Involuntary Transfers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will add to this that when teachers and admin have been involuntarily transferred they were given almost no time to prepare. The high school teacher moved to elementary was given 48 hours notice. He was given one sub day to pack up his classroom and say goodbye to his students. His HS students were pretty upset. He has worked at the HS for many years. The admin were told the afternoon before their last day at the school. It is pretty heartless and I don't understand why, if these transfers have to happen, staff cannot be given more time.

Pathetic but not surprising. Reid is totally incompetent, and incompetent people in senior positions often try to compensate for their own inadequacies by behaving imperiously. It’s a way to reassert your authority while those around you are rolling their eyes behind your back.

Like omitting popular choice options for a school name. That may be insignificant in the scheme of things, but it is a simple example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD is in 6th grade and her teacher quit back in December (she was a disaster). We've had a few long turn subs until a teacher was finally placed this week.

The class is already behind because of the last teacher and subs, so I was excited when she got her new teacher. However my daughter said the teacher is really quiet, and I have found out the teacher was forced to come to elementary. She was a high school ESOL teacher who has never taught elementary and didn't want to be moved.

Back in January we were told they were interviewing candidates, but I'm finding out now that wasn't true. I just don't understand how it's the best interest of the students who are already behind to force a high school teacher to teach elementary. I'm very frustrated and admin isn't responding to my specific questions. They are just saying the teacher is "qualified".

Has anyone else seen this before?

Maybe some of the parents can figure out a few ways to help her adjust and be helpful to her. Give her something positive about a difficult transfer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will add to this that when teachers and admin have been involuntarily transferred they were given almost no time to prepare. The high school teacher moved to elementary was given 48 hours notice. He was given one sub day to pack up his classroom and say goodbye to his students. His HS students were pretty upset. He has worked at the HS for many years. The admin were told the afternoon before their last day at the school. It is pretty heartless and I don't understand why, if these transfers have to happen, staff cannot be given more time.

Pathetic but not surprising. Reid is totally incompetent, and incompetent people in senior positions often try to compensate for their own inadequacies by behaving imperiously. It’s a way to reassert your authority while those around you are rolling their eyes behind your back.

Like omitting popular choice options for a school name. That may be insignificant in the scheme of things, but it is a simple example.

What are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't the county try to get someone who actually wants to teach elementary.

Because they treat teachers like disposable cogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't the county try to get someone who actually wants to teach elementary.

Because they treat teachers like disposable cogs.

They really do. Fcps doesn't care. Everyone to them in replaceable and they do not treat teacher with respect. At the school level and certainly not at the Gatehouse level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't the county try to get someone who actually wants to teach elementary.

Because they treat teachers like disposable cogs.

They really do. FCPS doesn't care. People are replaceable to them and they do not treat teachers or staff with respect. There is no respect from school admin and there is a lack of respect from Gatehouse. It's sad. I encourage young teachers to check out other counties. I have two friends who say PWCS and LCPS who were so glad to get out of FCPS-they have not looked back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will add to this that when teachers and admin have been involuntarily transferred they were given almost no time to prepare. The high school teacher moved to elementary was given 48 hours notice. He was given one sub day to pack up his classroom and say goodbye to his students. His HS students were pretty upset. He has worked at the HS for many years. The admin were told the afternoon before their last day at the school. It is pretty heartless and I don't understand why, if these transfers have to happen, staff cannot be given more time.

Pathetic but not surprising. Reid is totally incompetent, and incompetent people in senior positions often try to compensate for their own inadequacies by behaving imperiously. It’s a way to reassert your authority while those around you are rolling their eyes behind your back.

Like omitting popular choice options for a school name. That may be insignificant in the scheme of things, but it is a simple example.

What are you talking about?

DP, but Reid failed to include "Oak View" among 10 possible names for the new western high school, even though it was among the early favorites. The omission was rather glaring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is in 6th grade and her teacher quit back in December (she was a disaster). We've had a few long turn subs until a teacher was finally placed this week.

The class is already behind because of the last teacher and subs, so I was excited when she got her new teacher. However my daughter said the teacher is really quiet, and I have found out the teacher was forced to come to elementary. She was a high school ESOL teacher who has never taught elementary and didn't want to be moved.

Back in January we were told they were interviewing candidates, but I'm finding out now that wasn't true. I just don't understand how it's the best interest of the students who are already behind to force a high school teacher to teach elementary. I'm very frustrated and admin isn't responding to my specific questions. They are just saying the teacher is "qualified".

Has anyone else seen this before?

This is the counties solution to overstaffing in ESOL. Instead of destaffing ESOL teachers, they are going through their credentials and essentially "forcing" them to teach wherever there are openings in the county. It's not based on seniority, it's simply what credentials you have. I'm guessing this teacher has elementary education on her license, so they told her teach elementary or lose your teaching license, I wouldn't be happy with it.

Your admin didn't have a choice. Principals are not allowed to hire anyone right now and have to wait for these ESOL teachers to be placed. For some reason they think this is best for the students.

I'm sorry for your DD. Make sure she is reading at home, practicing math and maybe get some tutoring.

All ESOL teachers are endorsed for K-12. I'm a HS ESOL teacher, and I'd quit if they tried to move me to elementary. But I imagine not everyone can afford to do that. I feel sorry for that teacher - she must be miserable. Elementary when you don't want to be there is bad enough, but coming from HS one loses a ton of autonomy and freedom, and gains a lot of micromanagement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is in 6th grade and her teacher quit back in December (she was a disaster). We've had a few long turn subs until a teacher was finally placed this week.

The class is already behind because of the last teacher and subs, so I was excited when she got her new teacher. However my daughter said the teacher is really quiet, and I have found out the teacher was forced to come to elementary. She was a high school ESOL teacher who has never taught elementary and didn't want to be moved.

Back in January we were told they were interviewing candidates, but I'm finding out now that wasn't true. I just don't understand how it's the best interest of the students who are already behind to force a high school teacher to teach elementary. I'm very frustrated and admin isn't responding to my specific questions. They are just saying the teacher is "qualified".

Has anyone else seen this before?

This is the counties solution to overstaffing in ESOL. Instead of destaffing ESOL teachers, they are going through their credentials and essentially "forcing" them to teach wherever there are openings in the county. It's not based on seniority, it's simply what credentials you have. I'm guessing this teacher has elementary education on her license, so they told her teach elementary or lose your teaching license, I wouldn't be happy with it.

Your admin didn't have a choice. Principals are not allowed to hire anyone right now and have to wait for these ESOL teachers to be placed. For some reason they think this is best for the students.

I'm sorry for your DD. Make sure she is reading at home, practicing math and maybe get some tutoring.

All ESOL teachers are endorsed for K-12. I'm a HS ESOL teacher, and I'd quit if they tried to move me to elementary. But I imagine not everyone can afford to do that. I feel sorry for that teacher - she must be miserable. Elementary when you don't want to be there is bad enough, but coming from HS one loses a ton of autonomy and freedom, and gains a lot of micromanagement.

All ESOL teachers are endorsed for ESOL in K-12, but that's different than a general education endorsement for K-6. It sounds like this person was also endorsed for K-6 general education. That's why they were moved from high school ESOL to elementary general education instead of someone else from their ESOL department with less seniority. It's a horrible way to treat teachers and will not help with staff retention in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is in 6th grade and her teacher quit back in December (she was a disaster). We've had a few long turn subs until a teacher was finally placed this week.

The class is already behind because of the last teacher and subs, so I was excited when she got her new teacher. However my daughter said the teacher is really quiet, and I have found out the teacher was forced to come to elementary. She was a high school ESOL teacher who has never taught elementary and didn't want to be moved.

Back in January we were told they were interviewing candidates, but I'm finding out now that wasn't true. I just don't understand how it's the best interest of the students who are already behind to force a high school teacher to teach elementary. I'm very frustrated and admin isn't responding to my specific questions. They are just saying the teacher is "qualified".

Has anyone else seen this before?

This is the counties solution to overstaffing in ESOL. Instead of destaffing ESOL teachers, they are going through their credentials and essentially "forcing" them to teach wherever there are openings in the county. It's not based on seniority, it's simply what credentials you have. I'm guessing this teacher has elementary education on her license, so they told her teach elementary or lose your teaching license, I wouldn't be happy with it.

Your admin didn't have a choice. Principals are not allowed to hire anyone right now and have to wait for these ESOL teachers to be placed. For some reason they think this is best for the students.

I'm sorry for your DD. Make sure she is reading at home, practicing math and maybe get some tutoring.

All ESOL teachers are endorsed for K-12. I'm a HS ESOL teacher, and I'd quit if they tried to move me to elementary. But I imagine not everyone can afford to do that. I feel sorry for that teacher - she must be miserable. Elementary when you don't want to be there is bad enough, but coming from HS one loses a ton of autonomy and freedom, and gains a lot of micromanagement.

All ESOL teachers are endorsed for ESOL in K-12, but that's different than a general education endorsement for K-6. It sounds like this person was also endorsed for K-6 general education. That's why they were moved from high school ESOL to elementary general education instead of someone else from their ESOL department with less seniority. It's a horrible way to treat teachers and will not help with staff retention in FCPS.

That's exactly what happened to this teacher and it's happening to ESOL teachers throughout the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD is in 6th grade and her teacher quit back in December (she was a disaster). We've had a few long turn subs until a teacher was finally placed this week.

The class is already behind because of the last teacher and subs, so I was excited when she got her new teacher. However my daughter said the teacher is really quiet, and I have found out the teacher was forced to come to elementary. She was a high school ESOL teacher who has never taught elementary and didn't want to be moved.

Back in January we were told they were interviewing candidates, but I'm finding out now that wasn't true. I just don't understand how it's the best interest of the students who are already behind to force a high school teacher to teach elementary. I'm very frustrated and admin isn't responding to my specific questions. They are just saying the teacher is "qualified".

Has anyone else seen this before?

This is the counties solution to overstaffing in ESOL. Instead of destaffing ESOL teachers, they are going through their credentials and essentially "forcing" them to teach wherever there are openings in the county. It's not based on seniority, it's simply what credentials you have. I'm guessing this teacher has elementary education on her license, so they told her teach elementary or lose your teaching license, I wouldn't be happy with it.

Your admin didn't have a choice. Principals are not allowed to hire anyone right now and have to wait for these ESOL teachers to be placed. For some reason they think this is best for the students.

I'm sorry for your DD. Make sure she is reading at home, practicing math and maybe get some tutoring.

All ESOL teachers are endorsed for K-12. I'm a HS ESOL teacher, and I'd quit if they tried to move me to elementary. But I imagine not everyone can afford to do that. I feel sorry for that teacher - she must be miserable. Elementary when you don't want to be there is bad enough, but coming from HS one loses a ton of autonomy and freedom, and gains a lot of micromanagement.

All ESOL teachers are endorsed for ESOL in K-12, but that's different than a general education endorsement for K-6. It sounds like this person was also endorsed for K-6 general education. That's why they were moved from high school ESOL to elementary general education instead of someone else from their ESOL department with less seniority. It's a horrible way to treat teachers and will not help with staff retention in FCPS.

That's exactly what happened to this teacher and it's happening to ESOL teachers throughout the county.

What's even worse is that teachers are not even provided the basic courtesy of time. If teachers choose to resign in the middle of the year, 2-3 weeks notice is the respectful thing to do. This year, teachers, APs and principals have been moved with a day or two notice. It is definitely choice to give teachers 24-48 hour notices to clean out their classrooms and leave. If gatehouse had a heart and was thinking about educators AND students, they would give them 2-3 weeks to pack up their classroom, close out units, finish up loose-ends in grading, and leave notes for whoever is taking over the classes after they leave. Instead, teachers get next to no closure with their colleagues and students. This does not breed conditions for stability for either teachers or students!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will add to this that when teachers and admin have been involuntarily transferred they were given almost no time to prepare. The high school teacher moved to elementary was given 48 hours notice. He was given one sub day to pack up his classroom and say goodbye to his students. His HS students were pretty upset. He has worked at the HS for many years. The admin were told the afternoon before their last day at the school. It is pretty heartless and I don't understand why, if these transfers have to happen, staff cannot be given more time.

Pathetic but not surprising. Reid is totally incompetent, and incompetent people in senior positions often try to compensate for their own inadequacies by behaving imperiously. It’s a way to reassert your authority while those around you are rolling their eyes behind your back.

Like omitting popular choice options for a school name. That may be insignificant in the scheme of things, but it is a simple example.

What are you talking about?

DP, but Reid failed to include "Oak View" among 10 possible names for the new western high school, even though it was among the early favorites. The omission was rather glaring.

You mean "Oak Hill."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:...what I would really like to see is destaffs at Gatehouse and its tentacles.

Amen.