Should I quit before I get fired?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op - it feels like going into a war zone every day. I think my boss is trying to break me and it’s working. I can’t avoid the spotlight and it’s so brutal. And really don’t want to be fired / I would rather own the decision. And say to my boss - you should have who you need. I just hate the idea of it being someone else’s decision

Are you working in a coal mine and put in dangerous unsafe conditions? Working without high voltage without the power off? A roofer working without needed safety harness?

I think perspective on war zone. People yelling at you is something you can deflect especially when you have no reason to respect them at all.

Sure, let’s let OP develop PTSD because this person thinks it’s not “war” enough.

If you have never been in a job environment that will mentally break you then you just can’t get it.

OP - crunch your finances - see what you can do. And leave if you can. Document everything is case you have enough evidence to file with EEOC if you choose. Can you look into FMLA? Take some time off to decompress and make a decision clear-headed as best you can.

Your life is not worth someone’s else’s game. Boss is a miserable loser I bet.

Yes, it’s tough in the market. But you won’t be in the best position to pivot to a new employer if you are just trying to survive. It’s going to feel so incredible when you walk out that door finally OP.

If OP doesn’t need to work for several years or is fine retiring, sure have that attitude. But if they are older than 45 the market is brutal, and being destitute can cause PTSD as well.

It can be done. No job is worth your life.
They don’t own us.

I’m guessing you didn’t grow up poor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op - it feels like going into a war zone every day. I think my boss is trying to break me and it’s working. I can’t avoid the spotlight and it’s so brutal. And really don’t want to be fired / I would rather own the decision. And say to my boss - you should have who you need. I just hate the idea of it being someone else’s decision

Are you working in a coal mine and put in dangerous unsafe conditions? Working without high voltage without the power off? A roofer working without needed safety harness?

I think perspective on war zone. People yelling at you is something you can deflect especially when you have no reason to respect them at all.

Sure, let’s let OP develop PTSD because this person thinks it’s not “war” enough.

If you have never been in a job environment that will mentally break you then you just can’t get it.

OP - crunch your finances - see what you can do. And leave if you can. Document everything is case you have enough evidence to file with EEOC if you choose. Can you look into FMLA? Take some time off to decompress and make a decision clear-headed as best you can.

Your life is not worth someone’s else’s game. Boss is a miserable loser I bet.

Yes, it’s tough in the market. But you won’t be in the best position to pivot to a new employer if you are just trying to survive. It’s going to feel so incredible when you walk out that door finally OP.

If OP doesn’t need to work for several years or is fine retiring, sure have that attitude. But if they are older than 45 the market is brutal, and being destitute can cause PTSD as well.

It can be done. No job is worth your life.
They don’t own us.

I’m guessing you didn’t grow up poor.

I’m poor now. It can be done.

It’s not worth it. It’s just a job. I took a huge hit to my salary to go back to school to leave a toxic industry (education). A job is never worth your life. They don’t own you.

[Anonymous]

I am part of a recent group of layoffs. We are all over 55 with no documented performance issues and are told it’s restructuring. The company is running ads for all of our jobs. I know it’s legal but it’s hurtful after most of us have 20+ years with them and will have difficulty finding new jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am part of a recent group of layoffs. We are all over 55 with no documented performance issues and are told it’s restructuring. The company is running ads for all of our jobs. I know it’s legal but it’s hurtful after most of us have 20+ years with them and will have difficulty finding new jobs.

I would stay on and get terminated and try to negotiate a generous severance. There are special rules employers must follow when terminating employees over age 40.

[Anonymous]

OP how old are you? Family?

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OP I can give you my perspective as someone who was recently in this situation but fortunately was able to move to a better office within my same organization, which I have been with for over a decade. The behavior my managers displayed was incredibly toxic, including telling me that my work was worthless, blaming everything that went wrong on me, threatening me with being fired, etc.

I stuck it out, documented, waited for them to make a mistake in writing, and filed an EEO complaint. Then my new boss was able to move me over. So I am out of the bad situation and my old bosses are under scrutiny.

As hard as it is, quitting is not the answer. I was losing sleep, gaining weight, you name it. You have to find a new position first. It’s a terrible market and looking without a job will make it worse.

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Anonymous wrote:I am part of a recent group of layoffs. We are all over 55 with no documented performance issues and are told it’s restructuring. The company is running ads for all of our jobs. I know it’s legal but it’s hurtful after most of us have 20+ years with them and will have difficulty finding new jobs.

I would stay on and get terminated and try to negotiate a generous severance. There are special rules employers must follow when terminating employees over age 40.

That not really true. There are special rules they need to follow if they want you to waive your right to bring an age discrimination claim. But not special rules just to fire you.

[Anonymous]

You should be hunting for a new job now

[Anonymous]

OP, we need more information. Are you in fed or private sector? Are you currently on a PIP? If not on a PIP, are you told a PIP is coming?How you feel about it being someone else’s decision should not factor into your decision here.

[Anonymous]

Wait it out for the severance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, we need more information. Are you in fed or private sector? Are you currently on a PIP? If not on a PIP, are you told a PIP is coming?How you feel about it being someone else’s decision should not factor into your decision here.

Private sector; am not on a PIP. Was told the term was due to a reorg and loss of clients but across the firm, the most recent terminations have all been employees age 50+. I’m going to wait it out for severance.