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Anonymous wrote:NP.. With all the dismissiveness upthread, can the poster who said "I doubt Beyoncé knows what it's like to be a Black woman" explain that statement. What exactly do you think it's like to be a Black woman? I too took it to mean the poster meant it as a Black woman is equivalent to all the negative pejorative stereotypes imaginable. Perhaps, I and the other posters are wrong in our interpretation of that sentence.
I took it to mean that the average Black woman has it pretty rough, unlike a rich af black woman who would have an easier go of it by virtue of her class privilege, while still subject to problems of being black in a culture that doesn't respect, appreciate, or even sometimes tolerate blackness. The sentences preceding the quoted passage above both reference Beyonce's class/status specifically, so it's pretty straightforward to apply that context.
If, you know, taking it in context was someone's goal. If you want to separate it from the context and make it something inflammatory, you can do that (and several posts have).
I am the poster who requested the explanation. Now substitute Black and insert White or Asian. If someone wrote they doubt Jennifer Anniston knows what it's like to be a white woman or Mindy Kaling an Asian woman how would you define that? I mean they both grew up upper middle class and have privileged lives. Do all white women or Asian women have the same experiences? Absolutely not! Does that make them any less White, or Asian. No. Perhaps, the original poster meant a poor Black woman, or a poor woman period. But it was clear her intent was to conquer and divide just by inserting race.
I've always had a problem with Black people trying to define whether another Black person is Black enough, but Jesus this is a new low with other races of people wanting to define who is and isn't Black enough. More important, other people trying define what it is to be Black. In spite of my close associations and friendships with more than a few white women, I expect you would not want me to opine on what a typical white woman's life experiences are. First, it would be trite stereotyping. Second, it's down right ignorant, something I'm not.
I took it to mean that the average white woman has it pretty rough, unlike a rich af white woman who would have an easier go of it by virtue of her class privilege. Seems legit
I took it to mean that the average brown woman has it pretty rough, unlike a rich af brown woman who would have an easier go of it by virtue of her class privilege. Seems legit
I took it to mean that the average asian woman has it pretty rough, unlike a rich af asian woman who would have an easier go of it by virtue of her class privilege. Seems legit
I took it to mean that the average queer woman has it pretty rough, unlike a rich af queer woman who would have an easier go of it by virtue of her class privilege. Seems legit.
Point: intersectionality matters. Class privilege does NOT negate/remove racial biases, but having class privilege can and does shape the narrative of a life by virtue of additional resources, opportunities, etc.
I don't know where the hell you get "black enough" from any of this. And average and typical aren't really synonymous. All women, by virtue of being women, lack at least the advantages granted men. That's pretty rough. Making cents on the dollar is kinda fucking rough. Not being safe in your skin is kinda fucking rough. And, get ready for it, adding race to the mix makes it even MORE rough.
This isn't ignorance, it's fact. I don't know what the hell you have against facts, but it's making it rul hard to have a conversation with you.
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