RFKjr Tapped to Head HHS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever Trumpers applaud these ludicrous picks it makes it blatantly obvious they have no concern for the country.

All the MAGA people say "liberals' heads are exploding!" and laugh or revel over the hysteria. They never commend the pick for their credentials. They are completely blind to the fact that these people are dangerous and will endanger our lives and those of our children.

Not my kids. If we need to go to Canada and pay out of pocket to vaccinate, that’s what we do. Because we can afford to. Can’t do anyth8ng about dead MAGA kids.

You realize vaccines will still be available here for anyone who wants them, right? But do continue making up dystopian scenarios to feed your delusions.
DP

PP is having a hysterical moment. Nothing said here about mass deaths and vaccines is remotely realistic. People are mentioning diseases like Typhus and Ebola which aren't a part of the standard vaccination schedule anyway. It's a freak out. Just like the stupid "winter of death" threats from Biden when uptake of Covid vaccines had declined and it became obvious that Covid unvaxxed are not going to take the shot even despite all the mandates and vaxxports and horrible denigrating propaganda from mainstream media and celebrities. While it's entirely possible that childhood vaccination schedule will be revised and it would be very easy to opt out of any vaccinations, it doesn't mean that they won't be available to those who want them or not covered by insurance.

Vaccination programs become fairly ineffective when too many people don’t take them. You know this.

If they prevent infection how are they ineffective? Your vaccine should protect you if it works.. Plus there are treatments too. Are these diseases we are over-vaccinating our kids for (no other country has so many shots) a major concern or do we have other major health concerns now?

this is a lie.

[Anonymous]

Another winning pick!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We would meltdown because this is insane. You are ok with kids dying from drinking raw milk?

Good God you people are hopelessly brainwashed. Humans have consumed "raw milk" for...hundreds of thousands of years.

Humans have also died from preventable, curable diseases for hundreds of thousands of years. Luckily now we have the technology to prevent this from happening. Have you ever taken antibiotics in your life?

RFK is anti-antibiotic now? Look, we had very different hygiene and sanitation standards and technology before. When you remove feces and other pollutants from water and food supply and introduce antibiotics most things that used to kill people in early age are rather manageable. But lets not forget that people are still dying TODAY at a young age and certainly in middle age from things like cancer, heart disease, genetic conditions, diabetes, etc. Cancer is on the rise, I actually don't know if our life expectancy will be any better than our ancestors in the dark ages pretty soon if we don't do something about it.

He is on the right track, everything is fair game to investigate why our chronic illness is on the rise as well as poorly managed and often incurable terminal illnesses. I mean everything: Food, water, air quality, hormonal birth control and common medical treatments, and yes, vaccines too. Nothing is a "sacred cow" when people are dying increasingly earlier and earlier. It's too late when life expectancy drops to mid 50s while our kids are dying from OD (with increased drug use and mental health issues) with healthy ones foregoing having kids or having fertility issues.

We were talking about raw milk. You are changing the subject to distract. If you are concerned about mortality rates, why put an unsafe product on shelves?

RFK doesn’t care about health. He cares about discrediting legitimate medicine so that he and his backers can sell useless supplements to idiots.

I am asking you again, is raw milk doing to be mandatory? How does it concern you that people will be able to buy it legally any more than it concerns you that people can buy alcohol, tobacco, and even garbage high TCH content cannabis products?

The point is that if you are concerned about increasing mortality as RFK claims to be, how can you also support legalizing the sale of raw milk, which increases mortality? It’s inconsistent. How do you justify that inconsistency?

Still waiting for someone to explain this…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think all this craziness needs to happen.

Maybe voters will stop treating this like a reality show and realize it has real life consequences. Meanwhile, I'll get my meds and shots abroad.

How very privileged of you.

America decided to commit suicide, and I don't have to go along with it.
I've done the dictatorship/revolution thing before. Life is too short.

DP. I’m curious: do you ever actually listen to yourself? JFC.

+1

I feel sorry for your children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever Trumpers applaud these ludicrous picks it makes it blatantly obvious they have no concern for the country.

All the MAGA people say "liberals' heads are exploding!" and laugh or revel over the hysteria. They never commend the pick for their credentials. They are completely blind to the fact that these people are dangerous and will endanger our lives and those of our children.

Not my kids. If we need to go to Canada and pay out of pocket to vaccinate, that’s what we do. Because we can afford to. Can’t do anyth8ng about dead MAGA kids.

Canada won’t take you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever Trumpers applaud these ludicrous picks it makes it blatantly obvious they have no concern for the country.

All the MAGA people say "liberals' heads are exploding!" and laugh or revel over the hysteria. They never commend the pick for their credentials. They are completely blind to the fact that these people are dangerous and will endanger our lives and those of our children.

Not my kids. If we need to go to Canada and pay out of pocket to vaccinate, that’s what we do. Because we can afford to. Can’t do anyth8ng about dead MAGA kids.

You realize vaccines will still be available here for anyone who wants them, right? But do continue making up dystopian scenarios to feed your delusions.
DP

PP is having a hysterical moment. Nothing said here about mass deaths and vaccines is remotely realistic. People are mentioning diseases like Typhus and Ebola which aren't a part of the standard vaccination schedule anyway. It's a freak out. Just like the stupid "winter of death" threats from Biden when uptake of Covid vaccines had declined and it became obvious that Covid unvaxxed are not going to take the shot even despite all the mandates and vaxxports and horrible denigrating propaganda from mainstream media and celebrities. While it's entirely possible that childhood vaccination schedule will be revised and it would be very easy to opt out of any vaccinations, it doesn't mean that they won't be available to those who want them or not covered by insurance.

Vaccination programs become fairly ineffective when too many people don’t take them. You know this.

If they prevent infection how are they ineffective? Your vaccine should protect you if it works.. Plus there are treatments too. Are these diseases we are over-vaccinating our kids for (no other country has so many shots) a major concern or do we have other major health concerns now?

No vaccine prevents infection 100% of the time across the entire population. But if fewer people are vaccinated, more people become sick and in turn have an opportunity to spread the sickness to others, including the people unfortunate enough to not gain sufficient immunity despite being vaccinated. More spread also means the pathogen has more opportunity to evolve and circumvent an existing vaccine.

Also, the diseases “aren’t a major” concern because we’re vaccinating. If we stop, they’ll become a major concern again.

Do you believe vaccinated can transmit asymptomatically? Because this is what we were conditioned to accept during Covid times. If you are doubting effectiveness of any vaccine to stop infection then you admit that vaccinated can also transmit and infect others, and this means that they only provide personal protection at most. So, again, if you have a choice to take your vaccine isn't it all you need?

It’s not either or. Vaccines reduce transmission even when they don’t prevent it entirely. I think you know that.

Are you trying to bully me into "knowing that" (e.g. agreeing with you)? No, I don't know that. There is enough room for reasonable doubt especially after the Covid "asymptomatic" spread lockdowns.

[Anonymous]

Can someone please explain why RFK wants to sell a product that kills people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We would meltdown because this is insane. You are ok with kids dying from drinking raw milk?

Good God you people are hopelessly brainwashed. Humans have consumed "raw milk" for...hundreds of thousands of years.

We’re should bring back blood letting too.

Raw milk is still perfectly legal in many countries, like France for instance. We have garbage food supply, allow salmonella in chicken still, ridiculous additives which are banned in other countries. Our rules are messed up.

It's legal in France but it's also regulated, and the vast majority of milk sold in France is pasteurized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever Trumpers applaud these ludicrous picks it makes it blatantly obvious they have no concern for the country.

All the MAGA people say "liberals' heads are exploding!" and laugh or revel over the hysteria. They never commend the pick for their credentials. They are completely blind to the fact that these people are dangerous and will endanger our lives and those of our children.

Not my kids. If we need to go to Canada and pay out of pocket to vaccinate, that’s what we do. Because we can afford to. Can’t do anyth8ng about dead MAGA kids.

You realize vaccines will still be available here for anyone who wants them, right? But do continue making up dystopian scenarios to feed your delusions.
DP

PP is having a hysterical moment. Nothing said here about mass deaths and vaccines is remotely realistic. People are mentioning diseases like Typhus and Ebola which aren't a part of the standard vaccination schedule anyway. It's a freak out. Just like the stupid "winter of death" threats from Biden when uptake of Covid vaccines had declined and it became obvious that Covid unvaxxed are not going to take the shot even despite all the mandates and vaxxports and horrible denigrating propaganda from mainstream media and celebrities. While it's entirely possible that childhood vaccination schedule will be revised and it would be very easy to opt out of any vaccinations, it doesn't mean that they won't be available to those who want them or not covered by insurance.

Vaccination programs become fairly ineffective when too many people don’t take them. You know this.

If they prevent infection how are they ineffective? Your vaccine should protect you if it works.. Plus there are treatments too. Are these diseases we are over-vaccinating our kids for (no other country has so many shots) a major concern or do we have other major health concerns now?

No vaccine prevents infection 100% of the time across the entire population. But if fewer people are vaccinated, more people become sick and in turn have an opportunity to spread the sickness to others, including the people unfortunate enough to not gain sufficient immunity despite being vaccinated. More spread also means the pathogen has more opportunity to evolve and circumvent an existing vaccine.

Also, the diseases “aren’t a major” concern because we’re vaccinating. If we stop, they’ll become a major concern again.

Do you believe vaccinated can transmit asymptomatically? Because this is what we were conditioned to accept during Covid times. If you are doubting effectiveness of any vaccine to stop infection then you admit that vaccinated can also transmit and infect others, and this means that they only provide personal protection at most. So, again, if you have a choice to take your vaccine isn't it all you need?

It’s not either or. Vaccines reduce transmission even when they don’t prevent it entirely. I think you know that.

Are you trying to bully me into "knowing that" (e.g. agreeing with you)? No, I don't know that. There is enough room for reasonable doubt especially after the Covid "asymptomatic" spread lockdowns.

NP here. Clearly, you don't know much. Please pick up a science textbook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever Trumpers applaud these ludicrous picks it makes it blatantly obvious they have no concern for the country.

All the MAGA people say "liberals' heads are exploding!" and laugh or revel over the hysteria. They never commend the pick for their credentials. They are completely blind to the fact that these people are dangerous and will endanger our lives and those of our children.

Not my kids. If we need to go to Canada and pay out of pocket to vaccinate, that’s what we do. Because we can afford to. Can’t do anyth8ng about dead MAGA kids.

You realize vaccines will still be available here for anyone who wants them, right? But do continue making up dystopian scenarios to feed your delusions.
DP

PP is having a hysterical moment. Nothing said here about mass deaths and vaccines is remotely realistic. People are mentioning diseases like Typhus and Ebola which aren't a part of the standard vaccination schedule anyway. It's a freak out. Just like the stupid "winter of death" threats from Biden when uptake of Covid vaccines had declined and it became obvious that Covid unvaxxed are not going to take the shot even despite all the mandates and vaxxports and horrible denigrating propaganda from mainstream media and celebrities. While it's entirely possible that childhood vaccination schedule will be revised and it would be very easy to opt out of any vaccinations, it doesn't mean that they won't be available to those who want them or not covered by insurance.

Vaccination programs become fairly ineffective when too many people don’t take them. You know this.

If they prevent infection how are they ineffective? Your vaccine should protect you if it works.. Plus there are treatments too. Are these diseases we are over-vaccinating our kids for (no other country has so many shots) a major concern or do we have other major health concerns now?

No vaccine prevents infection 100% of the time across the entire population. But if fewer people are vaccinated, more people become sick and in turn have an opportunity to spread the sickness to others, including the people unfortunate enough to not gain sufficient immunity despite being vaccinated. More spread also means the pathogen has more opportunity to evolve and circumvent an existing vaccine.

Also, the diseases “aren’t a major” concern because we’re vaccinating. If we stop, they’ll become a major concern again.

Do you believe vaccinated can transmit asymptomatically? Because this is what we were conditioned to accept during Covid times. If you are doubting effectiveness of any vaccine to stop infection then you admit that vaccinated can also transmit and infect others, and this means that they only provide personal protection at most. So, again, if you have a choice to take your vaccine isn't it all you need?

It’s not either or. Vaccines reduce transmission even when they don’t prevent it entirely. I think you know that.

Are you trying to bully me into "knowing that" (e.g. agreeing with you)? No, I don't know that. There is enough room for reasonable doubt especially after the Covid "asymptomatic" spread lockdowns.

Well, regardless of what you knew before, I’ve explained it to you. So now you do know. More importantly, it’s true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why RFK wants to sell a product that kills people?

Billions are dollars are spent every year on products that kill people…

[Anonymous]

Here are facts, real unadulterated numbers that basically go against everything the nonvaxers, antipharma, no-fluoride raw milk drinking posters seem to be overlooking, the average life expectancy in the United States per decade from 1820

• 1820s-1830s: ~35-40 years
• 1840s-1850s: ~40 years (increased due to public health measures)
• 1860s-1880s: ~45 years
• 1900s: ~47-50 years
• 1920s: ~55-60 years
• 1940s: ~65 years
• 1960s: ~70 years (medical advancements)
• 1980s: ~74 years
• 2000s: ~77 years
• 2020s: ~79 years

How do you explain these number? Why are we living longer?

Perhaps the “increases” in cancer and other illnesses/diseases is just a signal of advancement in the medical field, identification/diagnosis and detection. Why turn to some sinister conspiracy. I’m not saying that there isn’t serious room for improvement but thinking that the big bad government is poisoning you on purpose and that some anti science conspiracy theorist is some how going to save you is not rational.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can still get whatever meds are approved by the FDA, you just may not be required to take them. Work with your medical doctor and decide for yourself what is best for you.

Do you think the average physician in private practice knows how to evaluate clinical trials? Search the scientific literature? Has time to stay abreast of research on each patient’s problem ?

If you do, you are a fool.

We need people who spend their careers doing this. Not people who spend fifteen minutes of time examining each of thirty people a day , five days a week.

I've been working in clinical research for 25 years. The average person does NOT go to PubMed and look at peer reviewed literature, rather they google what they think might be true and find a random person that agrees with them, and they take it as fact.

This is the problem. Then you get the uneducated SAHM saying that her “research” indicates that vaccines are bad and they believe her.

Excuse me - “uneducated SAHM”? I’m a SAHM with a master’s and my SAHM friends all have at least a BA, and usually more. Your gross stereotyping is noted, though (as usual). Any concerns about the uneducated inner-city denizens who make up your base?
DP

If you and your SAHM friends are educated, then I presume you get your kids vaccinated on schedule. Good. The poster was referring to the legions of uneducated SAHMs who do not vaccinate their kids because they can't differentiate between real science and quack science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why RFK wants to sell a product that kills people?

Billions are dollars are spent every year on products that kill people…

So why is RFK supporting selling one that kills more people? He says he is upset about increasing mortality. How does that make sense?

[Anonymous]

I’m fascinated by all the MAGAs who claim to hate Big Government getting so excited over RFK banning unhealthy foods. I’m old enough to remember the Fox News freak out when Michele Obama dared to try to convince schools to serve healthy lunches.