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Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS)
I’m all for fully funding public schools, but if money alone was all that determined educational outcomes, DCPS would be the best public school system in the country. |
Thrive is not aimed at homeowners, except for those who plan to sell to developers. It's aimed at the future voting base. |
We don't need to provide equivalent outcomes, just equivalent opportunities. And that means considerably more funding for a highly heterogenous demographic school (especially socio-economically)than for a highly homogeneous one. It's more costly to address the needs of outliers. |
+1000 This. From property to impact taxes to consulting contracts, MCPS’s resources have been systematically attacked and hollowed out by soft corruption. |
DP. Sure. Fine with that. It happens now here in this county where high FARMS schools get significantly more than non FARMS. What's the outcome been like?? |
Sure, but that's why we need more funding overall. If we need to address high-FARMS/Title I with differential funding, it comes out of the overall MCPS budget pie. So...more taxes. Or less spending elsewhere. Or we could argue for better management, but splitting up the county just leaves more of a haves & have nots on any of these fronts than we do today. |
What are you going to do with that extra funding that we already aren't doing?? Kids are getting free breakfast, lunches and in some cases weekend meals. There's free tutoring. In some high schools, free health services for students and their families. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Many want SROs back for an extra later of safety but there's no political will to do that and that was coming out of the MCPD budget anyway. We could add more mental health workers but thats already in the budget..they just didn't hire them. What would you do with the extra funding to fix schools exactly? |
You are not making a point or at least one that makes any sense. Class sizes through elementary grades at high FARMS schools are capped at about 75% class sizes for low FARMS schools. Funds to support opportunity for these kids are never cut. Beyond Title I schools, MCPS extended this to what they have defined as “Focus” schools, which is essentially schools in Takoma Park so white people can get lower class sizes because some high FARMS kids don’t live near them but close enough. In ES, there are fully funded programs for ESL. There are fully funded programs for counseling. Fully funded programs to support reading. Etc. MCPS has dedicated significant resources to these kids to provide equality of opportunity. If you talk to teachers, what you would find out is that these resources are not highly effective for many kids because they come to school unprepared. There is only so much you can do in school. |
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How to fix MCPS? Make lying to the Public a crime?
MCPS spent 1.6 M on Kids Museum, 160M on electric buses and has a billion dollar budget. If they say they need more funding overall, or that they can't pay teachers, etc. I don't buy it. |
I feel like these issues used to be a big scandal but at some point in the last decade they were lost from the collective memory and we don’t hear about it anymore. I would guess that it is probably linked to the lack of reporting on local issues due to WaPo closing the Gazette and seemingly no longer assigning a reporter to the local MoCo beat. Also, with more entrenched one party rule there seems to be less concern within the government for oversight. It’s a recipe for disaster. |
I didn’t know they spent $160 million on electric buses. Seriously? |
Thank you! Finally a rational person enters the debate….your school system is in decline and until you recognize ALL of the factors you have no hope. Calling everyone a racist isn’t a policy change. Also your pols want to grow the Democratic Party because they don’t want to simply stay in their MoCo roles! It’s called ambition. Gosh some of you are dense. If you want to be governor for instance (and you are from Moco) you will need a lot of Hispanic voters let’s say to offset your losses on the Eastern Shore and Western Maryland. Look for your pols to next push for undocumented citizens to vote - just like New York’s recently introduced bill. Betting Casa de Maryland is working on the language (in English and Spanish) as I type. They are absolutely a force to be admired - and your schools are largely at the mercy of their agenda. |
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As far as what to do with extra funding, maybe
Fix the dilapidated structures so that we don't have some kids learning in brand new facilities with ample programming space and others in facilites that lack programming space, have active leaks, terrible HVAC and closed bathroom facilities from sewage backup. Ensure better access to classes for kids on IEPs with enough specialists so that there isn't a tug on the individual school administration to properly accommodate. Right now, there is a tendency to try to offload kids with special needs. Ensure that any kid identified as needing accelerated or enriched instruction is afforded that either in situ, if there is a local cohort, or in a nearby center/magnet, if not. Right now, there are schools that don't offer all the options, there are others that don't address the needs of all the kids identified and there aren't even close to the number of center/magnet/special program seats to accommodate the need. Ensure teacher supplies are funded by the school system instead of by appeals to parent donations (or out of the teachers' pockets). Pay enough to retain high quality teachers, identify where they are and incentivize serving at schools to roughly equalize their distribution across the county. Pay enough to ensure high quality substitutes, too, so that there's real learning happening on days when a teacher (gasp!) gets sick or has some other life event for which the rest of us normally take leave. (Your enterprise has a continuity of operations plan for such, I hope!) Ensure meaningful, robust and flexible virtual options for those that need it. I mean, just look at all the requests and ideas on DCUM, from MCCPTA and from parents or students at the BOE metings. Envision how those get accomplished in a way that is fair to students/families on the basis of serving individual needs with equivalent opportunities. It takes $ to make most of that happen. Do it well, and think of the effect. We'd be talking about regular boundary changes to address operational needs instead of gerrymandered boundary changes for equity's sake.
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| Kick out the children of citizens who don’t pay taxes and don’t want to be in school. If the parents are on welfare and the kids refuse to act appropriate in school, there’s no use wasting money on educating them. |
DP There is SO much wasted money in MCPS. Once you start paying attention, you’ll be appalled. |