Sidwell Junior - GPA concerns

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how course rigor plays into everything? A 3.75 student in Multivariable calculus should be considered more highly than a student in AB Calculus by Senior year, I would think!

The colleges are given profiles of the courses and rating for how rigorous the student's coursework has been.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how course rigor plays into everything? A 3.75 student in Multivariable calculus should be considered more highly than a student in AB Calculus by Senior year, I would think!

The schools that know sidwell's reputation will care about rigor. The schools that care about their incoming class's GPA won't

Please name some colleges that know sidwell's reputation and care about rigor.

Please name some colleges that care about their incoming class's GPA and don't care rigor.

Basically big state schools don’t care. Everybody else does.

False, the UC system, Michigan, Wisonsin, UVA and others have regional reps from the AO that know these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Our kids had ~3.75 at Sidwell and are both attending "T20" schools, though not "top Ivy's" - they didn't apply because neither wanted more of the SFS type culture. Nothing wrong with it, they both just wanted something different.

Did this plan work for them? Serious question. I have a student that seems to think attending another tough school other than a top ivy will be somehow be dramatically different. These type of schools are full of aggressive, high performing students from number 1 down to number 20 and probably beyond. Plus the real world is full of these types. I am not sure his plan to aim a little lower than the top will solve this problem in any way.

Should not they just develop the skills to deal with the fact that plenty of things of life are difficult and competitive. Find a way to cope.

Yes, working out for both of them. Neither wanted the small new england experience, nor the Ivy experience. Both happy with their choices and paths for post-college.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell Median GPA: 3.55, Median SAT: 1510

Where did you get this data? The median Sidwell SAT in 2019 was 1310...did it really jump 200 points in 3 years?

According to this (quite authoritative source for comparisons across schools as well), Sidwell median SAT a few years back was 1480:

https://graphics.wsj.com/dynamic-inset-iframer/?url=https://asset.wsj.net/wsjnewsgraphics/dice/ADVERSITY-e4e29395-d059-499c-aa63-6f10f4132367/inset.json&layout=bleed

Why does that show Sidwell with only 70-something test takers? And only 43 reported for St. Albans?

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell Median GPA: 3.55, Median SAT: 1510

Where did you get this data? The median Sidwell SAT in 2019 was 1310...did it really jump 200 points in 3 years?

According to this (quite authoritative source for comparisons across schools as well), Sidwell median SAT a few years back was 1480:

https://graphics.wsj.com/dynamic-inset-iframer/?url=https://asset.wsj.net/wsjnewsgraphics/dice/ADVERSITY-e4e29395-d059-499c-aa63-6f10f4132367/inset.json&layout=bleed

Why does that show Sidwell with only 70-something test takers? And only 43 reported for St. Albans?

Good Q. About 1/2 - 2/3 probably take the test (rather than ACT). The numbers are off but not too far off. As I understand it, thees are NOT self reported scores. They come directly from the college board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t private school parents DEMAND to see the real school profile with grade distributions? That should not be private information people-you are paying for the school and they shouldn’t be allowed to withhold this very important data! The BS they publish on the website is irrelevant! At least Maret gives an average Gpa on their published School Profile.

https://resources.finalsite.net/images/v1665164459/maret/cvhkhz1fyj0cei6s4emr/Maret-Profile-2022_2023.pdf

DEMAND WITH A CAPITOL D! Jackson Reed parent whose kid was waitlisted at Sidwell & GDS. My son got a 3.7 in a mediocre academy. He and his cohort have had outstanding early acceptances this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell Median GPA: 3.55, Median SAT: 1510

I call BS on this. Please provide a link for this.

Why would you think it’s bs? It’s perfectly in love with what I know from being a parent of kids in multiple grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how course rigor plays into everything? A 3.75 student in Multivariable calculus should be considered more highly than a student in AB Calculus by Senior year, I would think!

The schools that know sidwell's reputation will care about rigor. The schools that care about their incoming class's GPA won't

Please name some colleges that know sidwell's reputation and care about rigor.

Please name some colleges that care about their incoming class's GPA and don't care rigor.

Basically big state schools don’t care. Everybody else does.

False, the UC system, Michigan, Wisonsin, UVA and others have regional reps from the AO that know these schools.

They also have tens of thousands of applicants and care a lot about class GPA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell Median GPA: 3.55, Median SAT: 1510

Where did you get this data? The median Sidwell SAT in 2019 was 1310...did it really jump 200 points in 3 years?

According to this (quite authoritative source for comparisons across schools as well), Sidwell median SAT a few years back was 1480:

https://graphics.wsj.com/dynamic-inset-iframer/?url=https://asset.wsj.net/wsjnewsgraphics/dice/ADVERSITY-e4e29395-d059-499c-aa63-6f10f4132367/inset.json&layout=bleed

Why does that show Sidwell with only 70-something test takers? And only 43 reported for St. Albans?

Because it is totally garbage data.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell Median GPA: 3.55, Median SAT: 1510

Where did you get this data? The median Sidwell SAT in 2019 was 1310...did it really jump 200 points in 3 years?

According to this (quite authoritative source for comparisons across schools as well), Sidwell median SAT a few years back was 1480:

https://graphics.wsj.com/dynamic-inset-iframer/?url=https://asset.wsj.net/wsjnewsgraphics/dice/ADVERSITY-e4e29395-d059-499c-aa63-6f10f4132367/inset.json&layout=bleed

Why does that show Sidwell with only 70-something test takers? And only 43 reported for St. Albans?

Because it is totally garbage data.

TROLL Alert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how course rigor plays into everything? A 3.75 student in Multivariable calculus should be considered more highly than a student in AB Calculus by Senior year, I would think!

Agreed. As should the Math I-IV sequence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how course rigor plays into everything? A 3.75 student in Multivariable calculus should be considered more highly than a student in AB Calculus by Senior year, I would think!

Agreed. As should the Math I-IV sequence.

No one need worry. Colleges have been doing this for years. AOs can slot kids into bins very very fast. The value of the "highest" levels of math/science rigor also diminishes (as it perhaps should) as one gets away from core STEM fields (Engg, CS, Math etc). Once you get past a certain level of HS performance, AOs pivot to much fuzzier criteria anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know how course rigor plays into everything? A 3.75 student in Multivariable calculus should be considered more highly than a student in AB Calculus by Senior year, I would think!

The schools that know sidwell's reputation will care about rigor. The schools that care about their incoming class's GPA won't

Please name some colleges that know sidwell's reputation and care about rigor.

Please name some colleges that care about their incoming class's GPA and don't care rigor.

Basically big state schools don’t care. Everybody else does.

False, the UC system, Michigan, Wisonsin, UVA and others have regional reps from the AO that know these schools.

They also have tens of thousands of applicants and care a lot about class GPA[/quote]

Also, Michigan seems to care about test scores-80% of enrolled students submitted them.

[Anonymous]

An example of a better school profile with GPA distribution info:

https://saintanselms.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/1555/download/download_2832649.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An example of a better school profile with GPA distribution info:

https://saintanselms.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/1555/download/download_2832649.pdf

That would be nice for all schools to share. But it’ll never happen. We'll just keep on having people guessing that 3.55 was average GPA at Sidwell when that has never been true in the past.