What are your high stat kid’s safeties?

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What are people's thoughts on U Denver as a safety for high stat kids?

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Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts on U Denver as a safety for high stat kids?

Your kid will have to tailor the essays to show a genuine desire to go to Colorado. A lot of the smaller west coast private schools like some east coast kids for geographic diversity, but not those kids who are obviously just using them as a backup and that have no intention of moving west.

I would also consider MSU, in Bozeman. Great school, particularly for STEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts on U Denver as a safety for high stat kids?

Your kid will have to tailor the essays to show a genuine desire to go to Colorado. A lot of the smaller west coast private schools like some east coast kids for geographic diversity, but not those kids who are obviously just using them as a backup and that have no intention of moving west.

I would also consider MSU, in Bozeman. Great school, particularly for STEM.

Also Colorado State. DD got merit there, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts on U Denver as a safety for high stat kids?

Your kid will have to tailor the essays to show a genuine desire to go to Colorado. A lot of the smaller west coast private schools like some east coast kids for geographic diversity, but not those kids who are obviously just using them as a backup and that have no intention of moving west.

I would also consider MSU, in Bozeman. Great school, particularly for STEM.

There is no essay for U Denver!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts on U Denver as a safety for high stat kids?

Your kid will have to tailor the essays to show a genuine desire to go to Colorado. A lot of the smaller west coast private schools like some east coast kids for geographic diversity, but not those kids who are obviously just using them as a backup and that have no intention of moving west.

I would also consider MSU, in Bozeman. Great school, particularly for STEM.

There is no essay for U Denver!

They use the common app essay. I thought they had supplemental/optional questions but maybe I am misremembering.

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Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts on U Denver as a safety for high stat kids?

Mine loved it and received generous merit. Right up until the last day, we thought that's were he'd choose, even though he was also in at much higher ranked schools. It has a lot going for it, and a great new engineering school and mountain campus. Great community, very approachable professors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lehigh is considered a safety??

No, but if you are WL you have a good shot to get in.

[Anonymous]

Indiana
Kansas
Colorado

[Anonymous]

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More importantly, it's doing something very right in terms of education, service, outcome when you look at the retention rate and outcome data.
It's literally #3 after MIT and UChigao on retention rate. Its outcome is on par/better/close to most of the T20/T25 schools.
Just hard facts, but haters/bashers get crazy and obsessed.

Not sure what your source is, but last year's WSJ rankings (the final set WSJ publiished) said NEU ranked #82 among student "Outcomes" - which isn't bad in the grand scheme of things but isn't "T20/T25" and in fact ranks NEU behind UMD/CP and VPI and Pitt and Indiana.

I would go with the data from the Department of the Education.
Also what's good about this is that it's for the folks who got any type of federal grant or loan which covers a big portion of the lower class, middle class, and UMC folks, and eliminates the rich folks effect that skews the result.
So if you are lower class, middle class, UMC, then definitely pay attention to this.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/
Median, began college 10 years ago

Northeastern 80K
Brown $79K
Vanderbilt 80K
Emory 72K
Rice 78K
UCLA 74K
UCB 80K
Northwestern 80K
UVA 77K
NYU 76K
Michigan 76K

This is already 10 out of 25, and there are a few little better like 83K 84K

[Anonymous]

But it is NE so you can’t trust the numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are people's thoughts on U Denver as a safety for high stat kids?

I think it is a good option as is CU-Boulder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

More importantly, it's doing something very right in terms of education, service, outcome when you look at the retention rate and outcome data.
It's literally #3 after MIT and UChigao on retention rate. Its outcome is on par/better/close to most of the T20/T25 schools.
Just hard facts, but haters/bashers get crazy and obsessed.

Not sure what your source is, but last year's WSJ rankings (the final set WSJ publiished) said NEU ranked #82 among student "Outcomes" - which isn't bad in the grand scheme of things but isn't "T20/T25" and in fact ranks NEU behind UMD/CP and VPI and Pitt and Indiana.

I would go with the data from the Department of the Education.
Also what's good about this is that it's for the folks who got any type of federal grant or loan which covers a big portion of the lower class, middle class, and UMC folks, and eliminates the rich folks effect that skews the result.
So if you are lower class, middle class, UMC, then definitely pay attention to this.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/
Median, began college 10 years ago

Northeastern 80K
Brown $79K
Vanderbilt 80K
Emory 72K
Rice 78K
UCLA 74K
UCB 80K
Northwestern 80K
UVA 77K
NYU 76K
Michigan 76K

This is already 10 out of 25, and there are a few little better like 83K 84K

This data is easily skewed with high concentrations of engineering and computer science majors which make good money immediately at age 22. And is sunk by colleges with lots of students going into academia and medicine, which take upwards of 12 years of schooling before you get a nice pay check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

More importantly, it's doing something very right in terms of education, service, outcome when you look at the retention rate and outcome data.
It's literally #3 after MIT and UChigao on retention rate. Its outcome is on par/better/close to most of the T20/T25 schools.
Just hard facts, but haters/bashers get crazy and obsessed.

Not sure what your source is, but last year's WSJ rankings (the final set WSJ publiished) said NEU ranked #82 among student "Outcomes" - which isn't bad in the grand scheme of things but isn't "T20/T25" and in fact ranks NEU behind UMD/CP and VPI and Pitt and Indiana.

I would go with the data from the Department of the Education.
Also what's good about this is that it's for the folks who got any type of federal grant or loan which covers a big portion of the lower class, middle class, and UMC folks, and eliminates the rich folks effect that skews the result.
So if you are lower class, middle class, UMC, then definitely pay attention to this.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/
Median, began college 10 years ago

Northeastern 80K
Brown $79K
Vanderbilt 80K
Emory 72K
Rice 78K
UCLA 74K
UCB 80K
Northwestern 80K
UVA 77K
NYU 76K
Michigan 76K

This is already 10 out of 25, and there are a few little better like 83K 84K

This data is easily skewed with high concentrations of engineering and computer science majors which make good money immediately at age 22. And is sunk by colleges with lots of students going into academia and medicine, which take upwards of 12 years of schooling before you get a nice pay check.

I would say medical school is the only excuse after 10 years from the start. If you think some schools have unusually and constantly
send high number of graduates to medical schools, take that into a consideration.

[Anonymous]

I would go with the data from the Department of the Education.
Also what's good about this is that it's for the folks who got any type of federal grant or loan which covers a big portion of the lower class, middle class, and UMC folks, and eliminates the rich folks effect that skews the result.
So if you are lower class, middle class, UMC, then definitely pay attention to this.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/
Median, began college 10 years ago

Actually, the WSJ assessment of outcomes is a little more sophisticated than simply a snapshot of median incomes of those who received federal financial aid ten years out. I’m not saying it’s the only valid assessment, but nor is ED’s.
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/wall-street-journal-times-higher-education-college-rankings-2022

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lehigh is considered a safety??

No, but if you are WL you have a good shot to get in.

Lehigh acceptance rate was 50% last year. The prior president misguidedly decided to expand the size of the class, so every year for the past three (I think) they’ve accepted more freshmen. That plus opening a College of Health and making the wrong choice for its first Dean, also contributed to problems. So yes, if you show a lot of interest at Lehigh (a visit is a must) and fit their most important criteria of rigor, then Lehigh can be a safety. The Engineering, Arts & Sciences, and Health Colleges are the easiest to get into. Education is a grad school-only, and Business is most competitive.