Nobody talks about Johns Hopkins here

[Anonymous]

It's national not regional

Harvard
Hopkins
West point
Yale
Stanford
Annapolis
Princeton


The most important national institutiond

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's national not regional

Harvard
Hopkins
West point
Yale
Stanford
Annapolis
Princeton


The most important national institutiond

Plus MIT

All have national interests of highest magnitude

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, JHU does have a reputation as a grinder school and its Baltimore location likely turns many off, but I also think it suffers from some lack of brand recognition, especially amongst this set. It’s not an Ivy and like Rice or CMU, it doesn’t really have the sports to give it a big national profile (unless you’re a lax head). Doesn’t move the needle as much for the prestige whore moms in NoVa and MoCo. Obviously an objectively “elite” institution, though.

Is its reputation as a no-fun school warranted, compared to similar STEM institutions?
And is its Baltimore location really unsafe? We drive to Baltimore every weekend for youth orchestra, and while certain areas are terribly rundown and depressing, others are pretty nice.

The area surrounding the Hopkins campus is beautiful and very safe.

Yes, Charles Village is very nice, but it is a city location. And while Baltimore has many charms ( see what I did there) it has many challenges as well. Kids who grew up in Philly, NYC, or DC proper would generally not bat an eyelash. If your idea of an urban environment is Vienna, VA, Hopkins, or MICA or UMD Law might be a bit of an adjustment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's national not regional

Harvard
Hopkins
West point
Yale
Stanford
Annapolis
Princeton


The most important national institutiond

Using the word "important" in this context is a sign that you have no clue. Schools are not "important." You sound like the same type of person who is jealous of people who belong to "important" country clubs. Where's the old striver thread when you need it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

So if USNWR drops Chicago to the #12 spot, will the Chicago-haters move on? Is this the entire issue that people are so upset about, that a school with multiple ED options made the top 10, probably for a year? Wow.

You think it’s that high? I don’t. JHU isn’t top 10 and JHU is definitely a tougher admit than Chicago ED.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

You're a troll. Give it a rest. While I didn't go there, I had multiple ivy + hopkins as a choice and have chosen hopkins over lower ivies for stem easily. Especially for engineering and physics which is shit at Dartmouth and Brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

So if USNWR drops Chicago to the #12 spot, will the Chicago-haters move on? Is this the entire issue that people are so upset about, that a school with multiple ED options made the top 10, probably for a year? Wow.

The #12 rank was actually an anomaly. It has been top 10 for years and years, much before ED was a thing.

2026 #6 Re-entered the top 10, jumping from #11.
2025 #11 Slightly improved from #12.
2024 #12 Dropped out of the top 10 for the first time since 2005 due to major methodology changes.
2023 #6 Final year of a decade-long top 10 streak.
2022 #6 Tied with Stanford and UPenn.
2021 #6 Consistent top-tier placement.
2020 #6 Tied with UPenn.
2019 #3 Peak ranking, tied with Yale and Columbia.
2018 #3 Peak ranking, tied with Yale.
2017 #3 First time reaching #3.
2016 #4 Tied with Columbia and Stanford.
2015 #4 Continued the rapid climb of the 2010s.
2014 #5 Tied with Stanford and UPenn.
2013 #4 Tied with Columbia.
2012 #5 Tied with Stanford and UPenn.
2011 #9 Tied with Duke and UPenn.
2010 #8 Tied with Columbia and Duke.
2009 #8 Tied with Columbia and Duke.
2008 #9 Tied with Columbia.

[Anonymous]

I went to Hopkins and took my kid there (TJ student) and he was luke warm to it.

They explicitly said in the admissions presentation that children of divorced or broken families were not welcome which was very shocking to me.

The campus feels more secure than when I went there. I was a TA and student advisor for one of their more "cut throat" programs and it didn't feel cut throat to me (compared to my HYPSM experience). The research opportunities are top notch, music, business and medicine are too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

So if USNWR drops Chicago to the #12 spot, will the Chicago-haters move on? Is this the entire issue that people are so upset about, that a school with multiple ED options made the top 10, probably for a year? Wow.

You think it’s that high? I don’t. JHU isn’t top 10 and JHU is definitely a tougher admit than Chicago ED.

You sound like you went to a shitter lower ranked school with insecurity. There there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

UChicago is far better than Cornell, Dartmouth, and Brown. I would say better than Duke too, but theyre about equal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I went to Hopkins and took my kid there (TJ student) and he was luke warm to it.

They explicitly said in the admissions presentation that children of divorced or broken families were not welcome which was very shocking to me.

The campus feels more secure than when I went there. I was a TA and student advisor for one of their more "cut throat" programs and it didn't feel cut throat to me (compared to my HYPSM experience). The research opportunities are top notch, music, business and medicine are too.

??? You must have heard that wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not top 10. Perhaps USN&WR ranks it as such, but it is not. It is definitely top 20. Maybe even top 15. Which is still great.

To that point, I think it has an "Ivy backup" complex. And again, there is absolutely no shame in that. But not a lot of people aspire to go there. It is more like "I'm super risk averse and don't think I can make an Ivy so I will ED to JHU."

I know someone in their early 40s who was not pre-med and is a very nice, fun, interesting person who had a great experience there and has gone on to do very well. So the "grinder Asian pre-med" stereotype is not totally accurate. But it is not based on nothing.

You sound like a miserable shrew. I wonder what that others think of you. Probably not much at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

UChicago is far better than Cornell, Dartmouth, and Brown. I would say better than Duke too, but theyre about equal.

Not only is it “better” but far easier to get into! Use your ED coupons. What a deal! Who said things in life can’t be too good to be true.

But, Chicago fanatic, go away. This thread is about a superior (albeit not top 10) school: JHU. Show some respect to your ED2 brethren in the top 10-30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

You're a troll. Give it a rest. While I didn't go there, I had multiple ivy + hopkins as a choice and have chosen hopkins over lower ivies for stem easily. Especially for engineering and physics which is shit at Dartmouth and Brown.

Saying the school is top 15 and not top 10 does not make me a troll. That is far from an insult. And many of us don't see a school solely through the lens of STEM. This obsession with STEM and only STEM is part of the problem a lot of people have with Hopkins. If I'm that obsessed with those areas and want to be surrounded with people like that, I would go to MIT or Cal Tech. No brainer.

I don't want to go to school with all kids who are just STEM types. No thanks. That applies to both STEM kids and non-STEM kids.

People who didn't go to top colleges don't get this. There is more to the experience than the school that has the best science resources. I know it is a huge financial investment but your kids deserve better.

I don't want a doctor who is some STEM obsessed robot. The best doctors who treat me and my family went to Columbia, Duke, Middlebury, Williams and Princeton for undergrad.