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Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Not true. The Dunn Loring school project is saving FCPS millions by using existing FCPS property. I don't know who you're talking to when you say nobody wants it, but if you talk to my neighbors, they will all tell you it is desperately needed. You must be thinking of the Blake Lane school project which was thankfully cancelled due to widespread opposition from the community.

This is utter nonsense. The only people I know who support this school are Karl, Karl’s cronies, and some people whose kids could walk to a new school in Dunn Loring.

On the other hand, people at Shrevewood know it will delay any boundary change there for years, people who know they’ll be left at Stenwood and Freedom Hill know those schools will end up shells of their current schools, it creates uncertainty for families at Bienna and Cunningham Park, and people in Tysons at Spring Hill know that, rather than ever being able to send their kids to an ES in Tysons, their kids will probably get bounced from Spring Hill to another school as part of the unnecessary cascading boundary changes.

Any suggestion to the contrary is just Frisch continuing to put lipstick on his pig - especially up through the election.

You must be only talking to Republicans.

It’s not a party-line issue.

Republicans on this website only complain about the school because they hate Frisch. Talk to parents and they support the new school being built.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Not true. The Dunn Loring school project is saving FCPS millions by using existing FCPS property. I don't know who you're talking to when you say nobody wants it, but if you talk to my neighbors, they will all tell you it is desperately needed. You must be thinking of the Blake Lane school project which was thankfully cancelled due to widespread opposition from the community.

This is utter nonsense. The only people I know who support this school are Karl, Karl’s cronies, and some people whose kids could walk to a new school in Dunn Loring.

On the other hand, people at Shrevewood know it will delay any boundary change there for years, people who know they’ll be left at Stenwood and Freedom Hill know those schools will end up shells of their current schools, it creates uncertainty for families at Bienna and Cunningham Park, and people in Tysons at Spring Hill know that, rather than ever being able to send their kids to an ES in Tysons, their kids will probably get bounced from Spring Hill to another school as part of the unnecessary cascading boundary changes.

Any suggestion to the contrary is just Frisch continuing to put lipstick on his pig - especially up through the election.

You must be only talking to Republicans.

It’s not a party-line issue.

Republicans on this website only complain about the school because they hate Frisch. Talk to parents and they support the new school being built.

You are such a total bullshitter, Karl. It is very hard to respect you or your core supporters at all. You lie constantly and, when challenged, only double down with more lies.

And just remember that when the next recall petitions get filed, which seems inevitable given how you deal with your constituents, it won’t be Mark Herring overseeing their disposition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

Where? Are they buildable for schools? There are environmental restrictions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Not true. The Dunn Loring school project is saving FCPS millions by using existing FCPS property. I don't know who you're talking to when you say nobody wants it, but if you talk to my neighbors, they will all tell you it is desperately needed. You must be thinking of the Blake Lane school project which was thankfully cancelled due to widespread opposition from the community.

This is utter nonsense. The only people I know who support this school are Karl, Karl’s cronies, and some people whose kids could walk to a new school in Dunn Loring.

On the other hand, people at Shrevewood know it will delay any boundary change there for years, people who know they’ll be left at Stenwood and Freedom Hill know those schools will end up shells of their current schools, it creates uncertainty for families at Bienna and Cunningham Park, and people in Tysons at Spring Hill know that, rather than ever being able to send their kids to an ES in Tysons, their kids will probably get bounced from Spring Hill to another school as part of the unnecessary cascading boundary changes.

Any suggestion to the contrary is just Frisch continuing to put lipstick on his pig - especially up through the election.

You must be only talking to Republicans.

It’s not a party-line issue.

Republicans on this website only complain about the school because they hate Frisch. Talk to parents and they support the new school being built.

+ or they HATE dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

Where? Are they buildable for schools? There are environmental restrictions.

+1. WHERE ARE THESE ALTERNATIVE SITES?

No doubt they would be much more expensive than Dunn Loring, which is an existing FCPS property.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Not true. The Dunn Loring school project is saving FCPS millions by using existing FCPS property. I don't know who you're talking to when you say nobody wants it, but if you talk to my neighbors, they will all tell you it is desperately needed. You must be thinking of the Blake Lane school project which was thankfully cancelled due to widespread opposition from the community.

This is utter nonsense. The only people I know who support this school are Karl, Karl’s cronies, and some people whose kids could walk to a new school in Dunn Loring.

On the other hand, people at Shrevewood know it will delay any boundary change there for years, people who know they’ll be left at Stenwood and Freedom Hill know those schools will end up shells of their current schools, it creates uncertainty for families at Bienna and Cunningham Park, and people in Tysons at Spring Hill know that, rather than ever being able to send their kids to an ES in Tysons, their kids will probably get bounced from Spring Hill to another school as part of the unnecessary cascading boundary changes.

Any suggestion to the contrary is just Frisch continuing to put lipstick on his pig - especially up through the election.

You must be only talking to Republicans.

It’s not a party-line issue.

Republicans on this website only complain about the school because they hate Frisch. Talk to parents and they support the new school being built.

+ or they HATE dogs.

Probably!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

"Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table."

You must've just moved to Fairfax County. Let me give you a history lesson.

For years, the residents of neighborhoods around Blake Lane protested the proposed building of a school there. They had concerns about traffic, about taking away greenspace and their only park, and building a school that just wasn't needed. They signed petitions with over 1k signatures, mobilized hundreds of people to attend board meetings, public hearings, and spoke at every opportounity. They even had rallies and invited every candidate and their mother in 2019. This is well documented. So the elected officials listened and scrapped the project. They would be stupid to keep moving forward on a project so unpopular!

But Fairfax voters approved the bond! And Providence isn't going to give up our spot in the bond cycle, so Frisch looked for other areas in the district that will need a new ES in the next decade and here comes Dunn Loring. And bonus: we already have a property there! This saves probably tens of millions of dollars by not having to buy new property.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

"Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table."

You must've just moved to Fairfax County. Let me give you a history lesson.

For years, the residents of neighborhoods around Blake Lane protested the proposed building of a school there. They had concerns about traffic, about taking away greenspace and their only park, and building a school that just wasn't needed. They signed petitions with over 1k signatures, mobilized hundreds of people to attend board meetings, public hearings, and spoke at every opportounity. They even had rallies and invited every candidate and their mother in 2019. This is well documented. So the elected officials listened and scrapped the project. They would be stupid to keep moving forward on a project so unpopular!

But Fairfax voters approved the bond! And Providence isn't going to give up our spot in the bond cycle, so Frisch looked for other areas in the district that will need a new ES in the next decade and here comes Dunn Loring. And bonus: we already have a property there! This saves probably tens of millions of dollars by not having to buy new property.

So much bullshit.

“Providence” doesn’t get earmarked funds. Particular projects get described and then those descriptions either get honored or not.

In the case of Blake Lane, there were enough grumblings about the site that it was described as a “Fairfax/Oakton” site in both the 2017 and 2019 bond materials.

The Dunn Loring site wasn’t described in either the 2017 or 2019 bond materials. It was mentioned in the back of several CIPs as one of many long-term development options for FCPS, should the need arise, along with properties Pimmit Hills and Tysons.

When Frisch decided to kill off BLP for good, he didn’t find a way to get another “Fairfax/Oakton” school built, consistent with the bond documents. He instead latched onto Dunn Loring, which otherwise had been completely on the back burner, and is an inferior site for many reasons (surrounded by multiple under-enrolled schools, and not in an area expecting much growth). Long-term projections if everything in the pipeline for Shrevewood gets approved and built add only 15 more kids. For Stenwood, it’s 1 kid. For Cunningham Park and Vienna, it’s 0 kids. Freedom Hill is the outlier, with a potential addition of 43 kids, but that pales in comparison with other schools further north and east.

The Tysons site is in Providence so Karl could have pursued that - which would have used the money there and been consistent with the Board of Supervisors plans for Tysons - but he was too lazy to do that. Or he could have agreed with Elaine Tholen to spend the money at Pimmit Hills, which is in Dranesville but feeds into a MS and HS in Providence (Kilmer and Marshall). Again, Karl dropped the ball.

So instead he’s pushing a school at Dunn Loring, which is the wrong school in the wrong location. It will completely screw up boundaries and inconvenience families for years to come if built. And he’s such a preening narcissist that he has no capacity to acknowledge it’s an ill-hatched scheme.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

"Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table."

You must've just moved to Fairfax County. Let me give you a history lesson.

For years, the residents of neighborhoods around Blake Lane protested the proposed building of a school there. They had concerns about traffic, about taking away greenspace and their only park, and building a school that just wasn't needed. They signed petitions with over 1k signatures, mobilized hundreds of people to attend board meetings, public hearings, and spoke at every opportounity. They even had rallies and invited every candidate and their mother in 2019. This is well documented. So the elected officials listened and scrapped the project. They would be stupid to keep moving forward on a project so unpopular!

But Fairfax voters approved the bond! And Providence isn't going to give up our spot in the bond cycle, so Frisch looked for other areas in the district that will need a new ES in the next decade and here comes Dunn Loring. And bonus: we already have a property there! This saves probably tens of millions of dollars by not having to buy new property.

So much bullshit.

“Providence” doesn’t get earmarked funds. Particular projects get described and then those descriptions either get honored or not.

In the case of Blake Lane, there were enough grumblings about the site that it was described as a “Fairfax/Oakton” site in both the 2017 and 2019 bond materials.

The Dunn Loring site wasn’t described in either the 2017 or 2019 bond materials. It was mentioned in the back of several CIPs as one of many long-term development options for FCPS, should the need arise, along with properties Pimmit Hills and Tysons.

When Frisch decided to kill off BLP for good, he didn’t find a way to get another “Fairfax/Oakton” school built, consistent with the bond documents. He instead latched onto Dunn Loring, which otherwise had been completely on the back burner, and is an inferior site for many reasons (surrounded by multiple under-enrolled schools, and not in an area expecting much growth). Long-term projections if everything in the pipeline for Shrevewood gets approved and built add only 15 more kids. For Stenwood, it’s 1 kid. For Cunningham Park and Vienna, it’s 0 kids. Freedom Hill is the outlier, with a potential addition of 43 kids, but that pales in comparison with other schools further north and east.

The Tysons site is in Providence so Karl could have pursued that - which would have used the money there and been consistent with the Board of Supervisors plans for Tysons - but he was too lazy to do that. Or he could have agreed with Elaine Tholen to spend the money at Pimmit Hills, which is in Dranesville but feeds into a MS and HS in Providence (Kilmer and Marshall). Again, Karl dropped the ball.

So instead he’s pushing a school at Dunn Loring, which is the wrong school in the wrong location. It will completely screw up boundaries and inconvenience families for years to come if built. And he’s such a preening narcissist that he has no capacity to acknowledge it’s an ill-hatched scheme.

Weird how you won't share the sites.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

"Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table."

You must've just moved to Fairfax County. Let me give you a history lesson.

For years, the residents of neighborhoods around Blake Lane protested the proposed building of a school there. They had concerns about traffic, about taking away greenspace and their only park, and building a school that just wasn't needed. They signed petitions with over 1k signatures, mobilized hundreds of people to attend board meetings, public hearings, and spoke at every opportounity. They even had rallies and invited every candidate and their mother in 2019. This is well documented. So the elected officials listened and scrapped the project. They would be stupid to keep moving forward on a project so unpopular!

But Fairfax voters approved the bond! And Providence isn't going to give up our spot in the bond cycle, so Frisch looked for other areas in the district that will need a new ES in the next decade and here comes Dunn Loring. And bonus: we already have a property there! This saves probably tens of millions of dollars by not having to buy new property.

So much bullshit.

“Providence” doesn’t get earmarked funds. Particular projects get described and then those descriptions either get honored or not.

In the case of Blake Lane, there were enough grumblings about the site that it was described as a “Fairfax/Oakton” site in both the 2017 and 2019 bond materials.

The Dunn Loring site wasn’t described in either the 2017 or 2019 bond materials. It was mentioned in the back of several CIPs as one of many long-term development options for FCPS, should the need arise, along with properties Pimmit Hills and Tysons.

When Frisch decided to kill off BLP for good, he didn’t find a way to get another “Fairfax/Oakton” school built, consistent with the bond documents. He instead latched onto Dunn Loring, which otherwise had been completely on the back burner, and is an inferior site for many reasons (surrounded by multiple under-enrolled schools, and not in an area expecting much growth). Long-term projections if everything in the pipeline for Shrevewood gets approved and built add only 15 more kids. For Stenwood, it’s 1 kid. For Cunningham Park and Vienna, it’s 0 kids. Freedom Hill is the outlier, with a potential addition of 43 kids, but that pales in comparison with other schools further north and east.

The Tysons site is in Providence so Karl could have pursued that - which would have used the money there and been consistent with the Board of Supervisors plans for Tysons - but he was too lazy to do that. Or he could have agreed with Elaine Tholen to spend the money at Pimmit Hills, which is in Dranesville but feeds into a MS and HS in Providence (Kilmer and Marshall). Again, Karl dropped the ball.

So instead he’s pushing a school at Dunn Loring, which is the wrong school in the wrong location. It will completely screw up boundaries and inconvenience families for years to come if built. And he’s such a preening narcissist that he has no capacity to acknowledge it’s an ill-hatched scheme.

Weird how you won't share the sites.

Weird how you didn’t ask before if you were so challenged.

You can find references at pp. 47, 48, 218, 270, and 272 of the latest CIP.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

"Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table."

You must've just moved to Fairfax County. Let me give you a history lesson.

For years, the residents of neighborhoods around Blake Lane protested the proposed building of a school there. They had concerns about traffic, about taking away greenspace and their only park, and building a school that just wasn't needed. They signed petitions with over 1k signatures, mobilized hundreds of people to attend board meetings, public hearings, and spoke at every opportounity. They even had rallies and invited every candidate and their mother in 2019. This is well documented. So the elected officials listened and scrapped the project. They would be stupid to keep moving forward on a project so unpopular!

But Fairfax voters approved the bond! And Providence isn't going to give up our spot in the bond cycle, so Frisch looked for other areas in the district that will need a new ES in the next decade and here comes Dunn Loring. And bonus: we already have a property there! This saves probably tens of millions of dollars by not having to buy new property.

So much bullshit.

“Providence” doesn’t get earmarked funds. Particular projects get described and then those descriptions either get honored or not.

In the case of Blake Lane, there were enough grumblings about the site that it was described as a “Fairfax/Oakton” site in both the 2017 and 2019 bond materials.

The Dunn Loring site wasn’t described in either the 2017 or 2019 bond materials. It was mentioned in the back of several CIPs as one of many long-term development options for FCPS, should the need arise, along with properties Pimmit Hills and Tysons.

When Frisch decided to kill off BLP for good, he didn’t find a way to get another “Fairfax/Oakton” school built, consistent with the bond documents. He instead latched onto Dunn Loring, which otherwise had been completely on the back burner, and is an inferior site for many reasons (surrounded by multiple under-enrolled schools, and not in an area expecting much growth). Long-term projections if everything in the pipeline for Shrevewood gets approved and built add only 15 more kids. For Stenwood, it’s 1 kid. For Cunningham Park and Vienna, it’s 0 kids. Freedom Hill is the outlier, with a potential addition of 43 kids, but that pales in comparison with other schools further north and east.

The Tysons site is in Providence so Karl could have pursued that - which would have used the money there and been consistent with the Board of Supervisors plans for Tysons - but he was too lazy to do that. Or he could have agreed with Elaine Tholen to spend the money at Pimmit Hills, which is in Dranesville but feeds into a MS and HS in Providence (Kilmer and Marshall). Again, Karl dropped the ball.

So instead he’s pushing a school at Dunn Loring, which is the wrong school in the wrong location. It will completely screw up boundaries and inconvenience families for years to come if built. And he’s such a preening narcissist that he has no capacity to acknowledge it’s an ill-hatched scheme.

Weird how you won't share the sites.

Weird how you didn’t ask before if you were so challenged.

You can find references at pp. 47, 48, 218, 270, and 272 of the latest CIP.

Multiple people have asked a few times.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the people in the Providence District vote to ensure my tax dollars go to education and not dog parks upgrades.

Agree completely.

Frisch has directly cost FCPS over $60,000,000 (sixty MILLION DOLLARS) in wasted money on an unneeded new elementary school no one wants.

Frisch has spearheaded millions more in waste through “school renamings” which cost $500,000 to $1,000,000 each (yes- it does cost $1 million to rename a school).

Altogether, Karl has likely wasted well over one hundred million dollars during his short (but destructive) time on the Board. That is SERIOUS money wasted, at a time when we are losing massive numbers of teachers and our children are suffering - all because of Karl.

Karl needs to be voted off the board at any cost.

Sorry, anyone who is looking at the capacity projections and new residential buildings in development can see that a new school is needed.

And FCPS should absolutely remove the names of American traitors. Disgusting that they were ever used in the first place.

If and when a new school is needed, it’s not needed in Vienna. FCPS has options on sites in Pimmit Hills and Tysons, and both would have been far better than Gallows/Idylwood.

Karl sucked in people but suggesting we’d save money by returning the charming old Dunn Loring building to use, only for FCPS to quickly announce that wasn’t feasible and the only viable option for a new school at the Dunn Loring site was a complete teardown. So if a new school gets built there, we’ll incur both short-term costs (demolition and new construction), a lot of angst (massive boundary changes to backfill a school that is surrounded by under-enrolled schools), and higher recurring costs (as kids outside of the immediate area near Dunn Loring will get bussed further from their residences to attend other schools).

I might have some respect for Frisch if he said we need to hit the pause button and decide whether, on reflection, other sites make more sense). But he doesn’t want to admit he wasn’t as clever as he thought, or acted rashly. So we’re just left with a complete shit-show in the making, and the knowledge that, by the time things really blow up, Frisch will have already tried to get elected to a different office so he’s not picking up the pieces.

Where? Gallows/Idylwood is very close to Tysons.

There are thousands of new residential units under development.

Gallows/Idylwood is in Vienna. It’s not where the new development is concentrated. That development is further north and east.

If constructed, it will be an unnecessary school in a sub-optimal location that will prove both expensive and disruptive.

Where would you rather the school be built? You haven't yet said that.

FCPS has options at the Pimmit Hills site (which would allow all of PH to attend a single ES school again) as well as in Tysons off Jones Branch (much closer to where the bulk of the new development is occurring).

The other issue is that FCPS has more of a capacity issue at multiple HS than at the ES level now.

There’s simply no compelling need to rush forward with an ES at the Dunn Loring site now. Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table, not to address any immediate capacity crisis at the ES level in Providence. That’s readily apparent by how slow the progress has been at the Dunn Loring site.

After the election the sensible thing would be to rethink the project and/or location entirely. Even if FCPS had to eat the money already paid to the architects that’s still a better outcome than building that school at that location.

"Frisch’s goal was always to take BLP off the table."

You must've just moved to Fairfax County. Let me give you a history lesson.

For years, the residents of neighborhoods around Blake Lane protested the proposed building of a school there. They had concerns about traffic, about taking away greenspace and their only park, and building a school that just wasn't needed. They signed petitions with over 1k signatures, mobilized hundreds of people to attend board meetings, public hearings, and spoke at every opportounity. They even had rallies and invited every candidate and their mother in 2019. This is well documented. So the elected officials listened and scrapped the project. They would be stupid to keep moving forward on a project so unpopular!

But Fairfax voters approved the bond! And Providence isn't going to give up our spot in the bond cycle, so Frisch looked for other areas in the district that will need a new ES in the next decade and here comes Dunn Loring. And bonus: we already have a property there! This saves probably tens of millions of dollars by not having to buy new property.

So much bullshit.

“Providence” doesn’t get earmarked funds. Particular projects get described and then those descriptions either get honored or not.

In the case of Blake Lane, there were enough grumblings about the site that it was described as a “Fairfax/Oakton” site in both the 2017 and 2019 bond materials.

The Dunn Loring site wasn’t described in either the 2017 or 2019 bond materials. It was mentioned in the back of several CIPs as one of many long-term development options for FCPS, should the need arise, along with properties Pimmit Hills and Tysons.

When Frisch decided to kill off BLP for good, he didn’t find a way to get another “Fairfax/Oakton” school built, consistent with the bond documents. He instead latched onto Dunn Loring, which otherwise had been completely on the back burner, and is an inferior site for many reasons (surrounded by multiple under-enrolled schools, and not in an area expecting much growth). Long-term projections if everything in the pipeline for Shrevewood gets approved and built add only 15 more kids. For Stenwood, it’s 1 kid. For Cunningham Park and Vienna, it’s 0 kids. Freedom Hill is the outlier, with a potential addition of 43 kids, but that pales in comparison with other schools further north and east.

The Tysons site is in Providence so Karl could have pursued that - which would have used the money there and been consistent with the Board of Supervisors plans for Tysons - but he was too lazy to do that. Or he could have agreed with Elaine Tholen to spend the money at Pimmit Hills, which is in Dranesville but feeds into a MS and HS in Providence (Kilmer and Marshall). Again, Karl dropped the ball.

So instead he’s pushing a school at Dunn Loring, which is the wrong school in the wrong location. It will completely screw up boundaries and inconvenience families for years to come if built. And he’s such a preening narcissist that he has no capacity to acknowledge it’s an ill-hatched scheme.

Where are these alternative sites in Tysons?