Please don't ride your bike on busy streets after dark

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I saw someone cycling at night on a e-bike without lights in dark clothes on the Whitehurst a few weeks ago. I am not sure what goes through peoples heads sometimes.


Are bikes even allowed on the Whitehurst? Isn’t it a freeway with no bike lane?


Bikes enjoy the same privileges on DC streets as any other vehicles. They are not prohibited on Whitehurst Freeway or on any other roads with or without a bike lane (Title 18, Section 1201.1). I would never ride on there, but those who do are well within the law. This has further information that may be useful for you: https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/DC-Bike-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf


That may be true, legally, but it seems insane to ride there. The speed limit is ostensibly 35, but I'd be surprised if most cars aren't going 45.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw someone cycling at night on a e-bike without lights in dark clothes on the Whitehurst a few weeks ago. I am not sure what goes through peoples heads sometimes.


Are bikes even allowed on the Whitehurst? Isn’t it a freeway with no bike lane?


Bikes enjoy the same privileges on DC streets as any other vehicles. They are not prohibited on Whitehurst Freeway or on any other roads with or without a bike lane (Title 18, Section 1201.1). I would never ride on there, but those who do are well within the law. This has further information that may be useful for you: https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/DC-Bike-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf


That may be true, legally, but it seems insane to ride there. The speed limit is ostensibly 35, but I'd be surprised if most cars aren't going 45.


We are in agreement.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw someone cycling at night on a e-bike without lights in dark clothes on the Whitehurst a few weeks ago. I am not sure what goes through peoples heads sometimes.


Are bikes even allowed on the Whitehurst? Isn’t it a freeway with no bike lane?


Bikes enjoy the same privileges on DC streets as any other vehicles. They are not prohibited on Whitehurst Freeway or on any other roads with or without a bike lane (Title 18, Section 1201.1). I would never ride on there, but those who do are well within the law. This has further information that may be useful for you: https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/DC-Bike-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf


That may be true, legally, but it seems insane to ride there. The speed limit is ostensibly 35, but I'd be surprised if most cars aren't going 45.

It is also not completely accurate. Bicycles cannot ride on interstate highways in DC and are expressly prohibited from riding in the roadway on the Lower Potomac Parkway and Clara Barton Parkway.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw someone cycling at night on a e-bike without lights in dark clothes on the Whitehurst a few weeks ago. I am not sure what goes through peoples heads sometimes.


Are bikes even allowed on the Whitehurst? Isn’t it a freeway with no bike lane?


Bikes enjoy the same privileges on DC streets as any other vehicles. They are not prohibited on Whitehurst Freeway or on any other roads with or without a bike lane (Title 18, Section 1201.1). I would never ride on there, but those who do are well within the law. This has further information that may be useful for you: https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/DC-Bike-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf


That may be true, legally, but it seems insane to ride there. The speed limit is ostensibly 35, but I'd be surprised if most cars aren't going 45.

It is also not completely accurate. Bicycles cannot ride on interstate highways in DC and are expressly prohibited from riding in the roadway on the Lower Potomac Parkway and Clara Barton Parkway.



Citation?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?


DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?


DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.


You sound psychotic enough to want to find out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?


DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.


Think we can all agree it’d be best if you don’t ever have a chance to test your theory that you would feel no guilt at all after killing someone, even if it was their fault.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw someone cycling at night on a e-bike without lights in dark clothes on the Whitehurst a few weeks ago. I am not sure what goes through peoples heads sometimes.


Are bikes even allowed on the Whitehurst? Isn’t it a freeway with no bike lane?


Bikes enjoy the same privileges on DC streets as any other vehicles. They are not prohibited on Whitehurst Freeway or on any other roads with or without a bike lane (Title 18, Section 1201.1). I would never ride on there, but those who do are well within the law. This has further information that may be useful for you: https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/DC-Bike-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf


That may be true, legally, but it seems insane to ride there. The speed limit is ostensibly 35, but I'd be surprised if most cars aren't going 45.

It is also not completely accurate. Bicycles cannot ride on interstate highways in DC and are expressly prohibited from riding in the roadway on the Lower Potomac Parkway and Clara Barton Parkway.


But is the Whitehurst an interstate highway? The only interstates I’m aware of in D.C. are 395 and 695.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?


DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.


Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?


DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.


You sound psychotic enough to want to find out.


I don’t desire to kill anyone. But I’m not going be victimized into guilt by someone who’s own life meant so little to them that they couldn’t be troubled to stop for a red light.

You clearly have no understanding of the “psychotic” - but you like to use it because it sounds salacious to you. Actually it just makes you sound dumb.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?


DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.


Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.


If I’m passing through an intersection on a green light at the posted speed limit of say, 30 mph, like on Nebraska Ave, and some idiot on a bike runs a red light and goes out in front of me, they’re probably going to get killed. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet - which a lot of riders seem not to do, especially on bike share bikes.

The thing is - I have a dash camera. And it records my speed all the time. And the video from the dash camera will clearly show that I’m not at fault.

And after the police watch it and don’t charge me because I’m not at fault, I’ll post the video on YouTube so millions of strangers can watch some dumbass kill themself because they didn’t need to stop.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw someone cycling at night on a e-bike without lights in dark clothes on the Whitehurst a few weeks ago. I am not sure what goes through peoples heads sometimes.


Are bikes even allowed on the Whitehurst? Isn’t it a freeway with no bike lane?


Bikes enjoy the same privileges on DC streets as any other vehicles. They are not prohibited on Whitehurst Freeway or on any other roads with or without a bike lane (Title 18, Section 1201.1). I would never ride on there, but those who do are well within the law. This has further information that may be useful for you: https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/DC-Bike-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf


That may be true, legally, but it seems insane to ride there. The speed limit is ostensibly 35, but I'd be surprised if most cars aren't going 45.

It is also not completely accurate. Bicycles cannot ride on interstate highways in DC and are expressly prohibited from riding in the roadway on the Lower Potomac Parkway and Clara Barton Parkway.

You need a citation that bicycles are not allowed on I-695, a controlled access interstate highway? I think you are too stupid to ride a bicycle or maybe congratulations on your future as a ghost bike.


Citation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?


DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.


Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.


If I’m passing through an intersection on a green light at the posted speed limit of say, 30 mph, like on Nebraska Ave, and some idiot on a bike runs a red light and goes out in front of me, they’re probably going to get killed. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet - which a lot of riders seem not to do, especially on bike share bikes.

The thing is - I have a dash camera. And it records my speed all the time. And the video from the dash camera will clearly show that I’m not at fault.

And after the police watch it and don’t charge me because I’m not at fault, I’ll post the video on YouTube so millions of strangers can watch some dumbass kill themself because they didn’t need to stop.


Maybe not psychotic, but sociopathic certainly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reflective gear is super important, but it gets dark at 5 PM now and some of us actually use bikes for transportation. "Stop doing your daily commute/errands" is not a reasonable ask any more than telling you not to drive after dark if you don't feel confident that you can see cyclists. We should wear brighter gear and more lights, and you should drive carefully and expect to share the road.




You can blame other people all you want (and we know cyclists love to blame everyone else for everything). But you'll be the person who's dead if a driver doesn't see you.


And you are the person with the $50 ticket and lifelong guilt.


Nope. No guilt. I have $50. You’ll be dead. Pretty damn sure I win in that scenario.


How do you know you wouldn't feel any guilt? Have you killed people before?


DP

If I struck someone on a bike as a result of their own negligence- like running a stop sign or red-light or riding the wrong way on the road - NO, I wouldn’t feel any guilt at all. They’re dead because of their own stupid actions, and they dragged me into their stupidity that resulted in their death. Not only would I not feel anything other than anger at them, but I’d also sue their estate for damages to my vehicle.


Scientific data tells us that, in most circumstances, if you did strike someone biking within the city limits and ended up killing them, you were probably traveling in excess of posted municipal speed limits and would therefore be culpable for their death. A wrongful death lawsuit could then be filed against you. Although this assumes that the police unit in charge of the investigation ever got around to releasing your information to the victim's family.


If I’m passing through an intersection on a green light at the posted speed limit of say, 30 mph, like on Nebraska Ave, and some idiot on a bike runs a red light and goes out in front of me, they’re probably going to get killed. Especially if they’re not wearing a helmet - which a lot of riders seem not to do, especially on bike share bikes.

The thing is - I have a dash camera. And it records my speed all the time. And the video from the dash camera will clearly show that I’m not at fault.

And after the police watch it and don’t charge me because I’m not at fault, I’ll post the video on YouTube so millions of strangers can watch some dumbass kill themself because they didn’t need to stop.


Look at this bad-ass driver on the internet threatening to kill cyclists with his bad-ass car! What a bad-ass they are! Goodness only knows what they are compensating for . . .
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