Someone leaked Trump's 1995 tax returns

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Anonymous wrote:
I see Hillary supporters making excuses for Amazon taking the exact same deduction. Amazon lost a lot of money on eCommerce for 20 years. How many mom and pop shops can survive running a loss for 20 years? It's not technology that Amazon crushes competition. It's the no sales tax for many years and artificially low prices due to big operating losses.

Taking the deduction isn't the issue. That Donald J Trump, the self made billionaire is neither self made, and probably not a billionaire is the issue. Yes, he didn't pay taxes and live opulently during that period on the backs of every working man and woman in the US who are "not smart" by his definition, is the issue.

Why do the conservatives keep banging the drum as if the tax avoidance is the issue? It isn't and it just makes you look more pathetic when you repeat the likes of Hannity without your own original thoughts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I see Hillary supporters making excuses for Amazon taking the exact same deduction. Amazon lost a lot of money on eCommerce for 20 years. How many mom and pop shops can survive running a loss for 20 years? It's not technology that Amazon crushes competition. It's the no sales tax for many years and artificially low prices due to big operating losses.

Wait, Hillary is responsible for Amazon now? Really, is there ANYTHING that we do not point at Hillary?

I slipped on a banana peel and spilled hot Starbucks on myself this morning. Hillary!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I see Hillary supporters making excuses for Amazon taking the exact same deduction. Amazon lost a lot of money on eCommerce for 20 years. How many mom and pop shops can survive running a loss for 20 years? It's not technology that Amazon crushes competition. It's the no sales tax for many years and artificially low prices due to big operating losses.

How is any politician responsible for Amazon? Amazon made money but kept on investing in building distribution centers, logistics centers and server farms. So they made operating loss. It was not a business that was losing money because of bad bet or poor management. Amazon created a single place shopping and a huge scale that reduced per item cost. The tax benefits of 2-5% didn't change their value proposition at all. Also Amazon is a publicly run company so we have all the financial details are available to public. So we know Hiw much Jeff bezos was paid, how much was common salary, how much was in stocks etc. so it is easy for any accountant to calculate his taxes.

Trump on the other hand runs a totally closed private company and we have no clue about his finances. Who Are hus kenders? Are they Russians and Chinese? Who are his Russian investors? So it is totally different. That's why his tax returns are in the interest of this country when he is a presidential candidate.

[Anonymous]

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You are 100% wrong inyour first paragraph. From all accounts, the NOL people are freaked out about relates to Trumps PERSONAL investment in the Taj. It was the only one of his bankruptcies were he had skin in the game. To do the deal, he was required to be personally on the hook for 1 billion. It failed. He learned his lesson.

Beyond that, your post discloses you have heard about a lot of things and have little actual knowledge. That's dangerous.

You say this as if it were fact and as if it were passive. TRUMP failed. How does one fail in a regulated industry like casinos? You have to be a moron. He over-extended and didn't use sound business practices - something that real business people like Steve Jobs and Warren Buffet do do. And how does he make up for the shattering of Atlantic City? He stiffs his vendors, causes thousands to lose jobs that they had for decades and then declares personal bankruptcy and takes the carryover loss on his personal taxes.

How is that genius? Well I guess it is if you are looking out for yourself, but the way Trump had it set up, he had no responsibility to anyone else - the banks, the plumbers, the housekeeping, or anyone else.

All may be legal, but it isn't Presidential leadership.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The big issue here is that TRUMP borrowed from the banks and then defaulted on his loans thus screwing the banks NOT himself. Then he used the debt money that was defaulted as loss and carried over the loss for 15years offsetting any taxes. This is a big loophole. It is one thing to lose your money and claim loss. It is another thing to lose the banks money and claim loss on your tax returns, which is what Trump has done repeatedly. My bet is he has never paid taxes for over 3 decades.

It may not be illegal BUT it is a tax code that favors the rich and discriminates the average American. Because Rich people setup S-corps and they borrow in the S-corps name. When things don't go well they shut down the S-corp BUT they are not affected. So it's like the avg man should buy a home on S-Corp, never pay the mortgage, dissolve the S-Corp and then take the loss personally to offset tax payment. Can we do that? Of course not. Then why should the rich guys do it?

Now Trump wants to make the system even more favorable to the rich by giving himself tax cuts and drop estate taxes that benefits himself, Not the other 99%. He is boorish, misogynist, narcissistic Idiot. All of that are disqualifying by themselves. But he is a moocher that sucks every system dry by gaming the system in all possible ways. He is running for president to totally control the system for himself. Wake up America.

You are 100% wrong inyour first paragraph. From all accounts, the NOL people are freaked out about relates to Trumps PERSONAL investment in the Taj. It was the only one of his bankruptcies were he had skin in the game. To do the deal, he was required to be personally on the hook for 1 billion. It failed. He learned his lesson.

Beyond that, your post discloses you have heard about a lot of things and have little actual knowledge. That's dangerous.

How do you know he put his own money? Because he said so? Show us credible proof that he put his money down and that is the $1billion loss. Otherwise you are the one without credibility and that makes you a conned trumpkin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The big issue here is that TRUMP borrowed from the banks and then defaulted on his loans thus screwing the banks NOT himself. Then he used the debt money that was defaulted as loss and carried over the loss for 15years offsetting any taxes. This is a big loophole. It is one thing to lose your money and claim loss. It is another thing to lose the banks money and claim loss on your tax returns, which is what Trump has done repeatedly. My bet is he has never paid taxes for over 3 decades.

It may not be illegal BUT it is a tax code that favors the rich and discriminates the average American. Because Rich people setup S-corps and they borrow in the S-corps name. When things don't go well they shut down the S-corp BUT they are not affected. So it's like the avg man should buy a home on S-Corp, never pay the mortgage, dissolve the S-Corp and then take the loss personally to offset tax payment. Can we do that? Of course not. Then why should the rich guys do it?

Now Trump wants to make the system even more favorable to the rich by giving himself tax cuts and drop estate taxes that benefits himself, Not the other 99%. He is boorish, misogynist, narcissistic Idiot. All of that are disqualifying by themselves. But he is a moocher that sucks every system dry by gaming the system in all possible ways. He is running for president to totally control the system for himself. Wake up America.

You are 100% wrong inyour first paragraph. From all accounts, the NOL people are freaked out about relates to Trumps PERSONAL investment in the Taj. It was the only one of his bankruptcies were he had skin in the game. To do the deal, he was required to be personally on the hook for 1 billion. It failed. He learned his lesson.

Beyond that, your post discloses you have heard about a lot of things and have little actual knowledge. That's dangerous.

How do you know he put his own money? Because he said so? Show us credible proof that he put his money down and that is the $1billion loss. Otherwise you are the one without credibility and that makes you a conned trumpkin.

The bankruptcy of the Taj is public record. Feel free to look it up. I am not here to do your work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I see Hillary supporters making excuses for Amazon taking the exact same deduction. Amazon lost a lot of money on eCommerce for 20 years. How many mom and pop shops can survive running a loss for 20 years? It's not technology that Amazon crushes competition. It's the no sales tax for many years and artificially low prices due to big operating losses.

Taking the deduction isn't the issue. That Donald J Trump, the self made billionaire is neither self made, and probably not a billionaire is the issue. Yes, he didn't pay taxes and live opulently during that period on the backs of every working man and woman in the US who are "not smart" by his definition, is the issue.

Why do the conservatives keep banging the drum as if the tax avoidance is the issue? It isn't and it just makes you look more pathetic when you repeat the likes of Hannity without your own original thoughts.

You were incoherent and didn't have any original thought. How does three pages of one year tax return tell you a) whether he is self made and b) a billionaire? Are you this clueless? If the line of almost a billion tax deduction is not what we are discussing here then what else on that tax return is an interest of you? You know every billionaire, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffet, George Soros, the big HFs supporting Hillary all took massive losses on their tax returns when they incurred them. It's within the tax code and foolish people don't become billionaires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The big issue here is that TRUMP borrowed from the banks and then defaulted on his loans thus screwing the banks NOT himself. Then he used the debt money that was defaulted as loss and carried over the loss for 15years offsetting any taxes. This is a big loophole. It is one thing to lose your money and claim loss. It is another thing to lose the banks money and claim loss on your tax returns, which is what Trump has done repeatedly. My bet is he has never paid taxes for over 3 decades.

It may not be illegal BUT it is a tax code that favors the rich and discriminates the average American. Because Rich people setup S-corps and they borrow in the S-corps name. When things don't go well they shut down the S-corp BUT they are not affected. So it's like the avg man should buy a home on S-Corp, never pay the mortgage, dissolve the S-Corp and then take the loss personally to offset tax payment. Can we do that? Of course not. Then why should the rich guys do it?

Now Trump wants to make the system even more favorable to the rich by giving himself tax cuts and drop estate taxes that benefits himself, Not the other 99%. He is boorish, misogynist, narcissistic Idiot. All of that are disqualifying by themselves. But he is a moocher that sucks every system dry by gaming the system in all possible ways. He is running for president to totally control the system for himself. Wake up America.

You are 100% wrong inyour first paragraph. From all accounts, the NOL people are freaked out about relates to Trumps PERSONAL investment in the Taj. It was the only one of his bankruptcies were he had skin in the game. To do the deal, he was required to be personally on the hook for 1 billion. It failed. He learned his lesson.

Beyond that, your post discloses you have heard about a lot of things and have little actual knowledge. That's dangerous.

How do you know he put his own money? Because he said so? Show us credible proof that he put his money down and that is the $1billion loss. Otherwise you are the one without credibility and that makes you a conned trumpkin.

The bankruptcy of the Taj is public record. Feel free to look it up. I am not here to do your work.

The idiot when exposed runs away because it is a lie. It is your job to prove your case otherwise it is a lie. I am not questioning the bankruptcy of trump tajmahal. But it was not his money he lost, it was banks money. Trump in the early1990s was not that rich to loan himself $1Billion. Do some math before you post. It shows your lack of intelligence and critical thinking ability. Bye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are 100% wrong inyour first paragraph. From all accounts, the NOL people are freaked out about relates to Trumps PERSONAL investment in the Taj. It was the only one of his bankruptcies were he had skin in the game. To do the deal, he was required to be personally on the hook for 1 billion. It failed. He learned his lesson.

Beyond that, your post discloses you have heard about a lot of things and have little actual knowledge. That's dangerous.

You say this as if it were fact and as if it were passive. TRUMP failed. How does one fail in a regulated industry like casinos? You have to be a moron. He over-extended and didn't use sound business practices - something that real business people like Steve Jobs and Warren Buffet do do. And how does he make up for the shattering of Atlantic City? He stiffs his vendors, causes thousands to lose jobs that they had for decades and then declares personal bankruptcy and takes the carryover loss on his personal taxes.

How is that genius? Well I guess it is if you are looking out for yourself, but the way Trump had it set up, he had no responsibility to anyone else - the banks, the plumbers, the housekeeping, or anyone else.

All may be legal, but it isn't Presidential leadership.

Steven Jobs almost killed Apple and no one has ever commended his business genius. His creative genius and drive, yes. But never his business genius.
Warren Buffet has made a fortune buying distressed companies and trying to turn them around. Some with more success than others. But during the course of that he has taken advantage of bankruptcy laws and has closed companies putting thousands out of work.

I no where said I thought Trump was a competent business man. Or that his failure was attributable to anything other than ineptitude. But st least I am trying to use facts and not the shrill shrieking of Vice or Vox or Rachel Maddow.

And before you pontificate about business structures you should really learn the basics. Then you would know why you screed about S-corps shoes laughable ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I see Hillary supporters making excuses for Amazon taking the exact same deduction. Amazon lost a lot of money on eCommerce for 20 years. How many mom and pop shops can survive running a loss for 20 years? It's not technology that Amazon crushes competition. It's the no sales tax for many years and artificially low prices due to big operating losses.

Taking the deduction isn't the issue. That Donald J Trump, the self made billionaire is neither self made, and probably not a billionaire is the issue. Yes, he didn't pay taxes and live opulently during that period on the backs of every working man and woman in the US who are "not smart" by his definition, is the issue.

Why do the conservatives keep banging the drum as if the tax avoidance is the issue? It isn't and it just makes you look more pathetic when you repeat the likes of Hannity without your own original thoughts.

Okay, so the issue you have is that Donald Trump is that as rich/poor/mediocre as he is, he did not pay more taxes than he was legally obligated to pay. That's your issue?

Really?

[Anonymous]

Atlantic City is a dangerous craphole due to democratic policies. How do you draw the public when they don't feel safe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So basically because he was a horrible businessman, he took a 900 Million loss and has been amortizing it for decades in tax avoidance.

So we are all chumps for paying our 30% or whatever while he freeloads on the government and then bases his campaign on poor government and his business acumen.

Ya, he's smart.

Asshole.

Where's your outrage for the TRILLIONS Google, Facebook, Exxon, Amazon, General Electric, etc. dodge? Trump is small potatoes.

Those are ALL corps. Trump's PERSONAL deduction in 1995 was 1.9% of NATIONWIDE total.

I don't think Trumpsters understand the difference between personal and corporate tax returns. If Trumpsters want to talk about corporate tax returns, then by all means, let's drudge up the Trump organization tax returns and see how much that organization actually paid. And btw, those other corporations are all public, meaning they answer to shareholders, and shareholders, including individuals who own shares through mutual funds, make money off of those companies. Trump Org. is private. Only the Trump family really makes money off of those loopholes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Atlantic City is a dangerous craphole due to democratic policies. How do you draw the public when they don't feel safe?

Then he was stupid to open a casino there, and he can blame his pal Christie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The big issue here is that TRUMP borrowed from the banks and then defaulted on his loans thus screwing the banks NOT himself. Then he used the debt money that was defaulted as loss and carried over the loss for 15years offsetting any taxes. This is a big loophole. It is one thing to lose your money and claim loss. It is another thing to lose the banks money and claim loss on your tax returns, which is what Trump has done repeatedly. My bet is he has never paid taxes for over 3 decades.

It may not be illegal BUT it is a tax code that favors the rich and discriminates the average American. Because Rich people setup S-corps and they borrow in the S-corps name. When things don't go well they shut down the S-corp BUT they are not affected. So it's like the avg man should buy a home on S-Corp, never pay the mortgage, dissolve the S-Corp and then take the loss personally to offset tax payment. Can we do that? Of course not. Then why should the rich guys do it?

Now Trump wants to make the system even more favorable to the rich by giving himself tax cuts and drop estate taxes that benefits himself, Not the other 99%. He is boorish, misogynist, narcissistic Idiot. All of that are disqualifying by themselves. But he is a moocher that sucks every system dry by gaming the system in all possible ways. He is running for president to totally control the system for himself. Wake up America.

You are 100% wrong inyour first paragraph. From all accounts, the NOL people are freaked out about relates to Trumps PERSONAL investment in the Taj. It was the only one of his bankruptcies were he had skin in the game. To do the deal, he was required to be personally on the hook for 1 billion. It failed. He learned his lesson.

Beyond that, your post discloses you have heard about a lot of things and have little actual knowledge. That's dangerous.

How do you know he put his own money? Because he said so? Show us credible proof that he put his money down and that is the $1billion loss. Otherwise you are the one without credibility and that makes you a conned trumpkin.

The bankruptcy of the Taj is public record. Feel free to look it up. I am not here to do your work.

The idiot when exposed runs away because it is a lie. It is your job to prove your case otherwise it is a lie. I am not questioning the bankruptcy of trump tajmahal. But it was not his money he lost, it was banks money. Trump in the early1990s was not that rich to loan himself $1Billion. Do some math before you post. It shows your lack of intelligence and critical thinking ability. Bye.

I am sure you like Snopes. Here. http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/01/donald-trumps-bankruptcies/

"By the following year the casino itself was in debt to the tune of $3 billion, while Trump himself owed some $900 million in personal liabilities."

[Anonymous]

The next shoe is about to drop

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2016/10/04/donald-trump-tax-returns-salary-irs/%3fsource=dam?client=safari