Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I agree that it benefits DCPS when high earning, well educated upper middle class parents stay in DC and send their children to public school. Those parents should move in boundary to the school they would like their children to attend or they should play the lottery.

Residency fraud by middle class and affluent = good
Residency fraud by working class people = bad

This is such a double standard. Residency fraud is residency fraud.

I'd you have multiple homes and your primary residency doesn't get you into the school of your dreams do what most affluent people have always done in DC, send your child to private school.

When PG County families who don't file, let alone pay, DC taxes use grandma's address to send their kids to a DCPS school for the free preschool and prek, they're committing fraud. Middle-class families who rent or buy second places for lack of a remotely acceptable neighborhood school while paying income and property tax (perhaps on two properties) are different kettle of fish. I'm not about to report parents renting 2nd places because I know that they can't afford private school and don't see the Distrist, their neighborhoods, or the schools their children attend (particularly Deal), as being better off without them. So launch into me for not snitching. I'll leave that to you guys.

[Anonymous]

^^ I can see the distinction you're making. But guess what? Both families are cheating, and the fact that the DC family with 2 residences pay DC taxes STILL does not entitle them to cheat and lie to get into a better school. Again, there are rules, and people don't get to choose when and which rules apply to them.

So you won't report those families, fine. We still will, and without even the slightest hesitation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beg to differ. If parents are willing to cover all their financial and document bases and more - pay rent or a 2nd mortgage, produce a lease, pay stub, and change their drivers license, vehicle registration, voter registration etc. address over to a 2nd property, I could care less where their kids go to school.

To my mind, the good of having more high earning, well educated upper middle class parents stay in DCPS far outweighs the "bad" of the "cheating" for me. Who wins when such parents run to Fairfax, Arlington and MoCo for schools. You? Poor kids? Nobody wins but real estate agents in the burbs.

I agree that it benefits DCPS when high earning, well educated upper middle class parents stay in DC and send their children to public school. Those parents should move in boundary to the school they would like their children to attend or they should play the lottery.

Residency fraud by middle class and affluent = good
Residency fraud by working class people = bad

This is such a double standard. Residency fraud is residency fraud.

I'd you have multiple homes and your primary residency doesn't get you into the school of your dreams do what most affluent people have always done in DC, send your child to private school.

I'm the PP before you. You misunderstood me completely. I said, and I meant, that those high SES parents should MOVE IN BOUNDARY or play the lottery. Not cheat to CLAIM in boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ I can see the distinction you're making. But guess what? Both families are cheating, and the fact that the DC family with 2 residences pay DC taxes STILL does not entitle them to cheat and lie to get into a better school. Again, there are rules, and people don't get to choose when and which rules apply to them.

So you won't report those families, fine. We still will, and without even the slightest hesitation.

Those hell bent on tattling on cheating families seem to need a reality check on what happens next. Not much.

If a principal wants a residency investigation done (and only if) DCPS Central sends an investigator to an address after arranging for one of the parents to let them in. The investigator turns up at the appointed time, checks to see if a kid's stuff is in his or her bedroom, and if it looks like the family really lives there, which takes all of 5 minutes. The parents may be asked to provide additional documentation proving residency. That's it.

You don't think that DC resident cheaters make sure that investigations go their way? They do of course, routinely. Until DCPS gets serious about addressing school quality issues, creative address cheating is here to stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I can see the distinction you're making. But guess what? Both families are cheating, and the fact that the DC family with 2 residences pay DC taxes STILL does not entitle them to cheat and lie to get into a better school. Again, there are rules, and people don't get to choose when and which rules apply to them.

So you won't report those families, fine. We still will, and without even the slightest hesitation.

Those hell bent on tattling on cheating families seem to need a reality check on what happens next. Not much.

If a principal wants a residency investigation done (and only if) DCPS Central sends an investigator to an address after arranging for one of the parents to let them in. The investigator turns up at the appointed time, checks to see if a kid's stuff is in his or her bedroom, and if it looks like the family really lives there, which takes all of 5 minutes. The parents may be asked to provide additional documentation proving residency. That's it.

You don't think that DC resident cheaters make sure that investigations go their way? They do of course, routinely. Until DCPS gets serious about addressing school quality issues, creative address cheating is here to stay.

The fact that people get away with it doesn't mean it's okay. People get away with a lot of bad things. True character is making the right choice even when no one is looking.

Keep tattling, people. The cheaters don't always win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I can see the distinction you're making. But guess what? Both families are cheating, and the fact that the DC family with 2 residences pay DC taxes STILL does not entitle them to cheat and lie to get into a better school. Again, there are rules, and people don't get to choose when and which rules apply to them.

So you won't report those families, fine. We still will, and without even the slightest hesitation.

Those hell bent on tattling on cheating families seem to need a reality check on what happens next. Not much.

If a principal wants a residency investigation done (and only if) DCPS Central sends an investigator to an address after arranging for one of the parents to let them in. The investigator turns up at the appointed time, checks to see if a kid's stuff is in his or her bedroom, and if it looks like the family really lives there, which takes all of 5 minutes. The parents may be asked to provide additional documentation proving residency. That's it.

You don't think that DC resident cheaters make sure that investigations go their way? They do of course, routinely. Until DCPS gets serious about addressing school quality issues, creative address cheating is here to stay.

Nice try at dissuading people from reporting, but I'd say the well-resourced families that I know of who were kicked out in the last 2 years would beg to differ about nothing happening. And one family I know of in particular definitely pulled out all the stops to stay. Honestly it was pressure from other parents that helped the Principal stay strong. They were out.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure that OOB families who didn't lottery in get kicked out on occasion, but not a lot. I've called the hotline before, to no avail. There's a guy at my in-boundary school who likes to get the principal's ear to complain about cheating. He hasn't managed to galvanize the like minded and isn't popular. It would be so much better if DCPS clarified residency requirements and upper documentation requirements. Encouraging parents to snitch doesn't seem like the way to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure that OOB families who didn't lottery in get kicked out on occasion, but not a lot. I've called the hotline before, to no avail. There's a guy at my in-boundary school who likes to get the principal's ear to complain about cheating. He hasn't managed to galvanize the like minded and isn't popular. It would be so much better if DCPS clarified residency requirements and upper documentation requirements. Encouraging parents to snitch doesn't seem like the way to go.

But what's not clear about residency requirements? Are you saying the OOB people at your school who didn't lottery in somehow just luckily showed up at school and registered and were honest about their OOB addresses? If people know enough to give IB addresses, they understand the requirements, they just don't care and will lie to get around them.

Sincere question, what is it about the requirements that needs clearing up?

[Anonymous]

There are fewer than five families across the sytem who are committing residency fraud in any given year.

Seriously, chill the fuck out. There is much more serious malfeasance going on that does impact the quality of schools for all kids. Pay attention to things that really matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I can see the distinction you're making. But guess what? Both families are cheating, and the fact that the DC family with 2 residences pay DC taxes STILL does not entitle them to cheat and lie to get into a better school. Again, there are rules, and people don't get to choose when and which rules apply to them.

So you won't report those families, fine. We still will, and without even the slightest hesitation.

Those hell bent on tattling on cheating families seem to need a reality check on what happens next. Not much.

If a principal wants a residency investigation done (and only if) DCPS Central sends an investigator to an address after arranging for one of the parents to let them in. The investigator turns up at the appointed time, checks to see if a kid's stuff is in his or her bedroom, and if it looks like the family really lives there, which takes all of 5 minutes. The parents may be asked to provide additional documentation proving residency. That's it.

You don't think that DC resident cheaters make sure that investigations go their way? They do of course, routinely. Until DCPS gets serious about addressing school quality issues, creative address cheating is here to stay.

Nice try at dissuading people from reporting, but I'd say the well-resourced families that I know of who were kicked out in the last 2 years would beg to differ about nothing happening. And one family I know of in particular definitely pulled out all the stops to stay. Honestly it was pressure from other parents that helped the Principal stay strong. They were out.

Well resourced? Pulled out all the stops? I'm intrigued . Can you elaborate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are fewer than five families across the sytem who are committing residency fraud in any given year.

Seriously, chill the fuck out. There is much more serious malfeasance going on that does impact the quality of schools for all kids. Pay attention to things that really matter.

I agree 100%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are fewer than five families across the sytem who are committing residency fraud in any given year.

Seriously, chill the fuck out. There is much more serious malfeasance going on that does impact the quality of schools for all kids. Pay attention to things that really matter.

I doubt that. I know of two families off the top of my head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are fewer than five families across the sytem who are committing residency fraud in any given year.

Seriously, chill the fuck out. There is much more serious malfeasance going on that does impact the quality of schools for all kids. Pay attention to things that really matter.

As if you or anyone else has any way of knowing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are fewer than five families across the sytem who are committing residency fraud in any given year.

Seriously, chill the fuck out. There is much more serious malfeasance going on that does impact the quality of schools for all kids. Pay attention to things that really matter.

That's an absurd statement, but just to play along: fewer than five families committing residency fraud in any given year? Reliable source, please, otherwise your statement is just what we know it is anyway: random silliness you just pulled out of the air. Source?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I can see the distinction you're making. But guess what? Both families are cheating, and the fact that the DC family with 2 residences pay DC taxes STILL does not entitle them to cheat and lie to get into a better school. Again, there are rules, and people don't get to choose when and which rules apply to them.

So you won't report those families, fine. We still will, and without even the slightest hesitation.

Those hell bent on tattling on cheating families seem to need a reality check on what happens next. Not much.

If a principal wants a residency investigation done (and only if) DCPS Central sends an investigator to an address after arranging for one of the parents to let them in. The investigator turns up at the appointed time, checks to see if a kid's stuff is in his or her bedroom, and if it looks like the family really lives there, which takes all of 5 minutes. The parents may be asked to provide additional documentation proving residency. That's it.

You don't think that DC resident cheaters make sure that investigations go their way? They do of course, routinely. Until DCPS gets serious about addressing school quality issues, creative address cheating is here to stay.

Nice try at dissuading people from reporting, but I'd say the well-resourced families that I know of who were kicked out in the last 2 years would beg to differ about nothing happening. And one family I know of in particular definitely pulled out all the stops to stay. Honestly it was pressure from other parents that helped the Principal stay strong. They were out.

Well resourced? Pulled out all the stops? I'm intrigued . Can you elaborate?

I'd really like to, but can't give details that anyone knowledgable of any of these families could recognize. But for those concerned that it's not worth it to report, rest assured: there are some families that always assumed they could talk their way/buy their way out of being kicked out, and they found out they were wrong.