DOJ, RIP

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Anonymous wrote:I have a simple question--can't this get the guy who said he'd drop the charges disbarred? It's clear that it's an illegal move. Others from DOJ are publicly saying it's illegal. So ... how does this not injure him?

Another question - DP here - why doesn’t Bove file the dismissal and argue for it himself?


This is a way to get attorneys to resign without any severance or lawsuits. Eventually they will find a lawyer to sign their name and then will fire the lawyer when they have issues with their bar license.


Why not call the bluff? Let her fire them. Then they can all file a lawsuit. Especially since the woman in NY already made it so public as to what is happening. I would that would be the smarter chess move in this scenario instead of retreating the King.


This happens in US Attorney's offices. DOJ steps in and says don't prosecute. I've posted this before. I know for a fact this is true. It's not frequent, but it happens.

NP. I'm a former prosecutor turned big law attorney turned in-house decisionmaker. It is actually the norm for DOJ to supersede and direct the USAO's decision making on cases with political significance and backseat drive the entire process.

The media is playing up this current instance because there is an agenda to make Trump look bad. Also, Trump's cronies have zero finesse. You just don't put some things in writing unless you're a moron. These people are morons.

Now, I'm not saying that the practice of setting aside the letter of the law and letting politics be the deciding factor in charging, negotiations, and dismissals is a good thing. But that's how things are and that practice does not change from administration to administration.


No, you're not. You're full of it. And seven experienced DOJ lawyers who resigned say you are too.

Just read the motion they filed asking for the case to be dismissed. I've never read a motion where every paragraph begins with

“The Acting Deputy Attorney General has determined…and has directed…”

“The Acting Deputy Attorney General has also concluded…”



PP here. Adults are talking. Be on your way.


So mature


DP.

That post was unnecessarily condescending but the previous poster talking about politics and prosecution at the DOJ was largely full of sht.

There are many PPs at this point. Which PP do you say is full of it?

Fyi the big law to in-house lawyer was spot on. If everything in that post wasn't obviously true to you, then you definitely haven't negotiated any high profile cases with the govt. That's all right - most people haven't, but don't opine as if you're in the know when you're not.
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Anonymous wrote:Funny that some of the resignations are Trump people.


It's like they realized they are on the wrong side.


What will happen if the state bar association where Bove is licensed disbars him?

Will he decide he's above the law and just practice without a license?

isn't he breaking just about every ethics rule the ABA says lawyers are required to adhere to?

Will the ABA start urging its members to disbar these ethically challenged lawyers?

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Anonymous wrote:Funny that some of the resignations are Trump people.


It's like they realized they are on the wrong side.


What will happen if the state bar association where Bove is licensed disbars him?

Will he decide he's above the law and just practice without a license?

isn't he breaking just about every ethics rule the ABA says lawyers are required to adhere to?

Will the ABA start urging its members to disbar these ethically challenged lawyers?


That happens but the process moves really slowly. Rudy only just got disbarred within the last year for the stuff he did in 2020.
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Anonymous wrote:Another longtime DOJ lawyer has quit - we in double digits yet?

Denise Cheung, the respected head of the criminal division in the US attorneys office in DC, has abruptly resigned after refusing to carry out an unspecified directive from Trump appointees, according to people familiar w/ the situation.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/us/politics/denise-cheung-federal-prosecutor-quits.html

Yup.


Update:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/02/27/trump-fbi-epa-grant-investigation/
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Welp, charges dismissed with prejudice. Seems like the two crusading resigning prosecutors were wrong on the outcome of the motion to dismiss.
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Anonymous wrote:Welp, charges dismissed with prejudice. Seems like the two crusading resigning prosecutors were wrong on the outcome of the motion to dismiss.


Obviously, if you read the decision, they were right.
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Anonymous wrote:Welp, charges dismissed with prejudice. Seems like the two crusading resigning prosecutors were wrong on the outcome of the motion to dismiss.


Obviously, if you read the decision, they were right.


Great decision. really smart.
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This is terrible— firing a lawyer for being honest with the court
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Anonymous wrote:Welp, charges dismissed with prejudice. Seems like the two crusading resigning prosecutors were wrong on the outcome of the motion to dismiss.


Obviously, if you read the decision, they were right.


Great decision. really smart.


Charges should have never been brought in the first place.
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Anonymous wrote:This is terrible— firing a lawyer for being honest with the court


She was working against the President.
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Anonymous wrote:This is terrible— firing a lawyer for being honest with the court


She was working against the President.


He was being truthful to the court, which is his duty as an officer of the court, which every lawyer is.

Monday may find a lot more DOJ attorneys fired for the same reason. Maybe Bondi will go lie to the judge, if that's what she wants DOJ to do.
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Anonymous wrote:This is terrible— firing a lawyer for being honest with the court


She was working against the President.

Does he represent trump, or Justice on behalf of the constitution and the people of the United States
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Anonymous wrote:This is terrible— firing a lawyer for being honest with the court


She was working against the President.


He was being truthful to the court, which is his duty as an officer of the court, which every lawyer is.

Monday may find a lot more DOJ attorneys fired for the same reason. Maybe Bondi will go lie to the judge, if that's what she wants DOJ to do.

Judges need to begin holding lawyers personally accountable and in contempt for lying and misrepresenting facts to the court. Hit them in their personal pockets.
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