TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

And the hard core Republicans think this is the best Supreme Court ever.

Extreme positions may benefit some in the short term but will elicit a sharp response. And the pendulum will swing again.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

Great job?!?!?!? seriously, I thought we were getting somewhere.....

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

The drop rate is down YoY. I think it's because the more naturally gifted students they're selecting now that they've closed the prep/privilege loophole seem to do better.

Nah, the current students just entered TJ at a time when FCPS was lowering its standards across-the-board. It's no different from the system-wide announcements about high graduation rates.

True test will be the PSAT next Fall. And College admits eventually if you want to wait till then. Of course the narrative then will be that TJ is not a means for better college outcomes, it is a pathway to appreciation of STEM (like an art history course you would do in college)

The fallacy is that the PSAT results are meaningful. The PSAT is a just practice test. Many TJ kids have mastered this sort of test of basic algebra/trig when they prepared for TJ. Studying for years for a math test improves your score. Knowing test taking strategies improves your score.

Yes. Studying for a years for a math test does improve your score!!

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

The drop rate is down YoY. I think it's because the more naturally gifted students they're selecting now that they've closed the prep/privilege loophole seem to do better.

Nah, the current students just entered TJ at a time when FCPS was lowering its standards across-the-board. It's no different from the system-wide announcements about high graduation rates.

True test will be the PSAT next Fall. And College admits eventually if you want to wait till then. Of course the narrative then will be that TJ is not a means for better college outcomes, it is a pathway to appreciation of STEM (like an art history course you would do in college)

The fallacy is that the PSAT results are meaningful. The PSAT is a just practice test. Many TJ kids have mastered this sort of test of basic algebra/trig when they prepared for TJ. Studying for years for a math test improves your score. Knowing test taking strategies improves your score.

Yes. Studying for a years for a math test does improve your score!!

At least they worked hard to achieve their goals. If they do the same thing when they grow up, they will also be successful in their career. It's better than those students/parents who want the credits but never want to pay the efforts.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

The drop rate is down YoY. I think it's because the more naturally gifted students they're selecting now that they've closed the prep/privilege loophole seem to do better.

Nah, the current students just entered TJ at a time when FCPS was lowering its standards across-the-board. It's no different from the system-wide announcements about high graduation rates.

True test will be the PSAT next Fall. And College admits eventually if you want to wait till then. Of course the narrative then will be that TJ is not a means for better college outcomes, it is a pathway to appreciation of STEM (like an art history course you would do in college)

The fallacy is that the PSAT results are meaningful. The PSAT is a just practice test. Many TJ kids have mastered this sort of test of basic algebra/trig when they prepared for TJ. Studying for years for a math test improves your score. Knowing test taking strategies improves your score.

Yes. Studying for a years for a math test does improve your score!!

At least they worked hard to achieve their goals. If they do the same thing when they grow up, they will also be successful in their career. It's better than those students/parents who want the credits but never want to pay the efforts.

I am desperately thinking about how to use flowery progressive language to prove that hard work is racist. After all, it should just be enough that I am white.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.

“Political miscalculation”?

The nutters all sound alike. Hysteria. Irrational.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.

+1

Great article on the sfo/la primaries yesterday and the backlash against Progressives. It also highlights how Ds took Asian Americans for granted and paid for it. This is what we will see in NoVa as well


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/06/chesa-boudin-recall-is-the-beginning-of-a-backlash.html

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.

“Political miscalculation”?

The nutters all sound alike. Hysteria. Irrational.

“Mama, look no hands”

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.

Thank You, I was hoping most of DCUM was mature enough to not be rabid partisans. Trumpanzies and Wokester Progressives are BOTH idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.

“Political miscalculation”?

The nutters all sound alike. Hysteria. Irrational.

Keep it up! You have a vocabulary of about five words or phrases: "nutters," "RWNJs," "Trumphumpers," "astroturfing," and "Koch." You spew them constantly as if they are a substitute for actual thinking. Maybe it makes a Melanie Meren or a Karl Frisch feel good when they read your posts, but that's about it.

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Anonymous wrote:The TJ bus stop is in front of my house. My office desk faces out that window. In fall, there was 11 TJ kids. Each morning now, there's 6.

I'm in a suburb where all the kids from this area get dropped at this one bus stop for the TJ bus.

Some do carpools after they find friends to carpool with.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.

“Political miscalculation”?

The nutters all sound alike. Hysteria. Irrational.

Keep it up! You have a vocabulary of about five words or phrases: "nutters," "RWNJs," "Trumphumpers," "astroturfing," and "Koch." You spew them constantly as if they are a substitute for actual thinking. Maybe it makes a Melanie Meren or a Karl Frisch feel good when they read your posts, but that's about it.

Awww. Truth hurts.

Nobody likes your irrational hysterics.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.

They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.

That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.

“Political miscalculation”?

The nutters all sound alike. Hysteria. Irrational.

Keep it up! You have a vocabulary of about five words or phrases: "nutters," "RWNJs," "Trumphumpers," "astroturfing," and "Koch." You spew them constantly as if they are a substitute for actual thinking. Maybe it makes a Melanie Meren or a Karl Frisch feel good when they read your posts, but that's about it.

Awww. Truth hurts.

Nobody likes your irrational hysterics.

You are in serious need of (1) a good mirror and (2) a better campaign strategy. Hugs.