ECNL moving to school year not calendar

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?


Those clubs will build the strongest rosters possible so they can win.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?


I doubt anyone can answer that question. There will be tryouts and you will have a bunch of 4th quarter kids that are probably currently on 2nd teams that may be better than the top team kids a year younger.
Complete speculation here but I don't think a change from BY to SY is going to make clubs any more likely to promote players. They will be more likely to demote and bring in new players though.

So as always, promotion via finding a different club might be the better path. I don't think clubs will be able to get the biases out of their heads at tryouts that this kid is an A team player and this kid is a B team player, etc. Heck, many kids seem to get demoted late in the process so they can't tryout at other teams anyway.

But over the following year, it will become more obvious who belongs where and the loyal kids that got demoted or sent to the bench will be looking to bounce the following year.

Meaning I expect this to be a 2 year shuffle not a free for all at tryouts this year.

Just speculation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?

I have a trapped G2010 and I reached out to several top 2011 coaches.

The 2011 coaches referred me to their 2010 coaches or their DOC. When I spoke with them on the phone they all offered a tryout assessment. The all also said that they don't know what will happen with BY v SY.

These are some of the top clubs in the nation. If they don't know what will happen with BY and aren't specifically looking for trapped players. The idiots that are saying SY is a lock aren't being honest.

First tryout is at 4:30 today. PST



Wow, that is interesting for sure.

As a follow up question, why are you looking at other clubs? Are you worried your kids is going to have to play down?

Are you worried that the 2011 team is not as good as others in the area?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?

I have a trapped G2010 and I reached out to several top 2011 coaches.

The 2011 coaches referred me to their 2010 coaches or their DOC. When I spoke with them on the phone they all offered a tryout assessment. The all also said that they don't know what will happen with BY v SY.

These are some of the top clubs in the nation. If they don't know what will happen with BY and aren't specifically looking for trapped players. The idiots that are saying SY is a lock aren't being honest.

First tryout is at 4:30 today. PST



I assume this means the tryout is with the 2010 team, not 2011 yet?
Anonymous
So now we have a poster that has reached out to top clubs in the country and even those clubs cannot confirm if we are going SY or BY.

Everything is fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?


I doubt anyone can answer that question. There will be tryouts and you will have a bunch of 4th quarter kids that are probably currently on 2nd teams that may be better than the top team kids a year younger.
Complete speculation here but I don't think a change from BY to SY is going to make clubs any more likely to promote players. They will be more likely to demote and bring in new players though.

So as always, promotion via finding a different club might be the better path. I don't think clubs will be able to get the biases out of their heads at tryouts that this kid is an A team player and this kid is a B team player, etc. Heck, many kids seem to get demoted late in the process so they can't tryout at other teams anyway.

But over the following year, it will become more obvious who belongs where and the loyal kids that got demoted or sent to the bench will be looking to bounce the following year.

Meaning I expect this to be a 2 year shuffle not a free for all at tryouts this year.

Just speculation.


Clubs are most likely all going to align and have a similar strategy.

They rank players on each team and I’m sure there will be some reshuffling.

This is going to be a disaster for millions of kids.
Anonymous
I guess someone trying out in October? Is that common?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?


I doubt anyone can answer that question. There will be tryouts and you will have a bunch of 4th quarter kids that are probably currently on 2nd teams that may be better than the top team kids a year younger.


So essentially this will be a battle of who can fill their team with the most trapped kids
Anonymous
I mean there is 100 pages of parents saying all the q4 kids just aren't good. So I'm sure they have nothing to worry about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I mean there is 100 pages of parents saying all the q4 kids just aren't good. So I'm sure they have nothing to worry about.


I'm also told good players don't care about having friends on their teams, so they won't lose any sleep over telling some bench teammates "good luck on the B team, you should have worked harder."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?

I have a trapped G2010 and I reached out to several top 2011 coaches.

The 2011 coaches referred me to their 2010 coaches or their DOC. When I spoke with them on the phone they all offered a tryout assessment. The all also said that they don't know what will happen with BY v SY.

These are some of the top clubs in the nation. If they don't know what will happen with BY and aren't specifically looking for trapped players. The idiots that are saying SY is a lock aren't being honest.

First tryout is at 4:30 today. PST



I would imagine coaches have been told to not say a word bc it will cause chaos.

There will be chaos regardless. Parents of kids both trapped and not trapped now need to plan for scenario A, B, C and D
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?

I have a trapped G2010 and I reached out to several top 2011 coaches.

The 2011 coaches referred me to their 2010 coaches or their DOC. When I spoke with them on the phone they all offered a tryout assessment. The all also said that they don't know what will happen with BY v SY.

These are some of the top clubs in the nation. If they don't know what will happen with BY and aren't specifically looking for trapped players. The idiots that are saying SY is a lock aren't being honest.

First tryout is at 4:30 today. PST



I would imagine coaches have been told to not say a word bc it will cause chaos.

There will be chaos regardless. Parents of kids both trapped and not trapped now need to plan for scenario A, B, C and D

If this was true DOCs would be looking for and recruiting trapped players.

This is not happing.(right now)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?

I have a trapped G2010 and I reached out to several top 2011 coaches.

The 2011 coaches referred me to their 2010 coaches or their DOC. When I spoke with them on the phone they all offered a tryout assessment. The all also said that they don't know what will happen with BY v SY.

These are some of the top clubs in the nation. If they don't know what will happen with BY and aren't specifically looking for trapped players. The idiots that are saying SY is a lock aren't being honest.

First tryout is at 4:30 today. PST



I would imagine coaches have been told to not say a word bc it will cause chaos.

There will be chaos regardless. Parents of kids both trapped and not trapped now need to plan for scenario A, B, C and D

If this was true DOCs would be looking for and recruiting trapped players.

This is not happing.(right now)


Again, if they start making calls or recruiting, it would break the seal and panic would take place all over the country
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I mean there is 100 pages of parents saying all the q4 kids just aren't good. So I'm sure they have nothing to worry about.

Haha this is so true.

I have a g2010 trapped player that starts and if this change happens someone on a 2011 team is no longer starting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any coaches on here that can guide me through how most clubs with pursue this?

1. Do you think clubs will keep rosters the same?

2. Do you think clubs will build the strongest possible teams?

How does a club approach this change?

I would imagine top clubs like SD Surf, SLSG, FC Stars, PDA will keep teams the same so that they can play other clubs older players?

I have a trapped G2010 and I reached out to several top 2011 coaches.

The 2011 coaches referred me to their 2010 coaches or their DOC. When I spoke with them on the phone they all offered a tryout assessment. The all also said that they don't know what will happen with BY v SY.

These are some of the top clubs in the nation. If they don't know what will happen with BY and aren't specifically looking for trapped players. The idiots that are saying SY is a lock aren't being honest.

First tryout is at 4:30 today. PST



I would imagine coaches have been told to not say a word bc it will cause chaos.

There will be chaos regardless. Parents of kids both trapped and not trapped now need to plan for scenario A, B, C and D

If this was true DOCs would be looking for and recruiting trapped players.

This is not happing.(right now)


Again, if they start making calls or recruiting, it would break the seal and panic would take place all over the country

You think ECNL and US Soccer is able to make DOCs and coaches keep a secret?

No.chance in hell.
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