Are they going after Obergefell v. Hodges?

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Anonymous wrote:Sad to say it but the LBGTQIA+ lobby FAFOd with forced teaming the trans stuff. Pushing an unpopular 90-10 issue down the throats of the silent majority of middle America was never going to end well.

I'm not saying you're wrong but how is that relevant?

NP. The encroachment of transgender ideology on every area of life after Obergefell has killed public support for gay rights. Republicans now smell blood in the water and think they can roll back gay rights without suffering at the ballotbox. I think they're right.

Killed is a pretty strong word. Have you seen polling that indicates this?

NP. Killed is too strong. But polls are showing a sharp decline of support for trans rights overall.

New, new poster. I see the backlash, focused on trans people in particular, but gay marriage is woven into society now in a way that most normal Americans won't allow to be undone. Everyone has a gay neighbor, niece, friend, teacher or co-worker. That cake is baked.

Gay marriage owes its existence to a savvy public relations campaign launched when Republicans were more focused on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the recession, than on gays. Public support for gay marriage is very soft in the sense that the majority of those who say they supported don't really care and don't consider it an issue worth changing their vote over.

The new public relations campaign against gay marriage that conservatives have launched is working. The way gays have strapped themselves to the grenade that is trans activism is an own goal that further helps conservatives. Bookmark this thread and come back to admit you were wrong when Obergefell falls. It's coming.

On the plus side, there will be useful lessons for other social justice movements to learn from how gays built and then took down their own movement. Future social justice movements will have less hubris and be a lot more cautious, I believe.

It's not hubris to want to be acknowledged a human with equal rights. You're disgusting.

It IS hubris to decide that public acceptance of gay marriage means you can force all sorts of other fringe sexualities on the country. You confused tolerance with acclaim. You can call names all you want, but the backlash is here and you brought it on yourself.

No. Hubris is thinking the ugliness you espouse is acceptable to civilized people.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad to say it but the LBGTQIA+ lobby FAFOd with forced teaming the trans stuff. Pushing an unpopular 90-10 issue down the throats of the silent majority of middle America was never going to end well.

I'm not saying you're wrong but how is that relevant?

NP. The encroachment of transgender ideology on every area of life after Obergefell has killed public support for gay rights. Republicans now smell blood in the water and think they can roll back gay rights without suffering at the ballotbox. I think they're right.

Killed is a pretty strong word. Have you seen polling that indicates this?

NP. Killed is too strong. But polls are showing a sharp decline of support for trans rights overall.

New, new poster. I see the backlash, focused on trans people in particular, but gay marriage is woven into society now in a way that most normal Americans won't allow to be undone. Everyone has a gay neighbor, niece, friend, teacher or co-worker. That cake is baked.

Gay marriage owes its existence to a savvy public relations campaign launched when Republicans were more focused on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the recession, than on gays. Public support for gay marriage is very soft in the sense that the majority of those who say they supported don't really care and don't consider it an issue worth changing their vote over.

The new public relations campaign against gay marriage that conservatives have launched is working. The way gays have strapped themselves to the grenade that is trans activism is an own goal that further helps conservatives. Bookmark this thread and come back to admit you were wrong when Obergefell falls. It's coming.

On the plus side, there will be useful lessons for other social justice movements to learn from how gays built and then took down their own movement. Future social justice movements will have less hubris and be a lot more cautious, I believe.

It's not hubris to want to be acknowledged a human with equal rights. You're disgusting.

It IS hubris to decide that public acceptance of gay marriage means you can force all sorts of other fringe sexualities on the country. You confused tolerance with acclaim. You can call names all you want, but the backlash is here and you brought it on yourself.

No. Hubris is thinking the ugliness you espouse is acceptable to civilized people.

Quarreling with me online isn't going to help you in real life. Be mad if you want though.

[Anonymous]

"Mainstream" conservative sites like Babylon Bee have hosted fringe cult religious leaders like Doug Wilson who is quoted as asking who would be willing to punish Homosexual acts as described in Leviticus (death penalty) and as wanting to repeal the 19th amendment allowing women the right to vote. The head of our DOD supports him.

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Anonymous wrote:"Mainstream" conservative sites like Babylon Bee have hosted fringe cult religious leaders like Doug Wilson who is quoted as asking who would be willing to punish Homosexual acts as described in Leviticus (death penalty) and as wanting to repeal the 19th amendment allowing women the right to vote. The head of our DOD supports him.

And we are fast heading into a world where random people will demand that women drop trou to prove their gender. https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/minnesota-teen-says-server-forced-prove-gender-restaurant-bathroom-rcna224562 What next, will we be forced to drop trou to prove we're men before we're allowed vote?

And people keep saying "the left has gone too far" - what about the right wing? They've lost their minds and are going even farther than the left.

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yes i believe its getting overturned. oh well.