R.I.P. American children

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Sorry, disagree. Please calm down.
Hep B vax is only for newborns who are at risk if their mom has Hep B or is at risk for Hep B. Babies can get the Hep B vax later. They should screen for Hep B, and only give it to newborns who are at risk, and add it to the vax schedule for kids who are not at risk.



You don’t understand. Babies can’t get it later, it’s too late. Screening is not fool proof.


It seems that MAGA will only learn when they see the consequences with their own eyes. Iron lungs. Children deaf and/or brain damaged from measles. Liver failure from hep b.

I hope they are all prepared to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. I don’t want to see my tax dollars go to caring for people suffering the side effects of preventable diseases.


You really need to think about what you just wrote there. What kind of people would we be if we penalized the victims of failure to obtain childhood vaccines? They’re children they have no control over the medical decisions being made for them especially in infancy.

We as a society allowed the orange menace to gain power and put anti science anti vaxxers in charge at CDC. We as a society are responsible for the ventilators, liver transplants, and all other supportive care for people living with preventable childhood disease because they weren’t allowed vaccines. This is a collective failure.


It's happened all the time, but is now widespread due to RFK and all the misinformation machines. This 5mo child died because an anti-vax family put the kids on an alkaline diet and they had rickets and developed osteopenia.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2025/12/10/arizona-baby-death-diet-misinformation/87687050007/

Also, it's 250 people quarantined now in South Carolina with measles.
https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/12/over-250-people-quarantined-in-south-carolina-as-measles-outbreak-rages/


Take their kids away. These parents clearly love feeling ā€œsmartā€ more than they love their children. Their kids are better off in foster care where they at least can benefit from 1960s era medicine.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.
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Anonymous wrote:One week of testing at most prior to approval



Quoting influencers makes you feel smart? What an idiot. You know what, don’t vaccinate your kids. We clearly don’t need your genes in the pool.
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Anonymous wrote:Why not research autism seriously instead of just going on feelings about vaccines? Or would that get too close to researching female health? Wouldn't want to do that!!!


What about all the people who don’t have autism and yet managed to get all the vaccines?
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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is that even though the total overall risk of Hep B is low, any small risk of disease, which is severe, costly, and devastating, is still higher than any tiny risk of the vaccine. The earlier the better as some folks are silent carriers and research shows that children still get infected through others even though they don't do drugs or have sex - due to how much more contagious Hep B is and how stable it is on surfaces (from other people is the 2nd most common way children are infected, after childbirth).

When you choose not to vaccinate even though you think the risk to you personally is low - even then - you chose the higher risk option.


DP to add, this risk calculation will inevitably tip more toward it being better to vaccinate the more our leaders push distrust in vaccination. People feel safe because we had a successful program, but now we will be weakening that program.


The true risks of vaccination have been hidden from the public while their benefits have been overstated. It’s going to shift the calculation on a lot of these in hopefully short order.


Yes, more people should know about the risks of living to adulthood. For some people, their brains go soft, and not being exposed to any real medical adversity where they needed to place their trust in someone smarter to ensure their own survival, they start buying into conspiracy theories and accepting without question everything some troll with no credentials posts on Instagram. No to vaccines, yes to made in China snake oil! Chemo no, coffee colonics yes!

Some go so far as to expose their own children to needless suffering at enormous cost to society so they can feel smart and in control. And when the inevitable happens, they are pointing the finger everywhere but themselves.

Yes, more people should know about the risks of idiots living long enough to breed. Vaccines have saved us from natural selection.

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Anonymous wrote:One week of testing at most prior to approval



Quoting influencers makes you feel smart? What an idiot. You know what, don’t vaccinate your kids. We clearly don’t need your genes in the pool.


This, what we need is a stupid vaccine, I’m so sick of morons being able to find each other and offered a platform to voice their moronic opinions. It’s not fair that the rest of the world has to suffer the injustices of stupidity. And yes I’m calling that poster and the social media poster stupid. Because that is what they are. Stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:Just so we are all clear, historically, this is why the CDC ACIP recommended HepB vaccines for children.

"If adults won't go for the shots, then give them to children" - New York Times, March 1, 1991


Because the adults were (and still are) infecting the children. And crying boo hoo when medical science can’t save their kids from their own consistently poor decision making.
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Anonymous wrote:Birth canal.

But std tests are part of obgyn annual care…


People most at risk of Hepatitis B probably aren’t getting regular obgyn care. They might not even get regular prenatal care.


So why are we pushing more shots on all newborns?

Is this to camouflage the High Risk Moms amongst the and S T D Moms? Make everyone feel better?

Unlikely. It makes someone more money.


It’s both. We sacrifice healthy children so the unhealthy don’t feel targeted. It also provides a captive and legally shielded revenue stream.

What’s the craziest is all the people who want European style healthcare who freak out when we make our policies align with theirs more closely.


Sacrifice them to what, exactly? It feels very bad for me to say it, but maybe you need to experience what it is like being the parent of an immune compromised child. Perhaps a leukemia. Just so you can experience how little some people care about the thing that matters most in the world to you.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.

There’s a 6% error rate in the testing.
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Anonymous wrote:Vaccine-injured children are not treated properly—even when the injury occurs during a clinical trial. My neice was severely injured in the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine trial for 12–15-year-olds, with damage to both her central and peripheral nervous system. Her injury was never properly reported, she was denied timely medical care, and the lack of action has devastated her life and the lives of many others who trusted this process.

She was perfectly healthy before her second dose. Today, her life is permanently altered. This level of neglect and misconduct is unacceptable, and the system that allows it to happen must change.


How is this even possible? They would be observing her in a trial. Are you saying her injury wasn't reported by her parents? Or, the timing was off, and they didn't think it was because of the vaccine? In every study I've read, they included data that shows that not everyone responded to the treatment/drug.
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Anonymous wrote:Vaccine-injured children are not treated properly—even when the injury occurs during a clinical trial. My neice was severely injured in the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine trial for 12–15-year-olds, with damage to both her central and peripheral nervous system. Her injury was never properly reported, she was denied timely medical care, and the lack of action has devastated her life and the lives of many others who trusted this process.

She was perfectly healthy before her second dose. Today, her life is permanently altered. This level of neglect and misconduct is unacceptable, and the system that allows it to happen must change.


How is this even possible? They would be observing her in a trial. Are you saying her injury wasn't reported by her parents? Or, the timing was off, and they didn't think it was because of the vaccine? In every study I've read, they included data that shows that not everyone responded to the treatment/drug.


The odds are better that the parents are confusing correlation with causation. Just look at how many people are blaming childhood vaccines for causing autism in their kids, when it’s clear to anyone with eyes the family has autism in the genes. A lot of autoimmune conditions start to rear their heads in adolescence.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


State health departments should offer testing at a low cost, if they don't already. Why should food handlers have higher health screening requirements than people working directly with small children.

Look, I get my son vaccinated. His dad acquired Hep C (not B) when he was a young boy going through medical issues. I get it. But, Americans are allowed to question public health policy, especially when it's a blanket policy and targeted interventions would drive the rate lower, which in 1991 for non-Asian children was .024% and 2.58% for Asian children born in the US. This minor change in recommendation should not be producing this reaction. I am alarmed by the anti-vaxxers, but I'm also becoming alarmed by the individuals who rail against anything that breaks with the establishment. Both groups seem to be composed of non-critical thinkers.
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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


I stayed at home after birth for a couple years. Neither DH nor I had hep B. Why would my baby need it until daycare or school? I believe in vaccines but asked the pediatrician to space out the number of shots they were giving and they accommodated that.


Did you never go to a store, restaurant, shopping mall? Because if I did you could have been infected by anyone you passed. Don't vaccinate and run the risk that you are deliberately running the risk if infecting your child and if this happens then you have only yourself to blame and don't come crying to the rest of us if your child dies because you are a fool who believed a moron with a brain worm.


Please INFORM yourself with facts before posting!!!

Hep b is transmitted by bodily fluids -- blood and semen. You cannot get it from casual contact. As long as your newborn is not having sex or exchanging needles with someone infected with Hep B, she will be fine.

Yes, as long as no one in your family has Hep B, you can wait until daycare or preschool to get Hep B vax. But if you want it at birth for your baby just ask for it!! Problem solved!!


Inform yourself. You can acquire it from casual transmission - a nanny who cut a finger and touched a toy can result in a kid dying from liver cancer.

But you do you. The more you idiots stop protecting your kids, the more likely it is they die before they can breed another generation of idiots. Thanks for doing your part to ensure a stronger, more intelligent and more pro-social gene pool.


To be fair, parents should require testing and/or vaccines from nannies and other long term care givers.


Rich parents will have no problem with this. Everyone else will get what they get, which will increasingly consist of unvaccinated caregivers who do not have affordable and reliable access to healthcare.

We are a third world nation when it comes to healthcare for 70%+ of Americans. It’s time we started acting like it.


State health departments should offer testing at a low cost, if they don't already. Why should food handlers have higher health screening requirements than people working directly with small children.

Look, I get my son vaccinated. His dad acquired Hep C (not B) when he was a young boy going through medical issues. I get it. But, Americans are allowed to question public health policy, especially when it's a blanket policy and targeted interventions would drive the rate lower, which in 1991 for non-Asian children was .024% and 2.58% for Asian children born in the US. This minor change in recommendation should not be producing this reaction. I am alarmed by the anti-vaxxers, but I'm also becoming alarmed by the individuals who rail against anything that breaks with the establishment. Both groups seem to be composed of non-critical thinkers.


I think the frustration is that there was no reason for this change. It was not that there was some real safety issue. Furthermore, targeted interventions were not successful in the US previously. This change will result in a small increase in cases, small because we still recommend vaccination at two months instead of birth. However, there still was no good reason to change policy and cause what will inevitably be a slight increase in cases and impacted children. Again, if there was a real safety issue, fine. There was not.
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