TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.


Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.


Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?


Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.


Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.



“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.


They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.



False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?


No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.


Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.


I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.



I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.


I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.


I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.


They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.


That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.


“Political miscalculation”?

The nutters all sound alike. Hysteria. Irrational.


Keep it up! You have a vocabulary of about five words or phrases: "nutters," "RWNJs," "Trumphumpers," "astroturfing," and "Koch." You spew them constantly as if they are a substitute for actual thinking. Maybe it makes a Melanie Meren or a Karl Frisch feel good when they read your posts, but that's about it.


Awww. Truth hurts.

Nobody likes your irrational hysterics.


You are in serious need of (1) a good mirror and (2) a better campaign strategy. Hugs.


+1

She has had to pivot from "TJ has your income information and the 33% FARMS is accurate" to a position of "Cheaters should be kicked out"

She was steadfast that nobody could cheat the perfect FCPS process to the radically different position she defends now.

I think she needs our sympathy. More hugs.
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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.


Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.


Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?


Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.


Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.



“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.


They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.



False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?


No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.


Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.


I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.



I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.


I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.


I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.


They’ve made some dumb mistakes but generally they aren’t terrible.

The people who shriek about them 24x7 are probably the same nutters who think Biden is “worst POTUS ever”.


That seems like a big political miscalculation.

You can be anti-Trump, and either like or be meh about Biden, and still want this School Board to get a Chesa Boudin-style vote of no confidence next year.


“Political miscalculation”?

The nutters all sound alike. Hysteria. Irrational.


Keep it up! You have a vocabulary of about five words or phrases: "nutters," "RWNJs," "Trumphumpers," "astroturfing," and "Koch." You spew them constantly as if they are a substitute for actual thinking. Maybe it makes a Melanie Meren or a Karl Frisch feel good when they read your posts, but that's about it.


Awww. Truth hurts.

Nobody likes your irrational hysterics.


You are in serious need of (1) a good mirror and (2) a better campaign strategy. Hugs.


+1

She has had to pivot from "TJ has your income information and the 33% FARMS is accurate" to a position of "Cheaters should be kicked out"

She was steadfast that nobody could cheat the perfect FCPS process to the radically different position she defends now.

I think she needs our sympathy. More hugs.


You are confusing posters. I haven’t explicitly said that I think cheaters should be kicked out but I have posed the question wondering what TJ would do if they discovered cheaters. And I never said TJ has income info or the 33% was accurate.

Sorry, you’re obsessing over someone else.
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Hi!

I am the op of this 2022 thread.

Apparently, there were 130 drop-outs last year.

Current thoughts on this??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?


#fakenews
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?


#fakenews


Ah - the “equity troll” has found this thread; no, it is not “fake news.”

The class of 2025 admitted 550 students.

Now there are only 441 students in the class 2025. That 441 includes ~15-20 students joining TJ as sophomores .

Simple addition results in:

- 130 students in the class of 2025 went back to their base schools.

This data is available right on FCPS websites, including the school profile site.


The fact is: the revised admission criteria is resulting in kids dropping out at a rate approximately ten times higher than pre-revision TJ admissions.
Anonymous
Only 4 freshmen dropped this year, 3 juniors, and 1 junior. This is according to FCPS school profiles website
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?


#fakenews


Ah - the “equity troll” has found this thread; no, it is not “fake news.”

The class of 2025 admitted 550 students.

Now there are only 441 students in the class 2025. That 441 includes ~15-20 students joining TJ as sophomores .

Simple addition results in:

- 130 students in the class of 2025 went back to their base schools.

This data is available right on FCPS websites, including the school profile site.


The fact is: the revised admission criteria is resulting in kids dropping out at a rate approximately ten times higher than pre-revision TJ admissions.


550 were admitted, or 550 enrolled?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?


#fakenews


Ah - the “equity troll” has found this thread; no, it is not “fake news.”

The class of 2025 admitted 550 students.

Now there are only 441 students in the class 2025. That 441 includes ~15-20 students joining TJ as sophomores .

Simple addition results in:

- 130 students in the class of 2025 went back to their base schools.

This data is available right on FCPS websites, including the school profile site.


The fact is: the revised admission criteria is resulting in kids dropping out at a rate approximately ten times higher than pre-revision TJ admissions.


550 were admitted, or 550 enrolled?


TJ enrolled 541 freshmen in the fall of 2021. There are currently 503 juniors.

Even assuming there were some sophomore admits, the attrition from the original Class of 2025 wouldn’t appear to be anywhere near 130 students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?


#fakenews


Ah - the “equity troll” has found this thread; no, it is not “fake news.”

The class of 2025 admitted 550 students.

Now there are only 441 students in the class 2025. That 441 includes ~15-20 students joining TJ as sophomores .

Simple addition results in:

- 130 students in the class of 2025 went back to their base schools.

This data is available right on FCPS websites, including the school profile site.


The fact is: the revised admission criteria is resulting in kids dropping out at a rate approximately ten times higher than pre-revision TJ admissions.


550 were admitted, or 550 enrolled?


TJ enrolled 541 freshmen in the fall of 2021. There are currently 503 juniors.

Even assuming there were some sophomore admits, the attrition from the original Class of 2025 wouldn’t appear to be anywhere near 130 students.

There are currently 447 juniors. You are right it's not 130, but 103. That's mostly the Algebra1 kids who went back to base school.
Let's hope School Board has the decency to apologize to each drop-off for putting them through this ordeal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?


#fakenews


Ah - the “equity troll” has found this thread; no, it is not “fake news.”

The class of 2025 admitted 550 students.

Now there are only 441 students in the class 2025. That 441 includes ~15-20 students joining TJ as sophomores .

Simple addition results in:

- 130 students in the class of 2025 went back to their base schools.

This data is available right on FCPS websites, including the school profile site.


The fact is: the revised admission criteria is resulting in kids dropping out at a rate approximately ten times higher than pre-revision TJ admissions.


550 were admitted, or 550 enrolled?


TJ enrolled 541 freshmen in the fall of 2021. There are currently 503 juniors.

Even assuming there were some sophomore admits, the attrition from the original Class of 2025 wouldn’t appear to be anywhere near 130 students.

There are currently 447 juniors. You are right it's not 130, but 103. That's mostly the Algebra1 kids who went back to base school.
Let's hope School Board has the decency to apologize to each drop-off for putting them through this ordeal.


103 wows. This is blowing up on their face.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?


#fakenews


Ah - the “equity troll” has found this thread; no, it is not “fake news.”

The class of 2025 admitted 550 students.

Now there are only 441 students in the class 2025. That 441 includes ~15-20 students joining TJ as sophomores .

Simple addition results in:

- 130 students in the class of 2025 went back to their base schools.

This data is available right on FCPS websites, including the school profile site.


The fact is: the revised admission criteria is resulting in kids dropping out at a rate approximately ten times higher than pre-revision TJ admissions.


550 were admitted, or 550 enrolled?


TJ enrolled 541 freshmen in the fall of 2021. There are currently 503 juniors.

Even assuming there were some sophomore admits, the attrition from the original Class of 2025 wouldn’t appear to be anywhere near 130 students.

There are currently 447 juniors. You are right it's not 130, but 103. That's mostly the Algebra1 kids who went back to base school.
Let's hope School Board has the decency to apologize to each drop-off for putting them through this ordeal.


No, dumb ass, there are currently 503 juniors. I was polite before but you keep repeating false information even when corrected. So shut up until you can manage to get your facts straight.
Anonymous
When equity minions are countered with facts, resorting to profanity is a predictable reaction. That's when the facts truly become relevant.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TJ DROPOUTS
(sept - jan)

2021-22
6 asian
4 hispanic
1 white

2020-21
4 asian

2019-20
1 asian
1 hispanic

2018-19
7 asian
1 black
1 hispanic
2 white

2017-18
6 asian


Fast-forward to today in April 2024:

- 130 drop-outs


130 from first year class? How get this number?


#fakenews


Ah - the “equity troll” has found this thread; no, it is not “fake news.”

The class of 2025 admitted 550 students.

Now there are only 441 students in the class 2025. That 441 includes ~15-20 students joining TJ as sophomores .

Simple addition results in:

- 130 students in the class of 2025 went back to their base schools.

This data is available right on FCPS websites, including the school profile site.


The fact is: the revised admission criteria is resulting in kids dropping out at a rate approximately ten times higher than pre-revision TJ admissions.


550 were admitted, or 550 enrolled?


TJ enrolled 541 freshmen in the fall of 2021. There are currently 503 juniors.

Even assuming there were some sophomore admits, the attrition from the original Class of 2025 wouldn’t appear to be anywhere near 130 students.

There are currently 447 juniors. You are right it's not 130, but 103. That's mostly the Algebra1 kids who went back to base school.
Let's hope School Board has the decency to apologize to each drop-off for putting them through this ordeal.

It takes courage and character to accept one's mistakes, both of which school board lacks. Feel sorry for the innocent students.
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