Valor

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Anonymous wrote:Valor doesn't develop players so even though they have many players in a given age group,
they are mediocre and can't compete at NVA level.



+1. Mathematically, they should have more star players simply due to their enormous horde of players. Very few rise to the top due to poor training.
Anonymous
Do other clubs have entire age groups training together at any point, or are players always grouped by team at all practices? One problem (of several) I have with Valor is their “academy” practice where the whole age group is together. It does not help the top team players at all to be training with kids who can’t even receive a pass. Valor should have 3 teams max at every age group. The talent pool simply is not deep enough to support 4 or 5 teams. But they are greedy so they keep doing it…
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Anonymous wrote:Do other clubs have entire age groups training together at any point, or are players always grouped by team at all practices? One problem (of several) I have with Valor is their “academy” practice where the whole age group is together. It does not help the top team players at all to be training with kids who can’t even receive a pass. Valor should have 3 teams max at every age group. The talent pool simply is not deep enough to support 4 or 5 teams. But they are greedy so they keep doing it…


It saves them money (one coach overseeing 50 kids).
Anonymous
My friend's son last year had a coach with two teams who combined practices with the older and younger team. So the older kids got crappy practices with no attention from the coach, and the lame academy practice. Team looked worse in May then they did in august!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do other clubs have entire age groups training together at any point, or are players always grouped by team at all practices? One problem (of several) I have with Valor is their “academy” practice where the whole age group is together. It does not help the top team players at all to be training with kids who can’t even receive a pass. Valor should have 3 teams max at every age group. The talent pool simply is not deep enough to support 4 or 5 teams. But they are greedy so they keep doing it…

Our academy experience with valor is different than you describe so that must vary based on age groups. We didn't mix teams just different coaches (I would have preferred your scenerio).
Our previous small club with only one team per age group academy was U9-U12 or U13. Was great for my U9 I'm sure it wasn't as good for the older kids. I viewed academy night as a fun extra practice.
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Anonymous wrote:30 percent or so of NVA is made up of valor right?
nope.. i would wager its like 1%
2013 boys NVA will mostly be valor if they decide to go there. There are many kids who decide to avoid NVA for many reasons noted on prior posts.
nope would never happen. Loudoun takes care of loudoun. Would suspect if they are as good maybe 2-3 make it.
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Anonymous wrote:30 percent or so of NVA is made up of valor right?
nope.. i would wager its like 1%
2013 boys NVA will mostly be valor if they decide to go there. There are many kids who decide to avoid NVA for many reasons noted on prior posts.
nope would never happen. Loudoun takes care of loudoun. Would suspect if they are as good maybe 2-3 make it.


The 2013 boys beat the Loudoun team in the fall and are ranked 5th in VA on GotSport compared to Loudoun who is 23rd (yes I know, take the rankings with a grain of salt). If most of those kids don't make NVA, you can see where this "alliance" is going.
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Anonymous wrote:30 percent or so of NVA is made up of valor right?
nope.. i would wager its like 1%
2013 boys NVA will mostly be valor if they decide to go there. There are many kids who decide to avoid NVA for many reasons noted on prior posts.
nope would never happen. Loudoun takes care of loudoun. Would suspect if they are as good maybe 2-3 make it.


The 2013 boys beat the Loudoun team in the fall and are ranked 5th in VA on GotSport compared to Loudoun who is 23rd (yes I know, take the rankings with a grain of salt). If most of those kids don't make NVA, you can see where this "alliance" is going.


Biggest clue that their u-little is also their oldest soccer playing kid, mentioning Gotsport.
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Anonymous wrote:30 percent or so of NVA is made up of valor right?
nope.. i would wager its like 1%
2013 boys NVA will mostly be valor if they decide to go there. There are many kids who decide to avoid NVA for many reasons noted on prior posts.
nope would never happen. Loudoun takes care of loudoun. Would suspect if they are as good maybe 2-3 make it.


The 2013 boys beat the Loudoun team in the fall and are ranked 5th in VA on GotSport compared to Loudoun who is 23rd (yes I know, take the rankings with a grain of salt). If most of those kids don't make NVA, you can see where this "alliance" is going.


I think NVA will ignore the better players from Valor 2013B, that way the alliance move one step further into imploding and they can pivot to MLSN. It is all part of their plan.
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Anonymous wrote:30 percent or so of NVA is made up of valor right?
nope.. i would wager its like 1%
2013 boys NVA will mostly be valor if they decide to go there. There are many kids who decide to avoid NVA for many reasons noted on prior posts.
nope would never happen. Loudoun takes care of loudoun. Would suspect if they are as good maybe 2-3 make it.


it is 100% improvement from 1 they recruited from valor last year. improvement!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:30 percent or so of NVA is made up of valor right?
nope.. i would wager its like 1%
2013 boys NVA will mostly be valor if they decide to go there. There are many kids who decide to avoid NVA for many reasons noted on prior posts.
nope would never happen. Loudoun takes care of loudoun. Would suspect if they are as good maybe 2-3 make it.


This kind of mindset is failing Loudoun big time. and it shows what's been happening for last 10 years. 2011 and older kids are competitive. but 2012 and younger groups are not that good at all. mediocre at best. it's so bad that 2012 NVA team have to depend on 2013 Valor players to play with them.
Anonymous
So is it better to be on Valor’s first team or Loudoun’s second team, in terms of chances of making NVA? Or do neither have a realistic chance of making it over kids from outside either club?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So is it better to be on Valor’s first team or Loudoun’s second team, in terms of chances of making NVA? Or do neither have a realistic chance of making it over kids from outside either club?


Outside > Loundon 2nd team > Valor top team in terms of Loundon preference.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So is it better to be on Valor’s first team or Loudoun’s second team, in terms of chances of making NVA? Or do neither have a realistic chance of making it over kids from outside either club?


Loudoun, always. As with places like VDA, the main club takes 90% of their top kids and one or two from whomever they are 'aligned with' to hold up the veil of why they are even doing it (ecnl rules on multiple leagues). It's not about talent it's about payment pipeline. Look at any NVA team and you can count on 1 hand the players that didn't come up through Loudoun.
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Anonymous wrote:30 percent or so of NVA is made up of valor right?
nope.. i would wager its like 1%
2013 boys NVA will mostly be valor if they decide to go there. There are many kids who decide to avoid NVA for many reasons noted on prior posts.
nope would never happen. Loudoun takes care of loudoun. Would suspect if they are as good maybe 2-3 make it.


The 2013 boys beat the Loudoun team in the fall and are ranked 5th in VA on GotSport compared to Loudoun who is 23rd (yes I know, take the rankings with a grain of salt). If most of those kids don't make NVA, you can see where this "alliance" is going.
doesnt matter. The club is incestuous. NVA coaches get more looks at loudoun kids. And build relationships. Valor alliance is a farce. PE just joined into it to get more money from the suckers.
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