WSJ Rankings 2025

[Anonymous]

I didn’t even know that uva was a good school. I would not know the difference between Ohio state or UVA.

People don’t go down to 50 on some paper list before the internet. I have no idea what ranking W&M is now either. I was looking at T20 back in the nineties. I have one kid in high school and he is also looking at T20 schools. UVA is the bottom of his list.

There is no reason for pp and others to get so bothered by people who don’t know about W&M. Many people also don’t know William, Swarthmore, Pomona, Claremont McKenna and other smaller excellent schools.

So UVA was T20 in the mid 90s... https://publicuniversityhonors.com/2017/09/13/u-s-news-rankings-for-57-leading-universities-1983-2007/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I didn’t even know that uva was a good school. I would not know the difference between Ohio state or UVA.

People don’t go down to 50 on some paper list before the internet. I have no idea what ranking W&M is now either. I was looking at T20 back in the nineties. I have one kid in high school and he is also looking at T20 schools. UVA is the bottom of his list.

There is no reason for pp and others to get so bothered by people who don’t know about W&M. Many people also don’t know William, Swarthmore, Pomona, Claremont McKenna and other smaller excellent schools.

So UVA was T20 in the mid 90s... https://publicuniversityhonors.com/2017/09/13/u-s-news-rankings-for-57-leading-universities-1983-2007/


Plenty of intelligent people know that Williams, Swarthmore, Pomona, CMC, Bates, Colby, Wesleyan, Haverford…I could go on…exist as colleges.

It’s really a weird flex that people brag about their stupidity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I didn’t even know that uva was a good school. I would not know the difference between Ohio state or UVA.

People don’t go down to 50 on some paper list before the internet. I have no idea what ranking W&M is now either. I was looking at T20 back in the nineties. I have one kid in high school and he is also looking at T20 schools. UVA is the bottom of his list.

There is no reason for pp and others to get so bothered by people who don’t know about W&M. Many people also don’t know William, Swarthmore, Pomona, Claremont McKenna and other smaller excellent schools.

So UVA was T20 in the mid 90s... https://publicuniversityhonors.com/2017/09/13/u-s-news-rankings-for-57-leading-universities-1983-2007/

Plenty of intelligent people know that Williams, Swarthmore, Pomona, CMC, Bates, Colby, Wesleyan, Haverford…I could go on…exist as colleges.

It’s really a weird flex that people brag about their stupidity.

I have heard of all those colleges but not W&M. It is weird that you can’t fathom that people from the west or north didn’t know about VA’s schools. I wasn’t looking at any large state schools and I definitely was not looking for a small state school either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WM was well known at my rural high school in the 80s in DE. I knew about it just from reading history books. Maybe watch more Jeopardy? "William & Mary has been a clue or answer more than 70 times during regular play rounds — including six times as a Daily Double clue."

+1

and it's always been in a clash with Harvard about getting the 'first university in the US' title. It was the first college to become a university.

Anyone savvy about colleges has heard of it. My lord! We heard of it in the Midwest in the 80s.

The College of William & Mary calls itself "the second-oldest institution of higher learning in the country", acknowledging Harvard's claim but adding that: "Harvard may have opened first, but William & Mary was already planned. Original 1619 plans for W&M called for a campus at Henrico." This refers to the College of Henricopolis or University of Henrico established by the Virginia Company near Richmond, Virginia. With respect to the title of first university in America, it makes the claim on its website that "in 1781, by uniting the faculties of law, medicine, and the arts, William & Mary became America's first true university."[ It also is the "First institution of higher education to have a law school, which made us the first college in the country to become a university (1779)".

Harvard, William and Mary, and Yale were organized on the plans of the English colleges which constitute the universities of Oxford and Cambridge.

VT is more prestigious than run down W&M

Concur. We took DC to both VT and W&M (and other colleges) during college tours, and DC's first words about W&M were that it looked 'run down.'

[Anonymous]

It’s the most expensive public in the entire US

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s the most expensive public in the entire US

Are you talking about W&M?

I have heard of schools like Dickinson, Colby and Bates but not sure how prestigious or selective they are. I heard of Middlebury recently only because another parent said she would never get in today. I’m not sure how these schools compare to W&M.

Then there are schools like Wake Forest or Tulane. I have heard of them and also not sure where they fall. I am very familiar with Boston schools and still not sure how Northeastern seems to have become a favorite.

[Anonymous]

William and Mary no longer run down if you haven't been there in a few years. Beautiful new buildings and dorms.

[Anonymous]

It's refreshing to see W&M and UVA boosters going at it. Prior to that the board was infected with BU v NEU v Tufts spats, and Emory v the world rumbles!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never heard of William & Mary? Don't you people have radios that play Steely Dan songs?

Or maybe you did and took it literally?

That line does not refer to the college smh

I believe it does, but only because the school's name had a nice cadence for the song.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I didn’t even know that uva was a good school. I would not know the difference between Ohio state or UVA.

People don’t go down to 50 on some paper list before the internet. I have no idea what ranking W&M is now either. I was looking at T20 back in the nineties. I have one kid in high school and he is also looking at T20 schools. UVA is the bottom of his list.

There is no reason for pp and others to get so bothered by people who don’t know about W&M. Many people also don’t know William, Swarthmore, Pomona, Claremont McKenna and other smaller excellent schools.

So UVA was T20 in the mid 90s... https://publicuniversityhonors.com/2017/09/13/u-s-news-rankings-for-57-leading-universities-1983-2007/

Plenty of intelligent people know that Williams, Swarthmore, Pomona, CMC, Bates, Colby, Wesleyan, Haverford…I could go on…exist as colleges.

It’s really a weird flex that people brag about their stupidity.
NP. Jesus. Take it easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WM was well known at my rural high school in the 80s in DE. I knew about it just from reading history books. Maybe watch more Jeopardy? "William & Mary has been a clue or answer more than 70 times during regular play rounds — including six times as a Daily Double clue."

+1

and it's always been in a clash with Harvard about getting the 'first university in the US' title. It was the first college to become a university.

Anyone savvy about colleges has heard of it. My lord! We heard of it in the Midwest in the 80s.

The College of William & Mary calls itself "the second-oldest institution of higher learning in the country", acknowledging Harvard's claim but adding that: "Harvard may have opened first, but William & Mary was already planned. Original 1619 plans for W&M called for a campus at Henrico." This refers to the College of Henricopolis or University of Henrico established by the Virginia Company near Richmond, Virginia. With respect to the title of first university in America, it makes the claim on its website that "in 1781, by uniting the faculties of law, medicine, and the arts, William & Mary became America's first true university."[ It also is the "First institution of higher education to have a law school, which made us the first college in the country to become a university (1779)".

Harvard, William and Mary, and Yale were organized on the plans of the English colleges which constitute the universities of Oxford and Cambridge.

VT is more prestigious than run down W&M

Concur. We took DC to both VT and W&M (and other colleges) during college tours, and DC's first words about W&M were that it looked 'run down.'

I was at W&M in August, and I disagree.

[Anonymous]

VA college rankings by various categories....

[Anonymous]

Surprised this thread is going on so long. The WSJ methodology is deeply flawed because the outcome measures don’t adjust for cost of living differences, which matters as most schools have geographic skewing for where grads end up. It’s one reason why there are so many goofy surprises. Same with Forbes and Niche. Wait for USNWR. Or use Princeton Review. Or Fiske. The newer guides are just using what the older ones knew to avoid because they have to be different to sell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this thread is going on so long. The WSJ methodology is deeply flawed because the outcome measures don’t adjust for cost of living differences, which matters as most schools have geographic skewing for where grads end up. It’s one reason why there are so many goofy surprises. Same with Forbes and Niche. Wait for USNWR. Or use Princeton Review. Or Fiske. The newer guides are just using what the older ones knew to avoid because they have to be different to sell.

Would not this be covered by "net cost" which is what they're using as basis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprised this thread is going on so long. The WSJ methodology is deeply flawed because the outcome measures don’t adjust for cost of living differences, which matters as most schools have geographic skewing for where grads end up. It’s one reason why there are so many goofy surprises. Same with Forbes and Niche. Wait for USNWR. Or use Princeton Review. Or Fiske. The newer guides are just using what the older ones knew to avoid because they have to be different to sell.

Would not this be covered by "net cost" which is what they're using as basis?

PP here, sorry, didn't read that part where you said "where grads end up" so that is a valid point.