"In case you aren't looking at your email"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Completely ignore. No response.

+1

Also is this a group text chat on your personal phone numbers? That already sounds toxic.

[Anonymous]

Toxic? Definitely not. Not even close.

Unreasonable and passive aggressive? Yes.

[Anonymous]

OP i think you're overreacting.

I also think since covid, the work day is a lot more fluid for a lot of people. Especially younger people. Alot of my colleagues will come in and leave the office at random times during the workday to achieve their "in office" requirements while also avoiding commuter traffic. And it's more normal for people to take a midday walk if they're home, or go to yoga in the middle of the day and come back to the office. And it's more normal for moms and dads of young kids to take time 7-9am and 4-8pm to hang with their kids. Ten years ago, those were completely unacceptable. But the trade off of those being acceptable is that a lot of people are logging in from 6-7am and 7pm-1am in ways that they weren't 10 years ago. A lot of my colleagues still work normal hours in total, but are doing them from totally different times of the day -- and they're really happy about that flexibility. Like my colleague with 2 young kids under the age of 4 who is in LA but works with a lot of east coast people.... he loves getting up 5am his time (8am ET) and working for 3 hours, then hanging out with his kids for a few hours while he leisurely tends to work. Then 10am PT he drives to the office in 30 minutes. Stays for a few hours to login his mandatory in office time and leaves by 3:30pm PT (6:30pm ET), then goes home and hangs with the kids for a bit and then logs in for probably another 5 hours in his evening, after the ET people are all logged off. It ends up being a pretty standard work day for a well paid professional, and it looks like he's working all the time. But he swears he is not - he's just working at the times that work well for him and he loves avoiding traffic and spending a lot of time with his kids and wife. But i'm getting emails from him at all times of day, including a lot of 1am ET my time.

I use this as an example, but almost all my colleagues are working different hours than they used to. And I think we are years past the era of needing to tiptoe around it and apologize for sending after hours emails. No one necessarily expects responses at those hours. But they shouldn't have to apologize for it either. I think anyone under the age of 50 who has any flexibility in their job is benefiting from this right now, and is fine with it. And also knows not to read into after hours emails from their colleagues.

[Anonymous]

I need more context. Is this person your boss? Was the event at 9am? Have people been missing these events? Is there something really important about this event?

[Anonymous]

As toxic as it gets? No, not even anywhere close to as toxic as it gets. You sound incredibly sensitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give it a thumbs up and move on with your life.

This. Imagine how much easier it would have been to give it a thumbs up and forget about it until the morning. Instead, OP it treating it as a crime against humanity and stewing about it.

OP, don't sweat the small stuff, and this is pretty darn small. Not "as toxic as it gets," FFS.

[Anonymous]

An alternate perspective - maybe this younger employee is anxious about whatever work event the reminder pertains to and more generally about supervising people older and more experienced than s/he. Try not to take it personally.

(I'm 54, and this would annoy me, too.)

[Anonymous]

You should call them at 3AM to ask what you can do to help.

[Anonymous]

My boss is a crazy early bird. Bad menopause and hot flashes so she gets up early some days and shoots out emails like crazy, so up at 5 am and doing work.

I on other hand my wife goes to bed early like by 9 pm and I like to shoot out emails and stuff while watching TV between 10 pm and midnight.
Any one cc with us will think we are nuts. Funny part I also go online before I drive to work. So I can email at midnight. She follows up at 5am and I get back to her at six am.

I joke the day is over by 7 am. I also used to pregame Sunday night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should call them at 3AM to ask what you can do to help.

Ha ha reminds me my old job, got up to take a piss at 315 am. Got a message beep in phone can I jump on a meeting at 330 am. Sure why not. Was folks in Australia and I did the video meeting. I got kudos but really I don’t sleep much so from 9pm to 7 am more than happy to chat

[Anonymous]

i honestly think the only people bothered by this are going to be women 50+ in low and mid level jobs.

No one cares when emails are sent anymore. It's not 2012. You have to use common sense about your workplace to know if you need to be checking email after 'your' regular hours. But the sender does not need to save their emails until 9am tomorrow morning. Rather, you're permitted to ignore their email until you see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should call them at 3AM to ask what you can do to help.

Right ...because a text at 1930 is totally the same as a call at 3am.

[Anonymous]

Was it warranted, as in, the recipient had not responded in a timely fashion? If that's the case, then the recipient cannot complain.

If it was not warranted, then yes, this message was definitely aggressive and the sender was out of line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should call them at 3AM to ask what you can do to help.

Malicious compliance is always the answer!😈😈😈

[Anonymous]

if you are exempt working hours are imaginary.