Involuntary Transfers

[Anonymous]

FWIW, when I was teaching we lost a slot in October. A teacher who was doing a terrific job with a very difficult class was cut--she was last hired. She ended up at another school. Wonderful teacher. She had been a sub before she was hired. Luckily for another school, she was able to transition there. And, the other first grade teachers at my school ended up with 5-6 more kids per class.

We had a teacher who knew she was moving out of the area with her husband in December and she refused to resign a month early because she knew her "rights."

Difficult year for the remaining teachers--and the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, when I was teaching we lost a slot in October. A teacher who was doing a terrific job with a very difficult class was cut--she was last hired. She ended up at another school. Wonderful teacher. She had been a sub before she was hired. Luckily for another school, she was able to transition there. And, the other first grade teachers at my school ended up with 5-6 more kids per class.

We had a teacher who knew she was moving out of the area with her husband in December and she refused to resign a month early because she knew her "rights."

Difficult year for the remaining teachers--and the kids.

Yeah your describing a destaff in regards to last hire. These are involuntary transfers, they just move you because of your credentials, seniority doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It may be that the ESOL position was reduced if a lot of immigrant families were deported from that particular school. Since she’s young, I assume she was the last one hired, so the first one released due to caseload reduction, but surprising that it’s mid year.

I’m sorry your kid’s teacher left and is behind due to the long term subs. My kids are in high school and both have had disruptive years like this. Try not to stress too much. Keep your kid reading and learning at home and they’ll be ok.

FCPS is a disaster-we all have had years like this. I feel for the teacher who has been taken away from colleagues she knew well and students she formed relationships with this year. It's not ok FCPS. You are dealing with humans the students and teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This happened to a bunch of ESL teachers throughout the county and they were understandably upset.

Yup some had been at their school for years and some now have crazy commutes. But hey we should all be happy that Gatehouse people are nice and comfy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It may be that the ESOL position was reduced if a lot of immigrant families were deported from that particular school. Since she’s young, I assume she was the last one hired, so the first one released due to caseload reduction, but surprising that it’s mid year.

I’m sorry your kid’s teacher left and is behind due to the long term subs. My kids are in high school and both have had disruptive years like this. Try not to stress too much. Keep your kid reading and learning at home and they’ll be ok.

She's not young. Her bio said she has been in the county 18 years and at her last high school 11 years.

FCPS does not care about employees. They let us know daily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is new in FCPS.

First, it is very likely that your kid’s school was interviewing candidates. These placements came about in January. Your school’s principal was not expecting this transfer to happen.

Likely due to Trump’s immigration crackdowns, high schools were not seeing the same numbers of ESOL students as they planned for. This meant that they were over staffed with ESOL teachers. So FCPS looked at teachers’ certifications and decided to move them into current openings across the county rather than add to the budget by hiring more teachers.

The odds of finding a decent sixth grade teacher is really hard on a good day. Finding one in the middle of the year is like finding a unicorn. Hopefully this ESOL teacher can step up to the plate.

How unfair to all involved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't the county try to get someone who actually wants to teach elementary.

Did you even read the posts above? This is about compensating for an unexpected overstaffing. In an ideal world, yes, you’d get someone who really wants to teach elementary. But right now it’s about who is qualified.

This happens. But, what I would really like to see is destaffs at Gatehouse and its tentacles.

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Disturbing that student facing positions were the first to go when FCPS realized that it was "overstaffed." And very few school-based employees would say that there are too many staff members in their buildings. Start with Gatehouse if staffing needs to be cut back.

Schools are understaffed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes there were huge destaffs in ESOL and several people got put back in the classroom.

There are also a lot of AP destaffs.

AP assistant principals?

Or AP as in Advanced Placement teachers.

If FCPS is having to destaff tons of teachers and principals, and our teachers aren't getting real raises, how is our 4 billion budget increasing? ESOL is one of our most expensive per student categories, if that student population is decreasing to the point that FCPS is destaffing ESOL teachers county wide, then there should be dramatic visible savings in the FCPS budget.

Assistant principals

Really?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes there were huge destaffs in ESOL and several people got put back in the classroom.

There are also a lot of AP destaffs.

AP assistant principals?

Or AP as in Advanced Placement teachers.

If FCPS is having to destaff tons of teachers and principals, and our teachers aren't getting real raises, how is our 4 billion budget increasing? ESOL is one of our most expensive per student categories, if that student population is decreasing to the point that FCPS is destaffing ESOL teachers county wide, then there should be dramatic visible savings in the FCPS budget.

Assistant principals

Really?

Assistant principals are transferred all the time, none have been destaffed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes there were huge destaffs in ESOL and several people got put back in the classroom.

There are also a lot of AP destaffs.

AP assistant principals?

Or AP as in Advanced Placement teachers.

If FCPS is having to destaff tons of teachers and principals, and our teachers aren't getting real raises, how is our 4 billion budget increasing? ESOL is one of our most expensive per student categories, if that student population is decreasing to the point that FCPS is destaffing ESOL teachers county wide, then there should be dramatic visible savings in the FCPS budget.

Assistant principals

Really?

Assistant principals are transferred all the time, none have been destaffed.

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I’ve never seen this many admin get moved in the middle of the year. I’ve also never seen principals pulled from their school mid year and told to interim at another school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes there were huge destaffs in ESOL and several people got put back in the classroom.

There are also a lot of AP destaffs.

AP assistant principals?

Or AP as in Advanced Placement teachers.

If FCPS is having to destaff tons of teachers and principals, and our teachers aren't getting real raises, how is our 4 billion budget increasing? ESOL is one of our most expensive per student categories, if that student population is decreasing to the point that FCPS is destaffing ESOL teachers county wide, then there should be dramatic visible savings in the FCPS budget.

Assistant principals

Really?

Assistant principals are transferred all the time, none have been destaffed.

That is correct: none have been destaffed. But they have been moved. Right now some schools are overstaffed with APs. If a principal leaves and that job is filled by a current AP OR if an AP leaves, it will be filled by one of the overstaffed APs. It doesn’t matter where the AP lives and where the school is located.

This is being done now to avoid destaffs in the spring. Asst superintendents have been moving APs proactively now and trying to keep APs in their own region. If they don’t, and one is overstaffed at a school in their region, that AP will likely be moved into another school as soon as there is an opening. And it might not be in the same region.

[Anonymous]

Of course FCPS ignores what students need.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes there were huge destaffs in ESOL and several people got put back in the classroom.

There are also a lot of AP destaffs.

AP assistant principals?

Or AP as in Advanced Placement teachers.

If FCPS is having to destaff tons of teachers and principals, and our teachers aren't getting real raises, how is our 4 billion budget increasing? ESOL is one of our most expensive per student categories, if that student population is decreasing to the point that FCPS is destaffing ESOL teachers county wide, then there should be dramatic visible savings in the FCPS budget.

Assistant principals

Really?

Assistant principals are transferred all the time, none have been destaffed.

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I’ve never seen this many admin get moved in the middle of the year. I’ve also never seen principals pulled from their school mid year and told to interim at another school.

It's kind of a weird flex. Reid made a complete hash of the county-wide boundary study, and the roll-out of the new Skyview High School has been atrocious, but she can wield her power by moving principals and APs around with a phone call. So impressive!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes there were huge destaffs in ESOL and several people got put back in the classroom.

There are also a lot of AP destaffs.

AP assistant principals?

Or AP as in Advanced Placement teachers.

If FCPS is having to destaff tons of teachers and principals, and our teachers aren't getting real raises, how is our 4 billion budget increasing? ESOL is one of our most expensive per student categories, if that student population is decreasing to the point that FCPS is destaffing ESOL teachers county wide, then there should be dramatic visible savings in the FCPS budget.

Assistant principals

Really?

Assistant principals are transferred all the time, none have been destaffed.

That is correct: none have been destaffed. But they have been moved. Right now some schools are overstaffed with APs. If a principal leaves and that job is filled by a current AP OR if an AP leaves, it will be filled by one of the overstaffed APs. It doesn’t matter where the AP lives and where the school is located.

This is being done now to avoid destaffs in the spring. Asst superintendents have been moving APs proactively now and trying to keep APs in their own region. If they don’t, and one is overstaffed at a school in their region, that AP will likely be moved into another school as soon as there is an opening. And it might not be in the same region.

Technically it is a destaff. If an elementary is deemed to not need an AP anymore, they get moved to another school. That is a destaff. A few years ago they added APs to schools because of so many post Covid issues and behaviors and the admin was stretched thin. I guess they decided that wasn’t necessary anymore and now these positions are getting destaffed and moved to openings elsewhere.

People who are seeking their first admin job are going to be waiting awhile because of this and there are also central
Office people applying to open positions and being placed in AP roles.

[Anonymous]

Yeah a destaff and an involuntary transfer are the same thing. Neither one is a firing. You don’t lose your job. You are moved to a school that has need of something you are certified in if your school is overstaffed in that area. They try to do it by seniority but it doesn’t always work out that way. You don’t really get a say so and it sucks. The thing with the APs might be different though, their positions don’t move like teachers’ do.