R.I.P. American children

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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


No, we have invited the third world here.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


State health departments should offer testing at a low cost, if they don't already. Why should food handlers have higher health screening requirements than people working directly with small children.

Look, I get my son vaccinated. His dad acquired Hep C (not B) when he was a young boy going through medical issues. I get it. But, Americans are allowed to question public health policy, especially when it's a blanket policy and targeted interventions would drive the rate lower, which in 1991 for non-Asian children was .024% and 2.58% for Asian children born in the US. This minor change in recommendation should not be producing this reaction. I am alarmed by the anti-vaxxers, but I'm also becoming alarmed by the individuals who rail against anything that breaks with the establishment. Both groups seem to be composed of non-critical thinkers.


I think the frustration is that there was no reason for this change. It was not that there was some real safety issue. Furthermore, targeted interventions were not successful in the US previously. This change will result in a small increase in cases, small because we still recommend vaccination at two months instead of birth. However, there still was no good reason to change policy and cause what will inevitably be a slight increase in cases and impacted children. Again, if there was a real safety issue, fine. There was not.


DP to add, I think an increase in deaths and disease for a small number of children, when there was no reason to cause this increase, is a big deal. We pull products off the market because of a couple infant deaths. Yet causing a extra 30ish (projected by one preprint modeling the impact of this change) hep B deaths in children for no reason is fine? Again, if we saw data that the birth dose is problematic, fine.

There was no data showing this, though.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


State health departments should offer testing at a low cost, if they don't already. Why should food handlers have higher health screening requirements than people working directly with small children.

Look, I get my son vaccinated. His dad acquired Hep C (not B) when he was a young boy going through medical issues. I get it. But, Americans are allowed to question public health policy, especially when it's a blanket policy and targeted interventions would drive the rate lower, which in 1991 for non-Asian children was .024% and 2.58% for Asian children born in the US. This minor change in recommendation should not be producing this reaction. I am alarmed by the anti-vaxxers, but I'm also becoming alarmed by the individuals who rail against anything that breaks with the establishment. Both groups seem to be composed of non-critical thinkers.


I think the frustration is that there was no reason for this change. It was not that there was some real safety issue. Furthermore, targeted interventions were not successful in the US previously. This change will result in a small increase in cases, small because we still recommend vaccination at two months instead of birth. However, there still was no good reason to change policy and cause what will inevitably be a slight increase in cases and impacted children. Again, if there was a real safety issue, fine. There was not.


+1. And once you give an inch to the antivax hysterics, they will take a mile. There will be a nonzero number of children who will be negatively impacted by this. Someone will die of liver cancer so easily influenced, terminally online, failed remedial biology Instamoms “feel better.”
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


No, we have invited the third world here.


I dare you to take a journey into flyover country where multiple generations of white Americans have made their home. The generational poverty, sickness, and drug abuse will take your breath away. Ten year olds who weigh 150 lbs and have type 2 diabetes.

That is the “third world” I am talking about. The one where over half of babies are born on Medicaid.

To the extent we have “invited it here,” it is the doctors and nurses and CNAs we have begged to come here and serve populations and places no native born American will serve.
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What fresh hell is this with Trump’s CDC claiming that European countries don’t recommend the vaccines we do? No way that’s true. If anything, Europeans are more progressive, more sophisticated, more science-based, and more focused on health and welfare. It should be illegal for the Trump adminstration to blatantly lie on government websites.
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They may not be lying, but they are up to no good. It true that American babies are required to get many more vaccines than babies in other first world countries, but there are good reasons for that. https://www.statnews.com/2025/12/08/acip-meeting-us-childhood-vaccine-schedule-vs-europe/
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I'm so sick and tired of crazy white people in charge of health, as if the gold standard for health should be comparisons to Europe.

Notice how the idiots in HHS, CDC, are ACIP never compare US vax schedules to the healthiest countries on the planet like Japan, South Korea, or Singapore. You know what those Asian countries do? They give Hep B vax at birth. Singapore, Japan, and South Korea clearly have lower chronic disease burden and obesity. They have lower autism rates as well and probably vaccinate even more or a comparable level.

Sick and tired of crazed white people and their focus on comparing USA to Europe only.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


State health departments should offer testing at a low cost, if they don't already. Why should food handlers have higher health screening requirements than people working directly with small children.

Look, I get my son vaccinated. His dad acquired Hep C (not B) when he was a young boy going through medical issues. I get it. But, Americans are allowed to question public health policy, especially when it's a blanket policy and targeted interventions would drive the rate lower, which in 1991 for non-Asian children was .024% and 2.58% for Asian children born in the US. This minor change in recommendation should not be producing this reaction. I am alarmed by the anti-vaxxers, but I'm also becoming alarmed by the individuals who rail against anything that breaks with the establishment. Both groups seem to be composed of non-critical thinkers.


I think the frustration is that there was no reason for this change. It was not that there was some real safety issue. Furthermore, targeted interventions were not successful in the US previously. This change will result in a small increase in cases, small because we still recommend vaccination at two months instead of birth. However, there still was no good reason to change policy and cause what will inevitably be a slight increase in cases and impacted children. Again, if there was a real safety issue, fine. There was not.


+1. And once you give an inch to the antivax hysterics, they will take a mile. There will be a nonzero number of children who will be negatively impacted by this. Someone will die of liver cancer so easily influenced, terminally online, failed remedial biology Instamoms “feel better.”


I disagree. I think that kind of framing makes our side sound like we are not pro-science and we just want to stand our ground even if new or better data were to come out.

RFK is crazy but the PP talking pts didn't help either.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


No, we have invited the third world here.


I dare you to take a journey into flyover country where multiple generations of white Americans have made their home. The generational poverty, sickness, and drug abuse will take your breath away. Ten year olds who weigh 150 lbs and have type 2 diabetes.

That is the “third world” I am talking about. The one where over half of babies are born on Medicaid.

To the extent we have “invited it here,” it is the doctors and nurses and CNAs we have begged to come here and serve populations and places no native born American will serve.


And these are the people Republicans want to die. Their own voters.

You can find them in the South as well as the Midwest. In my southern home town, most medical professionals are from the "third world" countries because they are the only people who will put up with third world conditions.
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Anonymous wrote:There is no need for a Hep B vax for newborns unless the mother is positive. None at all.



I agree on this one. And I don't like anything about RFK or this Adm.


But we don’t screen all mothers , like other countries do.

And there are household sources of contact, once you enter a household!

This way works. It is called an evidence-based approach. Not a hunch based approach, which is what you and RFK seem to favor.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick and tired of crazy white people in charge of health, as if the gold standard for health should be comparisons to Europe.

Notice how the idiots in HHS, CDC, are ACIP never compare US vax schedules to the healthiest countries on the planet like Japan, South Korea, or Singapore. You know what those Asian countries do? They give Hep B vax at birth. Singapore, Japan, and South Korea clearly have lower chronic disease burden and obesity. They have lower autism rates as well and probably vaccinate even more or a comparable level.

Sick and tired of crazed white people and their focus on comparing USA to Europe only.


Exactly! Those Asian countries also give far fewer vaccines to their babies than we’re required to here in America, but they DO give Day 1 Hep B. So on this specific question, we should look to Asia, but on the overall schedule, we need to trust our pharmaceutical scientists and not worry about Europe OR Asia, both of which regions recklessly undervaccinate.
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How is it that sophisticated developed countries without bible-beaters, gun nuts, Trumpers, conspiracy theorists, etc. are way behind us in vaccine requirements? I had assumed that if we as a country could act a little more European, it would move us closer to science, not further away. Are there seriously no good role model countries in Europe or Asia? After five years of Trump and one year of RFK and all our problems with Covid deniers, how is the U.S. government still the gold standard with the most extensive childhood vaccine requirements? Why are Japan, Switzerland, Germany, Britain, etc. still lagging so far behind on the science?
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Anonymous wrote:How is it that sophisticated developed countries without bible-beaters, gun nuts, Trumpers, conspiracy theorists, etc. are way behind us in vaccine requirements? I had assumed that if we as a country could act a little more European, it would move us closer to science, not further away. Are there seriously no good role model countries in Europe or Asia? After five years of Trump and one year of RFK and all our problems with Covid deniers, how is the U.S. government still the gold standard with the most extensive childhood vaccine requirements? Why are Japan, Switzerland, Germany, Britain, etc. still lagging so far behind on the science?

As has been explained repeatedly in this thread, different populations have different needs. You’re welcome to actually read the thread if you’d like to learn more.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


State health departments should offer testing at a low cost, if they don't already. Why should food handlers have higher health screening requirements than people working directly with small children.

Look, I get my son vaccinated. His dad acquired Hep C (not B) when he was a young boy going through medical issues. I get it. But, Americans are allowed to question public health policy, especially when it's a blanket policy and targeted interventions would drive the rate lower, which in 1991 for non-Asian children was .024% and 2.58% for Asian children born in the US. This minor change in recommendation should not be producing this reaction. I am alarmed by the anti-vaxxers, but I'm also becoming alarmed by the individuals who rail against anything that breaks with the establishment. Both groups seem to be composed of non-critical thinkers.


I think the frustration is that there was no reason for this change. It was not that there was some real safety issue. Furthermore, targeted interventions were not successful in the US previously. This change will result in a small increase in cases, small because we still recommend vaccination at two months instead of birth. However, there still was no good reason to change policy and cause what will inevitably be a slight increase in cases and impacted children. Again, if there was a real safety issue, fine. There was not.


+1. And once you give an inch to the antivax hysterics, they will take a mile. There will be a nonzero number of children who will be negatively impacted by this. Someone will die of liver cancer so easily influenced, terminally online, failed remedial biology Instamoms “feel better.”


I disagree. I think that kind of framing makes our side sound like we are not pro-science and we just want to stand our ground even if new or better data were to come out.

RFK is crazy but the PP talking pts didn't help either.


When you kill kids to make low IQ, low information, functionally r-worded idiots “feel smart”, you have failed as a society.
Anonymous
Yay, measles ourbreak is now accelerating in South Carolina:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/south-carolina-measles-outbreak-quarantine/6428796/

Amazing how measles goes from being eliminated in the US to now multiple outbreaks from TX to SC.

Americans are such stupid morons. I'm so sick of this country. MAHA with 'muh freedumbz!

And measles isn’t always innocuous. It can cause brain inflammation later in life that is basically 100% fatal.

Stupid stupid American idiots.
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