bergdahl is on trial. Duh.

Obama made Bergdahl seem a freaking national hero. For deserting his post and siding with the enemy. Duh.

And they got five terrorists back as part of the deal.

Berg who is being court-martialed despite a diagnosis of mental illness. Not sure what your definition of national hero might be.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you making this a partisan issue? I am a Democrat who has no love for N Korea.

Re-read this thread.

DP. You can't honestly believe that non-hypocritical conservatives also think Otto should have never been in NK. Requiring someone to think and take personal responsibility does not equate to lack of sympathy for his current medical condition. However, you must agree that it could have all beeen avoided.

I think that liberals are blaming Otto for what happened because he's a white 'frat boy'. He was on a legal and legitimate tour.

When in Rome, do as the Romans. If the law says you don't remove political signs, you don't remove political signs.

In the end, this is what matters. When you are in another country, you follow their laws. If you don't like it, don't go. Your rights do not extend beyond US borders and every single country page on the State Department website has warned for years that local laws apply in other countries and if you break them, they can't help you. It doesn't matter if you think the law is stupid or wrong. I'm not even convinced that going to NK was the fatal mistake here--thousands of people have gone there as tourists, behaved themselves, and come back fine. If you are not prepared to toe the line exactly, you should not go. Warmbier didn't deserve the severity of these consequences but I 100% believe he swiped that sign because it sounds exactly like what a dumb college kid would do in an American hotel if he liked the bathrobe or the design on the matchbook covers or something. He should have known better. It's not like the North Koreans are secretive about how seriously they take this stuff and how draconian they can be. Bad choice, disproportionately bad consequences. I'm sorry for him, but this is not our government's responsibility.

It does matter if we 'like' their laws when their laws are not laws. You understand this man is starving his own people?

OK Captain Zobvious, what should we do? Start a ground war that will result in the deaths of millions of people on the Korean Peninsula?

Ground wars are obsolete.

Tell that to the infantry in Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the parents.

Me too; now their son is a vegetable. It's unfortunate their son made such poor choices.

Did Bergdahl make a poor choice, leaving his platoon into the arms of terrorists in Afghanistan?

Yes, he did. Sorry, what's the point? They both made poor choices. They both suffered consequences. Bergdahl is on trial. Duh.

Obama made Bergdahl seem a freaking national hero. For deserting his post and siding with the enemy. Duh.

And they got five terrorists back as part of the deal.

So you're saying that Otto is like Bergdahl? OK, whatever you say.

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Anonymous wrote:More like we was severely beaten, Suffered a traumatic Brain injury and they have been covering it up for that last year.

I love these lefties who think he will miraculously recover.

We believe in science, not miracles.

except when science says there are only TWO sexes.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you making this a partisan issue? I am a Democrat who has no love for N Korea.

Re-read this thread.

DP. You can't honestly believe that non-hypocritical conservatives also think Otto should have never been in NK. Requiring someone to think and take personal responsibility does not equate to lack of sympathy for his current medical condition. However, you must agree that it could have all beeen avoided.

I think that liberals are blaming Otto for what happened because he's a white 'frat boy'. He was on a legal and legitimate tour.

When in Rome, do as the Romans. If the law says you don't remove political signs, you don't remove political signs.

In the end, this is what matters. When you are in another country, you follow their laws. If you don't like it, don't go. Your rights do not extend beyond US borders and every single country page on the State Department website has warned for years that local laws apply in other countries and if you break them, they can't help you. It doesn't matter if you think the law is stupid or wrong. I'm not even convinced that going to NK was the fatal mistake here--thousands of people have gone there as tourists, behaved themselves, and come back fine. If you are not prepared to toe the line exactly, you should not go. Warmbier didn't deserve the severity of these consequences but I 100% believe he swiped that sign because it sounds exactly like what a dumb college kid would do in an American hotel if he liked the bathrobe or the design on the matchbook covers or something. He should have known better. It's not like the North Koreans are secretive about how seriously they take this stuff and how draconian they can be. Bad choice, disproportionately bad consequences. I'm sorry for him, but this is not our government's responsibility.

It does matter if we 'like' their laws when their laws are not laws. You understand this man is starving his own people?

. Yes exactly he starves his own people. Why would you think you'd fair better as a citizen from a nation considered the enemy? No one is saying NK is not insane, just that Otto bares some responsibility for the situation he's now in.

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Anonymous wrote:Very hostile pp. Are you happy this kid has a neurological injury? If you can't say something nice ...don't say it.

Tell that to the man's father.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt poorly for this family yesterday. Then I see he tried to lay this at the feet of President Obama. Take some responsibility for the fact that your adult son went to N. Korea. Screw you and your entitled family. Looks like it couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch.

Source please?

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, based on the stupid Rs posting here, Trump would be advised to start a war in N. Korea because...Otto! Then people will not be talking about his obstruction or collusion, they'll be nodding approvingly because..war. strong. Otto.

I pay as much attention to those posters as I do to the equally vindictive posters who say the kid got what was coming to him and deserved to be beaten to a pulp. SMH.

Who said he "deserved" it?

Read the thread.

I've already read every post. Don't recall a single post saying he "deserved" it. Cite an example or I call BS.

So what you are saying is unless someone outwardly uses those words, it's not so? What do you think all the comments about not traveling there in the first place were about? Those that criticized his character? Liberals love to step in their own crap and then point fingers.

None of that means he "deserves" this outcome. You are misinterpreting those comments. He can sure be a cocky a-hole who made a mistake but that certainly doesn't mean he DESERVES it. But if that interferes with your narrative, carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt poorly for this family yesterday. Then I see he tried to lay this at the feet of President Obama. Take some responsibility for the fact that your adult son went to N. Korea. Screw you and your entitled family. Looks like it couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch.

Source please?

Plus I call BS that you ever felt bad for his family. You are full of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt poorly for this family yesterday. Then I see he tried to lay this at the feet of President Obama. Take some responsibility for the fact that your adult son went to N. Korea. Screw you and your entitled family. Looks like it couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch.

+1.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/us/otto-warmbier-north-korea-ohio-student-home.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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Anonymous wrote:I felt poorly for this family yesterday. Then I see he tried to lay this at the feet of President Obama. Take some responsibility for the fact that your adult son went to N. Korea. Screw you and your entitled family. Looks like it couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch.

+1.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/us/otto-warmbier-north-korea-ohio-student-home.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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Stupid is as stupid does.

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta LOL. The Party of Personal Responsibility strikes again. People are responsible for doing stupid things. Unless they are wealthy white men. Or POTUS. In which case-- let's nuke them. Just awesome.

No one on this thread is claiming that Otto didn't do stupid things. No one.

But if Otto had a different skin color or Obama had been the one to secure Otto's release rather than Trump many of you judgmental liberals would be singing a different tune.

FFS. Aside from the Worm, with the backing of some weed business, brown people are smart enough not to visit N. Korea.

What are you trying to say? That brown people are smarter than white people? Imagine if a black guy endured what this kid did, and someone said white people are smart enough not to do that? I can't believe how racist you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt poorly for this family yesterday. Then I see he tried to lay this at the feet of President Obama. Take some responsibility for the fact that your adult son went to N. Korea. Screw you and your entitled family. Looks like it couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch.

+1.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/us/otto-warmbier-north-korea-ohio-student-home.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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Stupid is as stupid does.

-1 And once again, liberals prove that they only have empathy for those who agree with their politics.