Parking no longer free on Saturdays in MoCo lots starting 7/8/23

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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


You can be the first to move to a state without education. I bet that would work out great for crime and your property values.

Common sense, this poster does not have.
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


It's pretty bold of someone who is in absolute hysterics about being charged for parking in county-owned garages to call other people dense.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


It's pretty bold of someone who is in absolute hysterics about being charged for parking in county-owned garages to call other people dense.


I bet you enjoy being nickel and dimed to death by the govt. Is there any tax Democrats don't like? Just donate your money to this ghastly council and county govt while you're at it.

I bet you can't justify well at all how the county govt can take tax dollars,.open a library, and allow it for free while the county takes tax dollars, uses it to spend on building parking infrastructure, and then tries to charge you for it. It's literally the same, except one you get charged for for no reason. Don't have parking. Fine. Give me my tax dollars back.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


The benefits to society, when public libraries, public schools, and public fire departments don't have user fees, are pretty obvious. The benefits to society, when public roads don't have user fees, are also well-established, although there are also public roads that do have user fees, and reasonable arguments have been made that more public roads should have user fees and/or higher user fees. The benefits to society, when certain public places to temporarily leave your car (while you go off and do something else) don't have user fees, are...?
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


It's pretty bold of someone who is in absolute hysterics about being charged for parking in county-owned garages to call other people dense.


I bet you enjoy being nickel and dimed to death by the govt. Is there any tax Democrats don't like? Just donate your money to this ghastly council and county govt while you're at it.

I bet you can't justify well at all how the county govt can take tax dollars,.open a library, and allow it for free while the county takes tax dollars, uses it to spend on building parking infrastructure, and then tries to charge you for it. It's literally the same, except one you get charged for for no reason. Don't have parking. Fine. Give me my tax dollars back.


I'm fine with that. No public funds for car parking, no public regulations requiring car parking, no car parking on public property (including street parking). All car parking on private land only, under private operation. So we agree?
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


It's pretty bold of someone who is in absolute hysterics about being charged for parking in county-owned garages to call other people dense.


I bet you enjoy being nickel and dimed to death by the govt. Is there any tax Democrats don't like? Just donate your money to this ghastly council and county govt while you're at it.

I bet you can't justify well at all how the county govt can take tax dollars,.open a library, and allow it for free while the county takes tax dollars, uses it to spend on building parking infrastructure, and then tries to charge you for it. It's literally the same, except one you get charged for for no reason. Don't have parking. Fine. Give me my tax dollars back.


Nowhere in that screed is a coherent thought. You're really, really riled up about having to pay for car storage services. Dozens of posters upthread have tried to help you understand why the council is doing this, but you appear to be really determined to not understand.
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


The benefits to society, when public libraries, public schools, and public fire departments don't have user fees, are pretty obvious. The benefits to society, when public roads don't have user fees, are also well-established, although there are also public roads that do have user fees, and reasonable arguments have been made that more public roads should have user fees and/or higher user fees. The benefits to society, when certain public places to temporarily leave your car (while you go off and do something else) don't have user fees, are...?


Business patronage, which generates sales taxes, jobs, and economic growth.

Did you need a slide ruler and advanced calculus to figure that one out? I bet you did!
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


It's pretty bold of someone who is in absolute hysterics about being charged for parking in county-owned garages to call other people dense.


I bet you enjoy being nickel and dimed to death by the govt. Is there any tax Democrats don't like? Just donate your money to this ghastly council and county govt while you're at it.

I bet you can't justify well at all how the county govt can take tax dollars,.open a library, and allow it for free while the county takes tax dollars, uses it to spend on building parking infrastructure, and then tries to charge you for it. It's literally the same, except one you get charged for for no reason. Don't have parking. Fine. Give me my tax dollars back.


I'm fine with that. No public funds for car parking, no public regulations requiring car parking, no car parking on public property (including street parking). All car parking on private land only, under private operation. So we agree?


Sure..build it and how well your local economy does in the suburbs when you take away convenience for going to local businesses and stores. I'd love to watch this in action and the county immediately implode as the idiot urbanists make transportation infinitely harder and time consuming for everyone.
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


It's pretty bold of someone who is in absolute hysterics about being charged for parking in county-owned garages to call other people dense.


I bet you enjoy being nickel and dimed to death by the govt. Is there any tax Democrats don't like? Just donate your money to this ghastly council and county govt while you're at it.

I bet you can't justify well at all how the county govt can take tax dollars,.open a library, and allow it for free while the county takes tax dollars, uses it to spend on building parking infrastructure, and then tries to charge you for it. It's literally the same, except one you get charged for for no reason. Don't have parking. Fine. Give me my tax dollars back.


Nowhere in that screed is a coherent thought. You're really, really riled up about having to pay for car storage services. Dozens of posters upthread have tried to help you understand why the council is doing this, but you appear to be really determined to not understand.



Go back to your lil bike.

How long can you ride a wheelie for?

If you don't like the burbs, move.
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


It's pretty bold of someone who is in absolute hysterics about being charged for parking in county-owned garages to call other people dense.


I bet you enjoy being nickel and dimed to death by the govt. Is there any tax Democrats don't like? Just donate your money to this ghastly council and county govt while you're at it.

I bet you can't justify well at all how the county govt can take tax dollars,.open a library, and allow it for free while the county takes tax dollars, uses it to spend on building parking infrastructure, and then tries to charge you for it. It's literally the same, except one you get charged for for no reason. Don't have parking. Fine. Give me my tax dollars back.


I'm fine with that. No public funds for car parking, no public regulations requiring car parking, no car parking on public property (including street parking). All car parking on private land only, under private operation. So we agree?


Sure..build it and how well your local economy does in the suburbs when you take away convenience for going to local businesses and stores. I'd love to watch this in action and the county immediately implode as the idiot urbanists make transportation infinitely harder and time consuming for everyone.


I guess we don't agree after all
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


I’d be happy to pay tolls on every road (ideally congestion sensitive tolls) as long as I no longer have to pay taxes for roads, schools, planning, recreation centers, or anything down county. Let’s just privatize everything while we’re at it. But I’m a grown-up and realize it doesn’t work that way.

As it is, your crowd has already made commuting here harder, and as you’ve done so, the county’s economy has tanked. I think there’s a causal effect.
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Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


Sure, after they charge you additional fees to school your kids. Why should I pay for your kids' education when I don't have kids in MoCo schools.


Why have any public services at all? Or taxes?


That's the point. We already paid taxes. They burned it on building on public infrastructure for parking. Therefore it should be free just like libraries, roads, schools, fire dept, etc.

Wooooosh.

You people are dense.


It's pretty bold of someone who is in absolute hysterics about being charged for parking in county-owned garages to call other people dense.


I bet you enjoy being nickel and dimed to death by the govt. Is there any tax Democrats don't like? Just donate your money to this ghastly council and county govt while you're at it.

I bet you can't justify well at all how the county govt can take tax dollars,.open a library, and allow it for free while the county takes tax dollars, uses it to spend on building parking infrastructure, and then tries to charge you for it. It's literally the same, except one you get charged for for no reason. Don't have parking. Fine. Give me my tax dollars back.


Nowhere in that screed is a coherent thought. You're really, really riled up about having to pay for car storage services. Dozens of posters upthread have tried to help you understand why the council is doing this, but you appear to be really determined to not understand.


Settle down. Your tax dollars didn’t actually pay for the garages unless you built an apartment or office building in the past few decades. Developers have mostly paid for them. Sometimes they built them as an in-kind payment and sometimes they built them but leased them back to the county on terms very favorable to the developer.

The county (even planning) doesn’t want the state to ban parking minimums because if they do then they won’t be able to extract parking lot district payments.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


I’d be happy to pay tolls on every road (ideally congestion sensitive tolls) as long as I no longer have to pay taxes for roads, schools, planning, recreation centers, or anything down county. Let’s just privatize everything while we’re at it. But I’m a grown-up and realize it doesn’t work that way.

As it is, your crowd has already made commuting here harder, and as you’ve done so, the county’s economy has tanked. I think there’s a causal effect.


Do you mean "driving"? The only thing that's made driving harder is other drivers.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Libraries are free. So should parking.


You do not have to pay extra to park at a library, so you're all set. You do have to pay extra to take a bus to the library, though. Which does raise questions about what we're subsidizing, whom we're subsidizing, and why.



No, I mean actual use of libraries is free, therefore it should also be free for parking in the county. It's just another service the county provides just like libraries.


What other county services should be free? Buses? Swimming pools? Garbage pick-up? Construction permits? Canoe rentals? Summer camps? All of these should be paid for out of general revenue, like libraries? Hey, maybe there shouldn't even be property taxes? Why shouldn't owning property be free?


Yes to all.

You pay taxes for something, they spend it, therefore open to public use. You can't make libraries free then demand parking should be charged even though you're using taxpayer dollars to build that infrastructure. Buses are free in Baltimore. They figured out how to do it, so why can't MoCo?

And your last point is dumb. Property is private and allowed to be owned by individuals according to the constitution. People pay money, they get to own land. That's not using tax dollars.


Wow. Well. If we're getting rid of every government user fee, that will lead to a lot of changes. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, just so you can park for "free" in a county-owned garage in downtown Bethesda on a Saturday afternoon.


Start charging for library access then, just like gym memberships. Why should I pay for other to rent DVDs for their entiertainment, for them to have a place to fart around all day on the internet for free, and to read books? I don't use that, therefore people who use should pay too.


Also, let's put tolls on every road! Why should I pay for a road for you to drive on? I don't use that road.


I’d be happy to pay tolls on every road (ideally congestion sensitive tolls) as long as I no longer have to pay taxes for roads, schools, planning, recreation centers, or anything down county. Let’s just privatize everything while we’re at it. But I’m a grown-up and realize it doesn’t work that way.

As it is, your crowd has already made commuting here harder, and as you’ve done so, the county’s economy has tanked. I think there’s a causal effect.


Do you mean "driving"? The only thing that's made driving harder is other drivers.


No, I mean commuting. Especially driving. You’ve succeeded in making driving miserable with your road diets and refusal to expand roads after you advocate for all of that new housing far away from jobs but you haven’t delivered viable alternatives.
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