What to do with perfectly safe, sturdy Pali drop down side crib???

Anonymous
TRU is having a trade-in sale in Sept--you bring in your item and get 25% off a new item (crib, stroller, car seat, etc.). I don't need any of those things but I have 2 perfectly usable drop side cribs (Sorrelle and Pali, neither model recalled) so I was going to give them to someone who needed to buy an item at TRU so they will get the 25% off.
Anonymous
Thanks to all who responded! After posting on craig's list, I received an email from the US Consumer Product Safety Division telling me that what I was doing was illegal.

There is basically nothing legal to do with this (perfectly fine) crib. I was beyond frustrated when I received this email - first, the absolute waste that is being ORDERED by the government here is outrageous, and second, I'm so very glad that my tax dollars are paying for some guy to monitor craig's list to make sure that my perfectly fine crib doesn't get re-sold because of some broad ban that was frankly ridiculous in the first place.

Enjoy the read - I can't wait to hear your reactions...

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Dear Sir or Madam,

I am with the Office of Compliance and Field Operations at the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (Commission). The Commission is an independent federal regulatory agency responsible for the safety of consumer products used in and around the home. We recently observed your listing posted on Craigslist for a drop-side crib. We wanted to make you aware that on June 28, 2011 a new federal law became effective that requires any crib produced or sold after that date to meet new federal requirements related to the safety of full and non-full sized cribs. Among other aspects of the new requirements, retailers must only offer cribs for sale that meet the new Commission requirements. Selling a crib on Craigslist is considered by the Commission staff to be online retailing. Traditional drop side cribs produced prior to June 28, 2011 will not meet the standard and cannot legally be sold. The new standard was put in place as a result of numerous injuries and deaths to infants in cribs.

Here is a specific link for the new crib standard which is posted on the Commission’s website: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11260.html.

Please also take a moment and visit the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission’s website at www.cpsc.gov for recall and other consumer product safety information.

Under the law administered by the Commission it is now illegal to sell or re-sell a crib that does not meet the new requirements of the Crib Safety Standard. It is also illegal to sell a previously recalled crib even if that crib was repaired under a previously announced recall program that provided an immobilizer to prevent the drop side of the crib from being raised or lowered. These cribs do not meet the new crib standard and should not be sold.

We urge you to remove your listing offering your pre-standard crib for sale and to take immediate steps to ensure that the crib is disposed of in a safe manner to prevent further use and to reduce the risk of injuries to infants placed in the crib. We also urge you not to donate or give away your pre-standard crib since it does not meet the new crib safety requirements.

We appreciate your assistance on behalf of consumer safety.

Christopher Nguyen
Office of Compliance and Field Operations
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission

Anonymous
Basically, according to the US Consumer Product Safety Commission, I cannot resell it as is, I cannot resell it even after I bolt the side in place, and I cannot donate it - which I take to mean that I cannot even post it on freecycle. I'd love to give it away - ALL I WANT IS TO NOT WASTE SUCH A USEFUL, MUCH NEEDED PIECE OF BABY FURNITURE!!! But I cannot begin to FIND anyone to give it to!!!

I do NOT want this crib to be thrown in the trash. There is no reason to add to our ever-growing trash dumps because some people were too lazy and careless to take the time to write the ban more appropriately and accurately.
Anonymous
I would take it for my kid. why should you have to throw it away when there are kids without cribs and there is nothing wrong with it
Anonymous
Word of mouth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Word of mouth.


Yup. Ask your nanny or any of your friend's nannies.
Anonymous
Post on your neighborhood listserv that you have a perfectly nice Pali crib that you believe could be used by anyone safely but unfortunately find it isn't legal to sell it or even give it away!

Therefore you were wondering if anyone could take it to the landfill for you.
Anonymous
Does the side come off to make it into a toddler bed? Could you sell it without the side?
Anonymous
You know what, you used the thing with two kids and got your money's worth. STFU about it now. It's nice that you want to help others by giving a crib away, but as you clearly know now, it's illegal even to give it away. Stop focusing on this. Throw it in the trash and move on, for god's sake. You're missing the bigger picture that drop side cribs can kill babies. So yours is high quality and probably fine--right, we get that you're frustrated. Fine. I for one am impressed that after recalling many and then making the rest illegal to trade, the agency is following up on craigslist. Good for them.
Anonymous
So how is selling used drop-side cribs on Craigslist different than selling used carseats on Craigslist? I thought used carseats were supposed to be unsafe and illegal too, but people sell and buy them all the time. Why do they have a federal worker monitoring crib sales but not carseat sales?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So how is selling used drop-side cribs on Craigslist different than selling used carseats on Craigslist? I thought used carseats were supposed to be unsafe and illegal too, but people sell and buy them all the time. Why do they have a federal worker monitoring crib sales but not carseat sales?


It's not illegal to sell used carseats. It's generally recommended to avoid used carseats because you don't know the history (whether it's been in a car accident), but it's not illegal.
Anonymous
Curbcycle. I put stuff out in front of my house and it's gone in an hour. Beat-up stroller, old dishes, crib mattress.... you name it.

There are so many families with multiple small children living in the one-bedroom apartments around here, and they really need the stuff. I saw a woman pushing a snap-and-go frame (just the frame) with a small toddler and an infant in the basket. I hope she's the one who took my ugly but serviceable stroller.

Of course, do make the crib safer before you do this; bolt the dropside in place, or whatever you had in mind.
Anonymous
DH sawed our Pali drop side and then put it out for bulk pickup. Interestingly, it was his idea to saw bc he was concerned someone would use it. I was surprised by how worked up about it he was. Then I watched the scary video about what could happen to the baby.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So how is selling used drop-side cribs on Craigslist different than selling used carseats on Craigslist? I thought used carseats were supposed to be unsafe and illegal too, but people sell and buy them all the time. Why do they have a federal worker monitoring crib sales but not carseat sales?


It's not illegal to sell used carseats. It's generally recommended to avoid used carseats because you don't know the history (whether it's been in a car accident), but it's not illegal.


It is illegal to use a carseat beyond its expiration date and while I don't think the Feds are going to show up to check the expiration date for any carseat sale, but I have seen hospital employees break a carseat with an axe because it was beyond the expiration date.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You know what, you used the thing with two kids and got your money's worth. STFU about it now. It's nice that you want to help others by giving a crib away, but as you clearly know now, it's illegal even to give it away. Stop focusing on this. Throw it in the trash and move on, for god's sake. You're missing the bigger picture that drop side cribs can kill babies. So yours is high quality and probably fine--right, we get that you're frustrated. Fine. I for one am impressed that after recalling many and then making the rest illegal to trade, the agency is following up on craigslist. Good for them.

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