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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.

I dispute your premise. This doesn’t exist in school materials and you know it.

DP. So you clearly haven't bothered to watch the video that was put out with actual pictures from these books, found in school libraries.

EXACTLY. There’s NOTHING ok about graphic depictions of sex.

Some people here apparently have an inappropriate agenda.

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The gaslighting here is so typical. Apparently, if we don't want our kids exposed to inappropriate sexual material, there is something wrong with US. But nothing wrong with those who insist their kids SHOULD be exposed to it. What a joke. No wonder no one takes LW extremists seriously.

Makes me wonder if they were molested as children, or exposed to inappropriate sexual things as children and that's why they lack normal sexual boundaries. I simply was never, ever exposed to any graphic sexual content from an adult or at school except once and it made me incredibly uncomfortable. And no, I was not a virgin. But it was skeevy and inappropriate at school. Just freaking gross!!!!

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Which is how normal people feel. People who are dead-set on exposing kids to this material are not normal.

Nobody is "exposing" this material to teens. The books are sitting in a HS library and a teen has to proactively go check them out.

The deliberately obtuse act is doing you no favors.

These books aren't taught in the classroom.

They aren't part of the curriculum.

A teen would have to physically go to the library and check one out.

No one is "exposing" this material to teens.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Are you talking about the Plato reference? Now you hate Plato?

Tell us you haven't bothered to watch the video without actually telling us. Nice gaslighting.

Here's some more "pornography" for you to ban:

https://collections.mfa.org/objects/153710
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/253349
https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1843-1103-15
https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections/object/292377

Do any of those images depict strap-ons and blow jobs on minors? Are they available in public school libraries? You are a complete dunce.

You can click on them, don't worry, they won't bite.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.

You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?

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In the face of proof that these pornographic images are indeed in Gender Queer (and other books), the poster is now moving the goalposts to demand a different source. Too bad the WaPo and NYT - two sources I'm sure the PP would approve of - don't have the guts to display these pictures.

You sound nuts.

Your kid have a phone? Then they have a world of porn at their fingertips.

Exactly.

Happy to give their kids a phone/porn 24x7, but not a book in a high school library for an unrepresented group.

It figures that someone with this "logic" would never have heard of or dreamed of using parental controls on their children's phones.

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DP. Yes, actually, that is the only role of sex ed. To describe the scientific biological changes in our bodies as we go through puberty, to describe the scientific reproductive systems of human beings, and to describe the scientific sexually transmitted diseases that one can contract without practicing safe sex or abstinence. That's it.

Why so shocked? Are you disappointed that public schools aren't teaching kids about anal sex and butt plugs? No worries, you can still expose *your* kids to that information.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Are you talking about the Plato reference? Now you hate Plato?

Tell us you haven't bothered to watch the video without actually telling us. Nice gaslighting.

You want to ban ancient Greek art now?

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Are you talking about the Plato reference? Now you hate Plato?

Tell us you haven't bothered to watch the video without actually telling us. Nice gaslighting.

Here's some more "pornography" for you to ban:

https://collections.mfa.org/objects/153710
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/253349
https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1843-1103-15
https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections/object/292377

Do any of those images depict strap-ons and blow jobs on minors? Are they available in public school libraries? You are a complete dunce.

Maybe you can go and pull all of the art books and art history books off the school library shelves, too. Or just go ahead and pull all the books off the shelves and close the school library. Or why stop there? Close the school, the school district, the whole public education system. It's all worth it to prevent the possibility that somebody, somewhere, might learn something you think they shouldn't oughta.

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DP. Yes, actually, that is the only role of sex ed. To describe the scientific biological changes in our bodies as we go through puberty, to describe the scientific reproductive systems of human beings, and to describe the scientific sexually transmitted diseases that one can contract without practicing safe sex or abstinence. That's it.

Why so shocked? Are you disappointed that public schools aren't teaching kids about anal sex and butt plugs? No worries, you can still expose *your* kids to that information.

You seem to enjoy talking about these topics.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Are you talking about the Plato reference? Now you hate Plato?

Tell us you haven't bothered to watch the video without actually telling us. Nice gaslighting.

Here's some more "pornography" for you to ban:

https://collections.mfa.org/objects/153710
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/253349
https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1843-1103-15
https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections/object/292377

Do any of those images depict strap-ons and blow jobs on minors? Are they available in public school libraries? You are a complete dunce.

You can click on them, don't worry, they won't bite.

I did click on them. The questions were for you to answer - which I see you can't because you know how dumb you look.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.

You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?

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In the face of proof that these pornographic images are indeed in Gender Queer (and other books), the poster is now moving the goalposts to demand a different source. Too bad the WaPo and NYT - two sources I'm sure the PP would approve of - don't have the guts to display these pictures.

You sound nuts.

Your kid have a phone? Then they have a world of porn at their fingertips.

Exactly.

Happy to give their kids a phone/porn 24x7, but not a book in a high school library for an unrepresented group.

It figures that someone with this "logic" would never have heard of or dreamed of using parental controls on their children's phones.

How would parental controls keep a teen from watching porn on their phone?

And then I'll have my 12 year old tell you how they can get around them.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Weird that "The Iowa Standard" website, pretending to be a news site, did not exist until March 31, 2019. Reeks of fake news. And for being a "news" site it is incredibly weak on details and specifics to actually back up its claims.

You’re just going to dig your heels in, aren’t you?

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In the face of proof that these pornographic images are indeed in Gender Queer (and other books), the poster is now moving the goalposts to demand a different source. Too bad the WaPo and NYT - two sources I'm sure the PP would approve of - don't have the guts to display these pictures.

You sound nuts.

Your kid have a phone? Then they have a world of porn at their fingertips.

Exactly.

Happy to give their kids a phone/porn 24x7, but not a book in a high school library for an unrepresented group.

It figures that someone with this "logic" would never have heard of or dreamed of using parental controls on their children's phones.

Tell me you've never been the parent of, or been a, or even known any, teenagers without telling me you've never been the parent of, or been a, or even known any, teenagers.

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Anonymous wrote:In any case, it's quite clear what the book-banners are objecting to, and it's not a couple of drawings on a book on a school library bookshelf. First comes targeting books by/for/about LGBTQ people; then comes targeting LGBTQ people.

Yes, sure. You are so right. Lobbying to get pornographic images out of our school libraries definitely = "targeting LGBTQ people."

Yes, you and the other book-banners are targeting LGBTQ people.

No. We're targeting LGBT books in schools. And we're not going to stop.

Which negatively affects LGBTQ kids. You are hurting kids with your bigotry.

Psst: LGBTQ kids don't need to exposed to porn any more than straight kids do. It is so curious how desperately you want kids to see pornographic images though...

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Are you talking about the Plato reference? Now you hate Plato?

Tell us you haven't bothered to watch the video without actually telling us. Nice gaslighting.

You want to ban ancient Greek art now?

So you didn't watch the video. You can just admit that you're scared to.

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Graph depictions of how to how have anal sex is not ok for school children at school. Sorry, OP.

If you choose to instruct your children about that, it can certainly be done in your home. No one cares.

Why not? In the Sex Ed. course both my teens took, how to properly have heterosexual intercourse was discussed (consent, emotions, precautions like condoms & other birth control, lubricants).

Why should cis-het teens be instructed properly and not LGBTQ teens?

Because heterosexual intercourse is how the species procreates, thus making it a part of science and biology. That is the only role of "sex education" in schools.

That is not the only role of "sex education" in schools. It's not a science class.

DP. Yes, actually, that is the only role of sex ed. To describe the scientific biological changes in our bodies as we go through puberty, to describe the scientific reproductive systems of human beings, and to describe the scientific sexually transmitted diseases that one can contract without practicing safe sex or abstinence. That's it.

Nope. It's much more than that.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/instruction/family-life-education

It's not a science class.

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Are you talking about the Plato reference? Now you hate Plato?

Tell us you haven't bothered to watch the video without actually telling us. Nice gaslighting.

Here's some more "pornography" for you to ban:

https://collections.mfa.org/objects/153710
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/253349
https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1843-1103-15
https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections/object/292377

Do any of those images depict strap-ons and blow jobs on minors? Are they available in public school libraries? You are a complete dunce.

You can click on them, don't worry, they won't bite.

I did click on them. The questions were for you to answer - which I see you can't because you know how dumb you look.

Great. And, are you now planning to contact the museums to tell them to remove these artworks from their collections?

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Anonymous wrote:I fully support kids watching porn or whatever they want to do on their own time. I do not restrict my kids' technology use. I also keep an open dialog with them about dating and sex (if they want to talk about it - not compelled). I see no reason why books about graphic sexual maneuvers need to be in school libraries.

They … aren’t.

And most of this is aimed at things like “Heather has two mommies.”

false. The book genderqueer at the forefront of this literally has an image of a naked adult male with an erection touching a boy’s penis. Why do you want this anywhere let alone in school?

Huh? That isn't in Gender Queer...

Your news source is crap.

DP. I guess you really think people are stupid and won’t fact check you. Idiot.

https://theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/?amp

Are you talking about the Plato reference? Now you hate Plato?

Tell us you haven't bothered to watch the video without actually telling us. Nice gaslighting.

Here's some more "pornography" for you to ban:

https://collections.mfa.org/objects/153710
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/253349
https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/G_1843-1103-15
https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections/object/292377

Do any of those images depict strap-ons and blow jobs on minors? Are they available in public school libraries? You are a complete dunce.

Maybe you can go and pull all of the art books and art history books off the school library shelves, too. Or just go ahead and pull all the books off the shelves and close the school library. Or why stop there? Close the school, the school district, the whole public education system. It's all worth it to prevent the possibility that somebody, somewhere, might learn something you think they shouldn't oughta.

Again, you're welcome to expose your kids to the world of sex toys and porn. No one is standing in your way (except maybe CPS).