Older TJ kids: is there regret w/college app results

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

So I went to stuyvesant (back before it became fancy) and my kids went to TJ and I have gone on tours of both and the stuyvesant facilities are newer shinier and every bit as impressive at TJ if not moreso. I think the primary benefit of TJ is that the TJ kids are generally speaking wealthier and you can do more group based extracurricular projects because you feel comfortable that everyone can afford them. If you want to compete in some underwater robotics competition, everyone can afford the expenses but at new stuyvesant the money might be an issue but at least there is a pool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

Even more insufferable than previously thought

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

Study has about 300 more seniors than TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

Study has about 300 more seniors than TJ.

OK so where is the huge gap? With all those extras, why aren't they doing much better than the stuy kids? Or is it possibly that a mass spectrometer and a planetarium doesn't really add that much for the overwhelming majority of students.

And socioeconomic diversity is absolutely a challenge for those kids providing the diversity. There are a lot of stuy kids that come from homes that are not financially stable. Having affluent peers growing up is absolutely an advantage. Your kid would not be doing as well if your car was breaking down and you were missing rent from time to time and you were getting utilities cut off every once in a while. Can't just buy whatever you want to eat, you have to eat what's on sale. GTFOH acting like they are liucky to be poor.

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Its funny that discussion about TJ is always gone off the rails.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

I mean, that's kind of what I said earlier - that the Stuy kids would be in much better shape if they attended TJ because of its facilities.

I'm repeating for the umpteenth time that I'm not saying that TJ has better students or better outcomes than Stuy. But if you have one exceptional STEM focused kid and you can choose any high school in the country to send them to, you send them to TJ and it's not remotely close.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

I mean, that's kind of what I said earlier - that the Stuy kids would be in much better shape if they attended TJ because of its facilities.

I'm repeating for the umpteenth time that I'm not saying that TJ has better students or better outcomes than Stuy. But if you have one exceptional STEM focused kid and you can choose any high school in the country to send them to, you send them to TJ and it's not remotely close.

Because of a mass spectrometer?

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

I mean, that's kind of what I said earlier - that the Stuy kids would be in much better shape if they attended TJ because of its facilities.

I'm repeating for the umpteenth time that I'm not saying that TJ has better students or better outcomes than Stuy. But if you have one exceptional STEM focused kid and you can choose any high school in the country to send them to, you send them to TJ and it's not remotely close.

We have a heavily stem focused kid and we chose the base school so that college options were optimized. Kid stretched with outside stuff (research, internship, etc), maxed out rigor - and got into a great school.

We purposely did not choose Tj

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

I mean, that's kind of what I said earlier - that the Stuy kids would be in much better shape if they attended TJ because of its facilities.

I'm repeating for the umpteenth time that I'm not saying that TJ has better students or better outcomes than Stuy. But if you have one exceptional STEM focused kid and you can choose any high school in the country to send them to, you send them to TJ and it's not remotely close.

We have a heavily stem focused kid and we chose the base school so that college options were optimized. Kid stretched with outside stuff (research, internship, etc), maxed out rigor - and got into a great school.

We purposely did not choose Tj

This is always a problem for kids at TJ.

This year for example, you have a kid who represented USA on the Olympic math team and won a gold. Then you have one or two Regeneron Science Talent Search top 40. Then you have the math team captain which is going to be huge because you are leading a top 3 team in USA. The list goes on in each academic category.

So you are being compared to the above peers by AO's. You are also being compared to these peers by the teachers who are writing the recommendation letters which likewise would not as strong.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

I mean, that's kind of what I said earlier - that the Stuy kids would be in much better shape if they attended TJ because of its facilities.

I'm repeating for the umpteenth time that I'm not saying that TJ has better students or better outcomes than Stuy. But if you have one exceptional STEM focused kid and you can choose any high school in the country to send them to, you send them to TJ and it's not remotely close.

We have a heavily stem focused kid and we chose the base school so that college options were optimized. Kid stretched with outside stuff (research, internship, etc), maxed out rigor - and got into a great school.

We purposely did not choose Tj

This is always a problem for kids at TJ.

This year for example, you have a kid who represented USA on the Olympic math team and won a gold. Then you have one or two Regeneron Science Talent Search top 40. Then you have the math team captain which is going to be huge because you are leading a top 3 team in USA. The list goes on in each academic category.

So you are being compared to the above peers by AO's. You are also being compared to these peers by the teachers who are writing the recommendation letters which likewise would not as strong.

It’s in response to the person saying you pick TJ for stem focused kids. No, you don’t always do that…if you’re more interested in the long term.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here.

We were hearing a lot of senior parents complain last year about college acceptances. A lot of parents thought TJ damaged their kids chances in getting into a prestige school.

However, DC made friends with a lot of seniors. All of them have said the following (with the exception of cal tech and mit kids) - TJ prepared them for college. They joke that they regretted it- but privately, they are having a blast at college and doing really well and some are getting extremely prestigious internships as freshmen.

TJ kids are fine.

This is one of the strongest comments I've ever read on this forum.

The value of TJ lies in three key separators:
1) You are in an environment where literally 100% of your classmates care deeply about school
2) You get access to equipment and resources that - when taken in total - are available at no other high school in America
3) You get three hours of time each week that are embedded in the school day for you to join those classmates in activities that are interesting to you - leaving your after-school time available to do sports or whatever else you want to get into

It is the best public high school in America by orders of magnitude regardless of what some dopey magazines have to say, and the impact of attending stays with you for the rest of your life in the form of invaluable connections and early access to opportunities that aren't even approachable at other highly-rated schools in the DC metro area.

The science high schools in NYC would like to have a word.

Stuyvesant: just under half the school is eligible for free or reduced lunch under federal guidelines. Sends more kids to Ivy+ than TJ on an absolute and per capita basis. Stuy grads report all schools other than MIT, CalTech and Princeton being very manageable compared to high school.

Bronx Science: about half tyhe students were eligible for free reduced lunch. Sends a similar number of students to Ivy+ as Tj and also reports that college is pretty manageable compared to high school.

Brooklyn tech: about 2/3rds of the school was eligible for free or reduced lunch. They send significantly fewer kids to ivy+ than TJ but the kids there ALSO comment on college being easier than high school.

The point of this post is twofold.

1. It doesn't matter which magnet school you go to, the high school rigor puts you ina good position to succeed in college.

2. TJ is largely a public magnet school for farily affluent kids. It should be no surprise that smart affluent kiods do well academically. Stuyvesant has singificantly more working class and poor kids and what they accomplish is significantly more extraordinary.

PP. Let me be perfectly clear - I'm not at all stating that TJ's students are the best in the country. I'm saying the school itself - because of what it offers - is the best in the country by a long shot. Stuy and Bronx Science don't offer anything close to the equipment access or the enhanced high school activities experience.

The kids at all of the NYC schools would be much better positioned if they had the TJ experience - and that's not really up for debate on any meaningful level.

8th period just clubs and after school activities. Stuyvesant has those too and because they don't have school busses (everyone just takes the subway), the clubs can go on much later than TJ. The facilities at TJ are not really better, they are different. Stuyvesant has newer and arguably better facilities than TJ, aside from being in the suburbs with umc peers, I am not sure how the Tj experience is better.

Stuyvesant is housed in a 10 story building with numerous college level labs and easy access to all sorts of opportunities that only NYC has to offer. 20%+ of stuy grads go to IVY+ colleges and about 40% go to other top colleges.

... name one piece of advanced equipment that exists at Stuyvesant that's on the level of TJ's mass spectrometer, CNC router, or full-scale planetarium.

Also a nice little shot you pulled there suggesting that the socioeconomic diversity at Stuy is a minus.

Still waiting on this one... add to this the wind tunnel, the DNA sequencers, the waterjet, the motion-capture cameras.... they used to have a cloud chamber....

NP:

You are more annoying by the post. Stuy has https://stuyalumni.org/news/long-awaited-opening-of-the-lin-brothers-robotics-lab/

and
https://stuyalumni.org/news/stuyvesant-unveils-the-new-irwin-zahn-innovation-lab/

Stuy offers a more well rounded education, inc prioritizing humanities AND stem, whereas TJ focuses more on stem.

Now, stop, please. You've used your annoyingness up for 2026 already.

Confirmed - it's not close. Appreciate the effort and Stuy is certainly a fantastic school.

But there's levels to this.

So a few pieces of scientific equipment used by maybe 100-200 kids per year on any regular basis (with the vast majority of TJ kids studying CS and engineering rather than astrophysics or DNA (I think Stuy has a DNA sequencer) puts the schools on different levels? TJ has 8 Regeneron scholars this year, Stuyvesant has 10. Where is the huge gap? What are they doing with all that equipment? Perhaps they should send it to stuyvesant so someone gets some use out of it.

I mean, that's kind of what I said earlier - that the Stuy kids would be in much better shape if they attended TJ because of its facilities.

I'm repeating for the umpteenth time that I'm not saying that TJ has better students or better outcomes than Stuy. But if you have one exceptional STEM focused kid and you can choose any high school in the country to send them to, you send them to TJ and it's not remotely close.

We have a heavily stem focused kid and we chose the base school so that college options were optimized. Kid stretched with outside stuff (research, internship, etc), maxed out rigor - and got into a great school.

We purposely did not choose Tj

This is always a problem for kids at TJ.

This year for example, you have a kid who represented USA on the Olympic math team and won a gold. Then you have one or two Regeneron Science Talent Search top 40. Then you have the math team captain which is going to be huge because you are leading a top 3 team in USA. The list goes on in each academic category.

So you are being compared to the above peers by AO's. You are also being compared to these peers by the teachers who are writing the recommendation letters which likewise would not as strong.

It’s in response to the person saying you pick TJ for stem focused kids. No, you don’t always do that…if you’re more interested in the long term.

It really depends on how tail end their talent is.

A 95th percentile kid is going to struggle but might be better off there in the long run.
A 99.7 percentile kid is going to be challenged but will thrive.
A 99.85 percentile kid is going to soar.

Much below the 95th percentile and you risk failure.