WJ/BCC Fight - No racism please!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If having your kids attacked, brutalized, ribbed, video taped, and mocked online while the law says "oh well. It's not equitable to prosecute people for these minor crimes" foesnt get your @sses in the voting booth, I don't know what will.

Yep. And it's hard for people to not start noticing things

Does anyone know what the actual consequences are going to be for the violent perpertrators? Are they really going to have no consequences? Do people really disagree that uninvolved students trying to learn should not be made to sit alongside these violent teenagers?

I think anybody who went toward the fight should be arrested for disorderly conduct.

Why are these kids running towards the fight. There is a girl in this thread who admitted she ran towards the fight. She needs a swift order of justices levied against her for contributing to a disorderly melee.

Swift justice for anybody who did not immediately retreat and call 911.

Agreed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If having your kids attacked, brutalized, ribbed, video taped, and mocked online while the law says "oh well. It's not equitable to prosecute people for these minor crimes" foesnt get your @sses in the voting booth, I don't know what will.

Yep. And it's hard for people to not start noticing things

Does anyone know what the actual consequences are going to be for the violent perpertrators? Are they really going to have no consequences? Do people really disagree that uninvolved students trying to learn should not be made to sit alongside these violent teenagers?

Seems like nothing, so far. It's an outrage. Parents should be organizing protests in front of school board offices. This is the only way we can affect some change, when parents start fighting back.

[Anonymous]

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We encourage parents and guardians to have conversations with their children about the inappropriate choice of violence and fighting, as well as the possible consequences. These conversations are vital in reinforcing the values we hold dear within our community.

Hey Monifa, how are we as parents supposed to have conversations with our kids about consequences for violence and fighting when you won't tell us what consequences you're doling out to the students who just did it live and in color?

Make it make sense.

Because fighting is not illegal and we don’t arrest people for doing things that are not illegal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe
they wrote "teachable moment" in the communication. It's really disrespectful to the students injured and traumatized

What's a lifelong head trauma, possible seizures and debilitating brain injury, not to mention emotional trauma and PTSD, if it makes a couple dysfunctional kids do some reflecting after they curb stomped a kid? Totally fair trade (sarcasm, if that's not obvious. Whoever wrote that phrase is sick and totally lacking in empathy)

Nobody has a debilitating brain injury.

It’s a teachable moment to not fight. Not go towards s fight. Not stay at a fight going on. Learning to walk away from a fight is a teachable moment.

Seriously? Just a fight? What kind of kid fights by kicking and pummeling someone on the ground. Being kicked in the head is not how kids fight in the schools where I've worked. They know they'll be suspended or expelled.

Yes Pollyanna 90% of fights go to the ground.

If the boy on the ground has injuries there will be a charge.

But yes, it was a fight.

A fight involves 2 people or more. That was an assault

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dr. Mooney sent another community message last night about the two investigations (by MCPS and the police). I thought the second sentence here was interesting:

“I also spoke directly to our students to recognize the impact events like this have on their feelings of personal safety and security, while also ensuring the students that the individuals who made the unacceptable choice to engage in the violence depicted on social media would be held accountable. Those who made the choice to video and post this behavior will also be held accountable as this adds to disruption and inappropriately celebrates violence.”

Without video, of course, it would be easier to sweep under the rug...

MCPS has been embarrassed and is lashing out.

The principal is right. It is truly despicable to record this type of thing and post it on social media. It is meant to humiliate and glorify violence as well as garner views. It has nothing to to with hiding anything. Some people have very twisted minds to think the principal means to hide anything when he states that kids shouldn't be recording this kind of thing and posting it on social media. Really twisted.

Both things are valid. It's awful to record someone's trauma or humiliation for the entertainment of others, but documenting this stuff also brings serious and real problems and crimes to light. So it's a double-edged sword.

I agree with this but only if the purpose of recording it is to document the event so that those who should be punished can be identified. And if that's the case, the videos would be seen by the police and school administrators first and not immediately posted on social media. I hope those who did nothing but taped the fight just so they could get "likes" are also punished. They should be. This happened at our school last year and I told DS that if he ever taped a fight instead of going to get help, he wouldn't have a phone anymore. As a parent, I would be mortified if that was my child's choice in a situation like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If having your kids attacked, brutalized, ribbed, video taped, and mocked online while the law says "oh well. It's not equitable to prosecute people for these minor crimes" foesnt get your @sses in the voting booth, I don't know what will.

Yep. And it's hard for people to not start noticing things

Does anyone know what the actual consequences are going to be for the violent perpertrators? Are they really going to have no consequences? Do people really disagree that uninvolved students trying to learn should not be made to sit alongside these violent teenagers?

Monifa says:

Available evidence has been reviewed and we can confirm at this time that appropriate disciplinary action has been applied in alignment with the MCPS Student Code of Conduct.

But it's a mystery as to what those disciplinary actions exactly are. Based on the ongoing outrage, I imagine they're probably not as severe as most people would expect or like it to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We encourage parents and guardians to have conversations with their children about the inappropriate choice of violence and fighting, as well as the possible consequences. These conversations are vital in reinforcing the values we hold dear within our community.

Hey Monifa, how are we as parents supposed to have conversations with our kids about consequences for violence and fighting when you won't tell us what consequences you're doling out to the students who just did it live and in color?

Make it make sense.

Because fighting is not illegal and we don’t arrest people for doing things that are not illegal.

Assault is. And people are arrested for fighting all the time. Chasing down random people, throwing them to the ground and stomping them in the head is not a fight. And you need to do some serious reflecting on why you're trying to normalize that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe
they wrote "teachable moment" in the communication. It's really disrespectful to the students injured and traumatized

What's a lifelong head trauma, possible seizures and debilitating brain injury, not to mention emotional trauma and PTSD, if it makes a couple dysfunctional kids do some reflecting after they curb stomped a kid? Totally fair trade (sarcasm, if that's not obvious. Whoever wrote that phrase is sick and totally lacking in empathy)

Nobody has a debilitating brain injury.

It’s a teachable moment to not fight. Not go towards s fight. Not stay at a fight going on. Learning to walk away from a fight is a teachable moment.

Seriously? Just a fight? What kind of kid fights by kicking and pummeling someone on the ground. Being kicked in the head is not how kids fight in the schools where I've worked. They know they'll be suspended or expelled.

Yes Pollyanna 90% of fights go to the ground.

If the boy on the ground has injuries there will be a charge.

But yes, it was a fight.

I'm not a Pollyanna. Read my post. I didn't say fights don't involve going to the ground. What occurred next was a violent assault. Maybe you grew up where that's how people fought.

[Anonymous]

Quote “we are writing to report on the actions taken following the recent fight that followed a high school football game ”

It was a fight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe
they wrote "teachable moment" in the communication. It's really disrespectful to the students injured and traumatized

What's a lifelong head trauma, possible seizures and debilitating brain injury, not to mention emotional trauma and PTSD, if it makes a couple dysfunctional kids do some reflecting after they curb stomped a kid? Totally fair trade (sarcasm, if that's not obvious. Whoever wrote that phrase is sick and totally lacking in empathy)

Nobody has a debilitating brain injury.

It’s a teachable moment to not fight. Not go towards s fight. Not stay at a fight going on. Learning to walk away from a fight is a teachable moment.

Seriously? Just a fight? What kind of kid fights by kicking and pummeling someone on the ground. Being kicked in the head is not how kids fight in the schools where I've worked. They know they'll be suspended or expelled.

Yes Pollyanna 90% of fights go to the ground.

If the boy on the ground has injuries there will be a charge.

But yes, it was a fight.

I'm not a Pollyanna. Read my post. I didn't say fights don't involve going to the ground. What occurred next was a violent assault. Maybe you grew up where that's how people fought.

You’re okay with punching but kicking is not okay?

Hmm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We encourage parents and guardians to have conversations with their children about the inappropriate choice of violence and fighting, as well as the possible consequences. These conversations are vital in reinforcing the values we hold dear within our community.

Hey Monifa, how are we as parents supposed to have conversations with our kids about consequences for violence and fighting when you won't tell us what consequences you're doling out to the students who just did it live and in color?

Make it make sense.

Because fighting is not illegal and we don’t arrest people for doing things that are not illegal.

Assault is. And people are arrested for fighting all the time. Chasing down random people, throwing them to the ground and stomping them in the head is not a fight. And you need to do some serious reflecting on why you're trying to normalize that

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If having your kids attacked, brutalized, ribbed, video taped, and mocked online while the law says "oh well. It's not equitable to prosecute people for these minor crimes" foesnt get your @sses in the voting booth, I don't know what will.

Yep. And it's hard for people to not start noticing things

Does anyone know what the actual consequences are going to be for the violent perpertrators? Are they really going to have no consequences? Do people really disagree that uninvolved students trying to learn should not be made to sit alongside these violent teenagers?

I think anybody who went toward the fight should be arrested for disorderly conduct.

Why are these kids running towards the fight. There is a girl in this thread who admitted she ran towards the fight. She needs a swift order of justices levied against her for contributing to a disorderly melee.

Swift justice for anybody who did not immediately retreat and call 911.

Agreed?

No. If it was my kid getting beaten I would sure as he'll want video and an attempt, at least, at intervention.
I'm over the duck and cover mentalities.. shooter? Run and hide! Gangs looting your stores? Don't intervene! Your child getting their head kicked in? Retreat! Let um finish! You're a wuss and you should be charged for taking up space in society

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

We encourage parents and guardians to have conversations with their children about the inappropriate choice of violence and fighting, as well as the possible consequences. These conversations are vital in reinforcing the values we hold dear within our community.

Hey Monifa, how are we as parents supposed to have conversations with our kids about consequences for violence and fighting when you won't tell us what consequences you're doling out to the students who just did it live and in color?

Make it make sense.

Because fighting is not illegal and we don’t arrest people for doing things that are not illegal.

What does your argument, which I won't even debate, about the supposed legality of fighting have to do with the contradictory advice McKnight is giving in telling parents to have conversations about the consequences of violence and fighting that she is refusing to name or share with parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe
they wrote "teachable moment" in the communication. It's really disrespectful to the students injured and traumatized

What's a lifelong head trauma, possible seizures and debilitating brain injury, not to mention emotional trauma and PTSD, if it makes a couple dysfunctional kids do some reflecting after they curb stomped a kid? Totally fair trade (sarcasm, if that's not obvious. Whoever wrote that phrase is sick and totally lacking in empathy)

Nobody has a debilitating brain injury.

It’s a teachable moment to not fight. Not go towards s fight. Not stay at a fight going on. Learning to walk away from a fight is a teachable moment.

Seriously? Just a fight? What kind of kid fights by kicking and pummeling someone on the ground. Being kicked in the head is not how kids fight in the schools where I've worked. They know they'll be suspended or expelled.

Yes Pollyanna 90% of fights go to the ground.

If the boy on the ground has injuries there will be a charge.

But yes, it was a fight.

I'm not a Pollyanna. Read my post. I didn't say fights don't involve going to the ground. What occurred next was a violent assault. Maybe you grew up where that's how people fought.

You’re okay with punching but kicking is not okay?

Hmm.

You're not reading. Just trying to argue. I never said punching ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Quote “we are writing to report on the actions taken following the recent fight that followed a high school football game ”

It was a fight.

That moron Monifa calling g it a fight doesn't make it a fight. It makes her a moron.