Anyone else thinks the whole college admission process is a total farse?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:True story from this admission cycle -

1. Kid starts a non profit,
2. Hires College counselors and essay writers
3. Talks about the impressive amount of money their non profit has raised and donated to XYZ cause
4. Admitted to a T-10

Anyone know how a HS student was able to raise such an impressive amount of money?

Not surprisingly all that money came from one source - The parents of the same HS student.

"Holistic" admission process works!

But you're writing that as if they have nothing else going on. The kind of student with those resources has been encouraged to perform in the classroom all the while. It's not like a D student is getting into a top college because they started a non-profit. The non-profit is probably one of many things that make them stand out in the admissions process.

Honestly, that should disqualify him for admission at any school let alone a T-10 even if they are the best at everything. I cannot believe someone is actually defending this type of behavior.

Everyone is lying on their apps. Nobody verifies anything. Elite colleges want rich elbowy b.s. artists. Ruthless strivers who know how to play the b.s. game.

No, not everyone.

Sheesh...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True story from this admission cycle -

1. Kid starts a non profit,
2. Hires College counselors and essay writers
3. Talks about the impressive amount of money their non profit has raised and donated to XYZ cause
4. Admitted to a T-10

Anyone know how a HS student was able to raise such an impressive amount of money?

Not surprisingly all that money came from one source - The parents of the same HS student.

"Holistic" admission process works!

But you're writing that as if they have nothing else going on. The kind of student with those resources has been encouraged to perform in the classroom all the while. It's not like a D student is getting into a top college because they started a non-profit. The non-profit is probably one of many things that make them stand out in the admissions process.

Honestly, that should disqualify him for admission at any school let alone a T-10 even if they are the best at everything. I cannot believe someone is actually defending this type of behavior.

Everyone is lying on their apps. Nobody verifies anything. Elite colleges want rich elbowy b.s. artists. Ruthless strivers who know how to play the b.s. game.

No, not everyone.

Sheesh...

A blatant liar held the highest office. We hear about candidates on the other side that lied about their race on their own college apps. We have crazy George in elected office.

Is it any wonder there are so many dishonest people in the US with those role models/leaders?

I swear people with integrity, honesty and a good moral code are a dying breed. I wish colleges could find a way to select for those type of kids.

[Anonymous]

Yes, agree about integrity and honesty.

[Anonymous]

It is hard to fake an entire transcript of the most rigorous classes. Either the student has taken them and mastered the material of they have not. Top Physics, top math courses, top chem....do not skip any of the most difficult material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True story from this admission cycle -

1. Kid starts a non profit,
2. Hires College counselors and essay writers
3. Talks about the impressive amount of money their non profit has raised and donated to XYZ cause
4. Admitted to a T-10

Anyone know how a HS student was able to raise such an impressive amount of money?

Not surprisingly all that money came from one source - The parents of the same HS student.

"Holistic" admission process works!

But you're writing that as if they have nothing else going on. The kind of student with those resources has been encouraged to perform in the classroom all the while. It's not like a D student is getting into a top college because they started a non-profit. The non-profit is probably one of many things that make them stand out in the admissions process.

Honestly, that should disqualify him for admission at any school let alone a T-10 even if they are the best at everything. I cannot believe someone is actually defending this type of behavior.

Why? Nothing that they wrote is a lie. It's actually really clever because the parental donations to the non-profit are still tax deductible if it was set up properly. The non-profit can then send the money to the charities that the parents would have otherwise donated to. I'm surprised that this isn't more popular

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to fake an entire transcript of the most rigorous classes. Either the student has taken them and mastered the material of they have not. Top Physics, top math courses, top chem....do not skip any of the most difficult material.

There are far more applicants with those transcript than spots at top schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True story from this admission cycle -

1. Kid starts a non profit,
2. Hires College counselors and essay writers
3. Talks about the impressive amount of money their non profit has raised and donated to XYZ cause
4. Admitted to a T-10

Anyone know how a HS student was able to raise such an impressive amount of money?

Not surprisingly all that money came from one source - The parents of the same HS student.

"Holistic" admission process works!

But you're writing that as if they have nothing else going on. The kind of student with those resources has been encouraged to perform in the classroom all the while. It's not like a D student is getting into a top college because they started a non-profit. The non-profit is probably one of many things that make them stand out in the admissions process.

Honestly, that should disqualify him for admission at any school let alone a T-10 even if they are the best at everything. I cannot believe someone is actually defending this type of behavior.

Everyone is lying on their apps. Nobody verifies anything. Elite colleges want rich elbowy b.s. artists. Ruthless strivers who know how to play the b.s. game.

No, not everyone.

Sheesh...

A blatant liar held the highest office. We hear about candidates on the other side that lied about their race on their own college apps. We have crazy George in elected office.

Is it any wonder there are so many dishonest people in the US with those role models/leaders?

I swear people with integrity, honesty and a good moral code are a dying breed. I wish colleges could find a way to select for those type of kids.

*holds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True story from this admission cycle -

1. Kid starts a non profit,
2. Hires College counselors and essay writers
3. Talks about the impressive amount of money their non profit has raised and donated to XYZ cause
4. Admitted to a T-10

Anyone know how a HS student was able to raise such an impressive amount of money?

Not surprisingly all that money came from one source - The parents of the same HS student.

"Holistic" admission process works!

But you're writing that as if they have nothing else going on. The kind of student with those resources has been encouraged to perform in the classroom all the while. It's not like a D student is getting into a top college because they started a non-profit. The non-profit is probably one of many things that make them stand out in the admissions process.

Honestly, that should disqualify him for admission at any school let alone a T-10 even if they are the best at everything. I cannot believe someone is actually defending this type of behavior.

Why? Nothing that they wrote is a lie. It's actually really clever because the parental donations to the non-profit are still tax deductible if it was set up properly. The non-profit can then send the money to the charities that the parents would have otherwise donated to. I'm surprised that this isn't more popular

Rich White people have been doing a variation of the above for years now.. Just catching on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True story from this admission cycle -

1. Kid starts a non profit,
2. Hires College counselors and essay writers
3. Talks about the impressive amount of money their non profit has raised and donated to XYZ cause
4. Admitted to a T-10

Anyone know how a HS student was able to raise such an impressive amount of money?

Not surprisingly all that money came from one source - The parents of the same HS student.

"Holistic" admission process works!

But you're writing that as if they have nothing else going on. The kind of student with those resources has been encouraged to perform in the classroom all the while. It's not like a D student is getting into a top college because they started a non-profit. The non-profit is probably one of many things that make them stand out in the admissions process.

Honestly, that should disqualify him for admission at any school let alone a T-10 even if they are the best at everything. I cannot believe someone is actually defending this type of behavior.

Everyone is lying on their apps. Nobody verifies anything. Elite colleges want rich elbowy b.s. artists. Ruthless strivers who know how to play the b.s. game.

No, not everyone.

Sheesh...

A blatant liar held the highest office. We hear about candidates on the other side that lied about their race on their own college apps. We have crazy George in elected office.

Is it any wonder there are so many dishonest people in the US with those role models/leaders?

I swear people with integrity, honesty and a good moral code are a dying breed. I wish colleges could find a way to select for those type of kids.

*holds

NP- Love how PP points out one side and ignores the other all while talking about integrity, honesty and a good moral code...SMH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to fake an entire transcript of the most rigorous classes. Either the student has taken them and mastered the material of they have not. Top Physics, top math courses, top chem....do not skip any of the most difficult material.

There are far more applicants with those transcript than spots at top schools

That is the minimum requirement. These schools are for the super nerds unless you are hooked.

[Anonymous]

The colleges are selling product and much of that product is status and access to elite contacts, which us 1-5 percenters care about deeply because we want our kids to do as well or better than us. However the assertion that its based on qualification is clearly false - to everyones point they probably dont even look at most applications and then they craft their pool of legacy, athletes and woke ideals. The best and the brightest are not really factors imo. Maybe a few get in, most do not. Its like the royal family. It's not like they are smart or good looking- but everyone bows to them nonetheless. I dont think you realize how bad it is until you have a kid go through it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True story from this admission cycle -

1. Kid starts a non profit,
2. Hires College counselors and essay writers
3. Talks about the impressive amount of money their non profit has raised and donated to XYZ cause
4. Admitted to a T-10

Anyone know how a HS student was able to raise such an impressive amount of money?

Not surprisingly all that money came from one source - The parents of the same HS student.

"Holistic" admission process works!

But you're writing that as if they have nothing else going on. The kind of student with those resources has been encouraged to perform in the classroom all the while. It's not like a D student is getting into a top college because they started a non-profit. The non-profit is probably one of many things that make them stand out in the admissions process.

Honestly, that should disqualify him for admission at any school let alone a T-10 even if they are the best at everything. I cannot believe someone is actually defending this type of behavior.

Everyone is lying on their apps. Nobody verifies anything. Elite colleges want rich elbowy b.s. artists. Ruthless strivers who know how to play the b.s. game.

Not everyone is lying on their apps. My kid didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:True story from this admission cycle -

1. Kid starts a non profit,
2. Hires College counselors and essay writers
3. Talks about the impressive amount of money their non profit has raised and donated to XYZ cause
4. Admitted to a T-10

Anyone know how a HS student was able to raise such an impressive amount of money?

Not surprisingly all that money came from one source - The parents of the same HS student.

"Holistic" admission process works!

But you're writing that as if they have nothing else going on. The kind of student with those resources has been encouraged to perform in the classroom all the while. It's not like a D student is getting into a top college because they started a non-profit. The non-profit is probably one of many things that make them stand out in the admissions process.

Honestly, that should disqualify him for admission at any school let alone a T-10 even if they are the best at everything. I cannot believe someone is actually defending this type of behavior.

Everyone is lying on their apps. Nobody verifies anything. Elite colleges want rich elbowy b.s. artists. Ruthless strivers who know how to play the b.s. game.

Not everyone is lying on their apps. My kid didn’t.

and the irony is that in the UK, where they have royalty, colleges don't care about legacy or what you did last summer. It's more data driven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to fake an entire transcript of the most rigorous classes. Either the student has taken them and mastered the material of they have not. Top Physics, top math courses, top chem....do not skip any of the most difficult material.

What about top humanities and FL? Or do you think STEM is all that matters?

The one dimensional STEM focus here makes me crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The colleges are selling product and much of that product is status and access to elite contacts, which us 1-5 percenters care about deeply because we want our kids to do as well or better than us. However the assertion that its based on qualification is clearly false - to everyones point they probably dont even look at most applications and then they craft their pool of legacy, athletes and woke ideals. The best and the brightest are not really factors imo. Maybe a few get in, most do not. Its like the royal family. It's not like they are smart or good looking- but everyone bows to them nonetheless. I dont think you realize how bad it is until you have a kid go through it.

This just sounds bitter. An admitted applicant might have a short handwritten note on the admittance letter stating what it was that attracted the adcom and it is not any of those thongs.