I’m a Wash. U. alum. It’s fun to see Wash. U. do well on these lists, but any list where Case Western, Rochester, Tulane and Brandeis rank so much lower seems odd. It’s also hard to trust a list that sets UC Merced over Wash. U. or Wash. U. over the University of Chicago. |
There is actually zero mental gymnastics. It’s all from mathematical formulas based on quantitative data. |
Lehigh made both lists. USNEWS 47, WSJ 15 |
This isn't a list to brag about. San Jose State is ranked 16 on wsj this year but 173 last year. Emory was 38 last year but 103 this year. There's nothing a school can do to rise 150 spots other than the ranking being completely different. |
They didn’t include any of the LACs. Someone earlier posted that Claremont McKenna, Davidson, and Harvey Mudd are in the top 20 of both the WSJ and USNWR LACs lists. You could lookup the lists and extend that analysis to the overlap of the top 50. |
It’s very hard to take these rankings seriously anymore or put much credence into them when there are extreme fluctuations from year to year. The schools have not changed that much over the course of one year but clearly the methodology has. It’s impossible to make sense of these lists, this one especially seems all over the map. |
But someone could have entered the data wrong, and there could be problems with the data. The number crunchers could have used zeroes in place of missing data or pre-COVID-year data to replace missing evidence COVID data. I can understand why Bentley might have a high rank on a WSJ list, but Rochester just isn’t that different from Wash. U. |
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It’s trash. 100% acceptance rate schools in the Top 20, sub-10% acceptance rates not even in the Top 250, the most applied to school in the country not even in the Top 50?
Commendable clickbait, but nothing more. The authors get a solid A- for getting people upset, but expelled immediately if their goal was to actually rearrange the academic paradigm. |
| I like the idea of looking at alumni salaries. These are understandably important metrics for most people. However, I noticed that when you sort the list by salary, it jumps all over the place. There isn't a good correlation between the ranking and the salary metric. Which is interesting because from the desperate way some parents talk about college admissions, you'd think their kids will end up destitute unless they get into a t25/t50 school. These metrics should reassure everyone that the school brand doesn't have that much of an effect on financial attainment. |
That’s ridiculous. The data isn’t pre-Covid or entered wrong. Perhaps you don’t agree with how the data was collected but it was the same way across all schools. |
| Makes sense. NYU, Wake, Emory, Northeastern, Georgia, Florida, Northwestern, UCSB are definitely way below UC Merced and San Jose State. Everyone with a brain knows this. |
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Here’s the LAC top 50 overlap with USNWR:
Claremont McKenna Davidson Harvey Mudd Colgate Swarthmore Washington and Lee |
San Jose State has proven to have excellent results as long as you plan to work in SV…of course tons of people want to work in SV so not an issue. I imagine that in fact it is a much better feeder into SV than NYU, Emory, Georgia, Wake, Florida, etc. However…it’s not going to do much for you nationally. |
+1000 Exactly. There is no way someone so very troubled and triggered by these rankings didn’t immediately look up his/her own kids’ schools. It’s comical that PP pretends otherwise. |
DP. Do you know what “NP” (and DP) mean? It is you who is confusing posters. And anyone participating on this thread has obviously looked up their own kids’ schools. |