AAP Eligible letter received

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Anonymous wroteC ACCEPTED. 83% FAT, 121 NNAT, GBRS 11, Wisc 120. Mostly 3s, two 4s, and a couple of 2s on report card. Parent referral.

That was my DC. Again, work samples can trup everything. AART had some amazing work samples for my DC and I assume that the panel saw them and realized test scores were not an accurate reflection of the ability/intelligence level. Thank goodness the AART at our school cared!


I don't believe this.



New Poster here - DC was in pool based on NNAT (99%), but would not have made the pool based on CogAT VQN. Grades are all 4s in core areas. DC is reading above grade level and receiving some differentiated lessons. I requested the screening file. GBRS was 13 with really good narrative. Teacher-submitted work samples included notations as to what behaviors each one showed. We did not submit any work samples from home. We did include letters of recommendation from people who know DC and also have prior experience with GT or AAP, both as teachers (not FCPS) and as parents. IMO, DC's test scores were marginal, but the overall file was strong. DC was accepted for Level IV for next year. I believe the committee took the whole file into account.


We had almost IDENTICAL scores are were found NOT elgible. What gives? 99% NNAT, sos-so fxat, 13 GBRS, ALL 4s. I am really confused.


How do you know you had identical scores when neither of you have posted the actual NNAT scores? Please bear in mind that the NNAT is nationally normed so a 99% can be anywhere between 135 and 160. A child getting 160 will have a huge edge over one getting 135 but other identical scores.
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what else is in the file from the school? Appealing, obviously, but think that the subjectivity needs to end. either you make the cut (and DC did) or you don't. Why are kids with lower percentiles, 2 and 3s on report card getting in but not ones that meet the requirements on paper? I am like a pit bull, I will stick with this issue, until it is more objective, even if DC gets in on appeal, this should never happen to begin with.
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Anonymous wrote:what else is in the file from the school? Appealing, obviously, but think that the subjectivity needs to end. either you make the cut (and DC did) or you don't. Why are kids with lower percentiles, 2 and 3s on report card getting in but not ones that meet the requirements on paper? I am like a pit bull, I will stick with this issue, until it is more objective, even if DC gets in on appeal, this should never happen to begin with.


It sounds like you haven't seen a copy of your child's file. Maybe requesting a copy of it from the AART would be a good start.
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I have seen it, actually, so aside from the few very random samples of work and GBRS there is nothing that would set any DC apart from another, other than scores, GBRS and report card.
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? - My Dcs file has a lot of incorrect information in the file - very obviously incorrect. Can I appeal on this - I don't believe that it was prepared by the folks listed, as the info in the file is really wrong, and I am an active parent. Suggestion? Ever heard of this before?
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Anonymous wrote:I have seen it, actually, so aside from the few very random samples of work and GBRS there is nothing that would set any DC apart from another, other than scores, GBRS and report card.


+ letters of recommendation
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none were in the school packet. do teachers usually write letters of rec?
Anonymous
I will be sure to include LORs in the appeal packet, I guess.
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No, parents request them (e.g., from piano teacher, lego instructor, soccer coach) and put them in.
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Anonymous wrote:I have seen it, actually, so aside from the few very random samples of work and GBRS there is nothing that would set any DC apart from another, other than scores, GBRS and report card.


+ letters of recommendation


Maybe you can put better samples in if the ones you saw were few and very random.
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The AART at my DC's school said that when she screened files, the teacher next to her said that she was making the decision based on work samples provided from the school if everything else was close. I don't know if that is true for everyone screening files though.
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In with 139 NNAT, 89 Cogat, unknown GBRS, 3s and 4s in report card.

But, as they say, the scores are just part of it. I believe teachers recommendations make a lot of difference.

I didn't view AAP as an indicator of how well my DC is doing or something I will fight for no matter what. I thought it only makes sense if he is a good match for the program. Am I glad he made it? Yes, of course. Would I appeal if he didn't make it? Probably not. I consider school programs as only one of the inputs. There are things we all can do to help our kids succed wether or not they get into AAP.
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Good for you, PP. I will fight on this, as my DC DOES belong in the program and the cmte made a mistake, as they do every year.
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Anonymous wrote:I recommend George Mason. They are very good. The fact that they are in a university setting gives confidence in the results.


Ok for run of the mill, but I would go to an experienced person over a student with very little experience (even if they are well supervised) if there is any indication of something complex.


For private psychologist with lots of experience, including specific experience with AAP, I recommend Dr. Diana Dahlgren in Fairfax, www.drdianadahlgren.com.


I second this recommendation!


I third; she is fantastic, both from personal experience and from the multiple folks who referred us.
Anonymous
Another thought. Did you fill out the parent questionnaire? Maybe it carries little weight but could be a difference between one screening file and another.
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