RIP Prince

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Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?

I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.


Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.

Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.

You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.

I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.


Can you wait until the man is in the ground before you start trying to tear apart his reputation. He was a decent and private man. Show some dn respect for the dead.


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First, I'm not saying this to anyone who knew him personally. I doubt his friends and family are on this thread.

Second, I am a firm believer in honesty when it comes to addiction. My sister is an addict (she loves dilaudid and Ativan). When she dies, our family won't pretend that she died from the flu or some such. I'm sure his friends and family knew about his addiction...you can't hide an addiction like that.

I am concerned with the American notion of political correctness that sugarcoats everything and rewrites history when a celebrity dies. I actually think it's quite harmful for teens and young adults to see addicts idolized and their addiction ignored.

+1,000,000
We need to be honest about self-harm and drug use.



We also need to talk about a system where even people with access to the very best healthcare money can offer still aren't getting their ailments treated well. If Prince was self-medicating because of chronic pain, that is a shame on his doctors for not providing the care he needed. Like, Health Ledger and his sleep issues. We can blame the individual or we can take a hard look at a medical system that looks almost solely to dangerous medications when healing is called for.

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Springsteen opened his show in Brooklyn tonight with "Purple Rain."
http://youtu.be/KkOxeKA2WNE
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If Prince was self-medicating because of chronic pain, that is a shame on his doctors for not providing the care he needed.


I think his religion is more to blame for making hip replacement surgery impossible.
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If Prince was self-medicating because of chronic pain, that is a shame on his doctors for not providing the care he needed.


I think his religion is more to blame for making hip replacement surgery impossible.


He did have hip replacement surgery...
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?

I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.


Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.

Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.

You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.

I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.


Can you wait until the man is in the ground before you start trying to tear apart his reputation. He was a decent and private man. Show some dn respect for the dead.


?

First, I'm not saying this to anyone who knew him personally. I doubt his friends and family are on this thread.

Second, I am a firm believer in honesty when it comes to addiction. My sister is an addict (she loves dilaudid and Ativan). When she dies, our family won't pretend that she died from the flu or some such. I'm sure his friends and family knew about his addiction...you can't hide an addiction like that.

I am concerned with the American notion of political correctness that sugarcoats everything and rewrites history when a celebrity dies. I actually think it's quite harmful for teens and young adults to see addicts idolized and their addiction ignored.

+1,000,000
We need to be honest about self-harm and drug use.



We also need to talk about a system where even people with access to the very best healthcare money can offer still aren't getting their ailments treated well. If Prince was self-medicating because of chronic pain, that is a shame on his doctors for not providing the care he needed. Like, Health Ledger and his sleep issues. We can blame the individual or we can take a hard look at a medical system that looks almost solely to dangerous medications when healing is called for.


Yes. Thank you Big Pharma.
I hate them for their constant drug pushing.
Every. Freaking. Day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Springsteen opened his show in Brooklyn tonight with "Purple Rain."
http://youtu.be/KkOxeKA2WNE


Thanks for this!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?

I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.


Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.

Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.

You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.

I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.


Can you wait until the man is in the ground before you start trying to tear apart his reputation. He was a decent and private man. Show some dn respect for the dead.


?

First, I'm not saying this to anyone who knew him personally. I doubt his friends and family are on this thread.

Second, I am a firm believer in honesty when it comes to addiction. My sister is an addict (she loves dilaudid and Ativan). When she dies, our family won't pretend that she died from the flu or some such. I'm sure his friends and family knew about his addiction...you can't hide an addiction like that.

I am concerned with the American notion of political correctness that sugarcoats everything and rewrites history when a celebrity dies. I actually think it's quite harmful for teens and young adults to see addicts idolized and their addiction ignored.

+1,000,000
We need to be honest about self-harm and drug use.



We also need to talk about a system where even people with access to the very best healthcare money can offer still aren't getting their ailments treated well. If Prince was self-medicating because of chronic pain, that is a shame on his doctors for not providing the care he needed. Like, Health Ledger and his sleep issues. We can blame the individual or we can take a hard look at a medical system that looks almost solely to dangerous medications when healing is called for.


Yes. Thank you Big Pharma.
I hate them for their constant drug pushing.
Every. Freaking. Day.


And the converse of that is that people who need medications are treated like drug addicts because of people who have overreacted to big pharma. There is a balance to be had.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we refrain from speculating on whether he was an addict or not until the autopsy results are back?

I always thought deep down he was shy. I watched a video today where he said he tried to be as flamboyant and loud as possible because he was bullied as a child. So, even if he did do drugs for mental problems, let's not judge him.


Nobody is judging him. But as a mother, I'm not sugarcoating the danger of addiction. It's not okay. And just because he was a famous musician doesn't mean we should ignore it. In fact, it presents a teachable moment.

Guess what? If you are in chronic pain, then it's best to undergo medical treatment as opposed to self-medicating with dangerous drugs that can kill you.

You can celebrate the musical genius and acknowledge this shortcomings...it's okay, people.

I was given a small dose of dilaudud when I was in the er a decade ago...that stuff is crazy! My husband asked what they gave me and was bedside himself as he monitored me until I came out of it. Never again.


Can you wait until the man is in the ground before you start trying to tear apart his reputation. He was a decent and private man. Show some dn respect for the dead.


?

First, I'm not saying this to anyone who knew him personally. I doubt his friends and family are on this thread.

Second, I am a firm believer in honesty when it comes to addiction. My sister is an addict (she loves dilaudid and Ativan). When she dies, our family won't pretend that she died from the flu or some such. I'm sure his friends and family knew about his addiction...you can't hide an addiction like that.

I am concerned with the American notion of political correctness that sugarcoats everything and rewrites history when a celebrity dies. I actually think it's quite harmful for teens and young adults to see addicts idolized and their addiction ignored.

+1,000,000
We need to be honest about self-harm and drug use.



We also need to talk about a system where even people with access to the very best healthcare money can offer still aren't getting their ailments treated well. If Prince was self-medicating because of chronic pain, that is a shame on his doctors for not providing the care he needed. Like, Health Ledger and his sleep issues. We can blame the individual or we can take a hard look at a medical system that looks almost solely to dangerous medications when healing is called for.


Yes. Thank you Big Pharma.
I hate them for their constant drug pushing.
Every. Freaking. Day.


And the converse of that is that people who need medications are treated like drug addicts because of people who have overreacted to big pharma. There is a balance to be had.

Perhaps doctors don't know what they're doing.
Anonymous
From what I read, he didn't have the hip surgery and he used a cane.
Anonymous
Kevin Smith on his weird week with Prince (not ultimately very flattering to Prince honestly):
Anonymous
1. He wrecked his hips by wearing platforms 24/7.

2. He refused hip replacement surgery for bizarre religious reasons.

3. He became addicted to dangerous pain meds, and used crazy pain meds to self medicate. (Doctors do not prescribe dilaudid and fentanyl...those are administered in the hospital under watch.)

4. He died. We aren't exactly sure why yet, but we can guess.

This is what we know. And this is what I'm explaining to my kids as they ask questions. Ignoring the addiction teaches kids that addiction is shameful and shouldn't be discussed. It teaches them to hide it.

When you say, "Let's not tarnish his reputation," you are fostering the harmful notion that addiction is shameful and should be hidden. Bad move.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:1. He wrecked his hips by wearing platforms 24/7.

2. He refused hip replacement surgery for bizarre religious reasons.

3. He became addicted to dangerous pain meds, and used crazy pain meds to self medicate. (Doctors do not prescribe dilaudid and fentanyl...those are administered in the hospital under watch.)

4. He died. We aren't exactly sure why yet, but we can guess.

This is what we know. And this is what I'm explaining to my kids as they ask questions. Ignoring the addiction teaches kids that addiction is shameful and shouldn't be discussed. It teaches them to hide it.

When you say, "Let's not tarnish his reputation," you are fostering the harmful notion that addiction is shameful and should be hidden. Bad move.


Wow. You actually don't KNOW any of the above. Why don't you wait before you make statements as facts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. He wrecked his hips by wearing platforms 24/7.

2. He refused hip replacement surgery for bizarre religious reasons.

3. He became addicted to dangerous pain meds, and used crazy pain meds to self medicate. (Doctors do not prescribe dilaudid and fentanyl...those are administered in the hospital under watch.)

4. He died. We aren't exactly sure why yet, but we can guess.

This is what we know. And this is what I'm explaining to my kids as they ask questions. Ignoring the addiction teaches kids that addiction is shameful and shouldn't be discussed. It teaches them to hide it.

When you say, "Let's not tarnish his reputation," you are fostering the harmful notion that addiction is shameful and should be hidden. Bad move.


Wow. You actually don't KNOW any of the above. Why don't you wait before you make statements as facts.


It's all over the media. You can choose to keep your head in the sand if you prefer. He nearly overdosed a couple weeks ago. The flu thing was a cover. He could not have performed that night (we've seen the video) if he had the flu. You don't make an emergency landing for the early hours/stages of the flu. And he obviously wasn't in the throes of influenza when he performed. It's been leaked that he needed the narcon shot.
Anonymous
And we've seen pics of him riding a bike around his estate the day before he died, so he clearly didn't have the flu.
Anonymous
The police and preliminary medical reports of it not being suicide likely mean that it was an accidental overdose...like MJ...but that doesn't mean that it wasn't an overdose.
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