What are your high stat kid’s safeties?

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My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

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Pp, out of curiosity how did he express sincere interest in 18 schools? Sounds exhausting.
Glad it seems to have worked out and I’m sure he will get into a fantastic grad program because of his celebrity where he his.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

Is he from TJ? I am so worried for my TJ junior with high SAT but not so impressive GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

There are a ton of "high stat" kids out there applying to the same schools vying for limited slots.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

I have not seen kids with these stats denied at umd, unless applying RD. Don't really follow vt, but mine applied for umd, and I followed here and on CC. Umd does fill most slots ea, though.

Also, as PP said, there's limited space. At my kid's magnet, so many parents push their kids towards CS from an early age. There's a LOT of kids applying for CS.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

UMD is just filled to the brim with high stat Asians and White males with 1600 NMSF, published research, 4.7 GPA, 12+ APs, national accolades etc. So if anyone is under the impression that UMD CS will be a walk in the park, well

You have an insanely large crowd of high achieving kids there because it is a huge program. And as usual the public colleges are brutal in grade deflation too. You will be better served going for a small private college because at least they bump up your GPA and they do not have hundreds of super achievers.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

I have not seen kids with these stats denied at umd, unless applying RD. Don't really follow vt, but mine applied for umd, and I followed here and on CC. Umd does fill most slots ea, though.

Also, as PP said, there's limited space. At my kid's magnet, so many parents push their kids towards CS from an early age. There's a LOT of kids applying for CS.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say a kid with those kind of stats likely is applying to UMD regular decision. It was likely a safety.

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Public: JMU, Virginia Tech, George Mason, Christopher Newport

Private: Richmond, Dickinson, Wake Forest, Colgate, Bucknell, Lehigh

Some of these are in no way safeties. Virginia Tech, in particular, should not be on this list.

The privates here are not safeties. Virginia Tech is not a safety. Look at state flagships that are not as competitive for good safety.

VT has 70 percent accept rate

No, it doesn’t. In 2022 it was 52%. Also one cannot compare the percentage of acceptances at a state university against privates, the reasons being tgat in-state Virginians self-select (there is only one Virginia Tech and the acceptance figures are well known so students have a very good understanding before they apply if whether or not they will get in … or at least used to until the President went on a URM and first generation tear and started yield protectio n against top TH students and other high stats kids). And, yes, engineering is a public higher admit, especially so because more than half of the VT engineering majors are OOS

The last two cycles were very big on URM and First Gen. They were broadcasting it everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

I have not seen kids with these stats denied at umd, unless applying RD. Don't really follow vt, but mine applied for umd, and I followed here and on CC. Umd does fill most slots ea, though.

Also, as PP said, there's limited space. At my kid's magnet, so many parents push their kids towards CS from an early age. There's a LOT of kids applying for CS.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say a kid with those kind of stats likely is applying to UMD regular decision. It was likely a safety.

Students interested in UMD (even as a safety) should apply early action.

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Anonymous wrote:It's wild to me how Northeastern isn't even a safety for top students anymore. Whatever they did to game the rankings, they did a good job, because 25 years ago they were a school of last resort. My cousin, who might generously be described as a "dim bulb," went there after getting rejected by almost every other school he applied to, including UMass Amherst, which wasn't exactly a bastion of selectivity in those days, either. I think his only other option might have been UMass Dartmouth. My uncle, his own father, used to call him "Short Bus" because of his lack of intellectual prowess. He actually graduated, too, though he was on the 6-7 year plan. Now he does some sort of sales and I guess does OK - he's one of those lovable dumb guys, kind of a John Candy in Planes, Trains, and Automobiles type. But he's the absolute last person you'd assume went to an elite college, which I guess technically he did.

This is really harsh. School smarts are so overrated. I hope your cousin has some family members who can celebrate his strengths without insulting him. I know a bunch of Ivy grads who have amounted to nothing in their careers FWIW. It is all so stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

UMD is just filled to the brim with high stat Asians and White males with 1600 NMSF, published research, 4.7 GPA, 12+ APs, national accolades etc. So if anyone is under the impression that UMD CS will be a walk in the park, well

You have an insanely large crowd of high achieving kids there because it is a huge program. And as usual the public colleges are brutal in grade deflation too. You will be better served going for a small private college because at least they bump up your GPA and they do not have hundreds of super achievers.

I believe you, but at my kids’ MCPS non-magnet high school, they know a handful of CS admits to UMD who were not nearly as high stats as you are describing (nowhere near that gpa and SAT and certainly no “published research”), and tons of UMD admits to arts and humanities and business.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

I have not seen kids with these stats denied at umd, unless applying RD. Don't really follow vt, but mine applied for umd, and I followed here and on CC. Umd does fill most slots ea, though.

Also, as PP said, there's limited space. At my kid's magnet, so many parents push their kids towards CS from an early age. There's a LOT of kids applying for CS.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say a kid with those kind of stats likely is applying to UMD regular decision. It was likely a safety.

Students interested in UMD (even as a safety) should apply early action.

+1 my magnet DC and their friends applied to UMD EA.

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

I have not seen kids with these stats denied at umd, unless applying RD. Don't really follow vt, but mine applied for umd, and I followed here and on CC. Umd does fill most slots ea, though.

Also, as PP said, there's limited space. At my kid's magnet, so many parents push their kids towards CS from an early age. There's a LOT of kids applying for CS.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say a kid with those kind of stats likely is applying to UMD regular decision. It was likely a safety.

Students interested in UMD (even as a safety) should apply early action.

+1 my magnet DC and their friends applied to UMD EA.

+1 as safety for CS

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Anonymous wrote:My high stat kid applied to 18 schools, got into no reach, no match, 4 safeties and 1 "if hell freezes over" safety. He also got rejected from safeties, like VT.

What we found is that depending on your major and your race, the results are totally different and you cannot categorize a safety based on naviance or usnwr or any of that without the major and race/urm status factored. My kid is brilliant- I wont go into stats but they don't get much better. But if you are going into CS as an Asian or white male - it's a dogfight. I have seen so many posts of all those 18 schools of 1600 NMSF 4.7 GPA kids denied at UMD or VT or other places we all thought were safe for high stats. Not safe. It was a reality check. I've got another gearing up to go and my outlook is totally different. Luckily the safeties have strong CS programs too (as someone pointed out UMD is top 10) and my kid has been given leadership and research positions already because the school sees how unusual he is. He may not be at MIT but he would also not get this sort of early celebrity there. I think it will all come out in the wash. High stat kids are super motivated and they will succeed regardless, though they will have to fight harder than the ones with the "top" schools on their resume.

I have not seen kids with these stats denied at umd, unless applying RD. Don't really follow vt, but mine applied for umd, and I followed here and on CC. Umd does fill most slots ea, though.

Also, as PP said, there's limited space. At my kid's magnet, so many parents push their kids towards CS from an early age. There's a LOT of kids applying for CS.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say a kid with those kind of stats likely is applying to UMD regular decision. It was likely a safety.

They shouldn't. Umd was my kid's safety. Applied EA. This is really important for admissions.