is Michigan OOS impossible in RD.

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Anonymous wrote:My son's bestie now wants to apply to Mich. Is this a long shot during RD round? Public school w no guidance and the HS is def not a feeder, but very good EC and a 1540 SAT. GPA is good but again, just a random hs where everyone has a good GPA

Yes, it is long shot. Michigan doesn’t give aid to OOS kids. Assuming his family can pay $86,000 a year, he should apply. No one can predict what will happen this year, but it will likely be a lot harder in EA and RD this year.

[Anonymous]

To everyone who cares, get your app in as early as possible so the local AO knows you're out there. That's my thinking. Don't wait until the exact RD deadline. Kids, including my own, tend to wait until the exact deadline. That creates a spiky load of paperwork.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To everyone who cares, get your app in as early as possible so the local AO knows you're out there. That's my thinking. Don't wait until the exact RD deadline. Kids, including my own, tend to wait until the exact deadline. That creates a spiky load of paperwork.

Your thinking is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I think RD will not be impossible but EA actually will be a bloodbath for oos students. The only students applying EA are those for whom Michigan is not their first choice, or who are not full pay. Either way they will fare very poorly compared to ED. I suspect there won't be a huge difference between EA and RD, but I don't imagine RD will be worse off.

+2 ED allows Michigan to predict yield. In previous years, the kids accepted from OOS in EA were the kids with Ivy-level stats that also end up getting into Top10 schools. Michigan loses most of these kids. They also accept high stat legacies during EA because they tend to yield those kids. So many kids are applying to Michigan ED this year, but they seem to be one step down stats-wise from the type of kids Michigan admitted in EA at our school in previous years. It will be interesting to see what happens. They haven’t even hinted at what percent of the class will be accepted ED.

Michigan received almost 110,000 applications last year for first year students. No reason to think that number will decrease this year. With that many applications, there will be large number of students applying ED with top stats. Those students applying EA, even with perfect stats, will probably be overwhelmingly deferred to the RD round. I would think Michigan will accept a huge percentage of ED applicants who have those top stats. I wouldn’t be surprised if 40% of the class is made up of ED admits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think RD will not be impossible but EA actually will be a bloodbath for oos students. The only students applying EA are those for whom Michigan is not their first choice, or who are not full pay. Either way they will fare very poorly compared to ED. I suspect there won't be a huge difference between EA and RD, but I don't imagine RD will be worse off.

+2 ED allows Michigan to predict yield. In previous years, the kids accepted from OOS in EA were the kids with Ivy-level stats that also end up getting into Top10 schools. Michigan loses most of these kids. They also accept high stat legacies during EA because they tend to yield those kids. So many kids are applying to Michigan ED this year, but they seem to be one step down stats-wise from the type of kids Michigan admitted in EA at our school in previous years. It will be interesting to see what happens. They haven’t even hinted at what percent of the class will be accepted ED.

Michigan received almost 110,000 applications last year for first year students. No reason to think that number will decrease this year. With that many applications, there will be large number of students applying ED with top stats. Those students applying EA, even with perfect stats, will probably be overwhelmingly deferred to the RD round. I would think Michigan will accept a huge percentage of ED applicants who have those top stats. I wouldn’t be surprised if 40% of the class is made up of ED admits.

Michigan definitely tries to get as many applications as they can. They have a due date of Feb 1 which is weeks later than any other top30 college and they relentlessly. advertise the fact that they're still taking applications during these 2 weeks. So they scoop up all the applications that kids send in once they're rejected or waitlisted from their EA schools or from kids who didn't apply to enough schools. I'm sure many of these apps go straight to the trash at Michigan because they're not qualified. Take the 110K with a giant grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think RD will not be impossible but EA actually will be a bloodbath for oos students. The only students applying EA are those for whom Michigan is not their first choice, or who are not full pay. Either way they will fare very poorly compared to ED. I suspect there won't be a huge difference between EA and RD, but I don't imagine RD will be worse off.

+2 ED allows Michigan to predict yield. In previous years, the kids accepted from OOS in EA were the kids with Ivy-level stats that also end up getting into Top10 schools. Michigan loses most of these kids. They also accept high stat legacies during EA because they tend to yield those kids. So many kids are applying to Michigan ED this year, but they seem to be one step down stats-wise from the type of kids Michigan admitted in EA at our school in previous years. It will be interesting to see what happens. They haven’t even hinted at what percent of the class will be accepted ED.

Michigan received almost 110,000 applications last year for first year students. No reason to think that number will decrease this year. With that many applications, there will be large number of students applying ED with top stats. Those students applying EA, even with perfect stats, will probably be overwhelmingly deferred to the RD round. I would think Michigan will accept a huge percentage of ED applicants who have those top stats. I wouldn’t be surprised if 40% of the class is made up of ED admits.

Michigan definitely tries to get as many applications as they can. They have a due date of Feb 1 which is weeks later than any other top30 college and they relentlessly. advertise the fact that they're still taking applications during these 2 weeks. So they scoop up all the applications that kids send in once they're rejected or waitlisted from their EA schools or from kids who didn't apply to enough schools. I'm sure many of these apps go straight to the trash at Michigan because they're not qualified. Take the 110K with a giant grain of salt.

DP. My high stats kid applied a few days before the RD deadline last year. Waitlisted/denied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think RD will not be impossible but EA actually will be a bloodbath for oos students. The only students applying EA are those for whom Michigan is not their first choice, or who are not full pay. Either way they will fare very poorly compared to ED. I suspect there won't be a huge difference between EA and RD, but I don't imagine RD will be worse off.

+2 ED allows Michigan to predict yield. In previous years, the kids accepted from OOS in EA were the kids with Ivy-level stats that also end up getting into Top10 schools. Michigan loses most of these kids. They also accept high stat legacies during EA because they tend to yield those kids. So many kids are applying to Michigan ED this year, but they seem to be one step down stats-wise from the type of kids Michigan admitted in EA at our school in previous years. It will be interesting to see what happens. They haven’t even hinted at what percent of the class will be accepted ED.

Michigan received almost 110,000 applications last year for first year students. No reason to think that number will decrease this year. With that many applications, there will be large number of students applying ED with top stats. Those students applying EA, even with perfect stats, will probably be overwhelmingly deferred to the RD round. I would think Michigan will accept a huge percentage of ED applicants who have those top stats. I wouldn’t be surprised if 40% of the class is made up of ED admits.

Michigan definitely tries to get as many applications as they can. They have a due date of Feb 1 which is weeks later than any other top30 college and they relentlessly. advertise the fact that they're still taking applications during these 2 weeks. So they scoop up all the applications that kids send in once they're rejected or waitlisted from their EA schools or from kids who didn't apply to enough schools. I'm sure many of these apps go straight to the trash at Michigan because they're not qualified. Take the 110K with a giant grain of salt.

Are those applications free? With a two essay requirement they certainly don’t make it easy to apply. Just this year, Michigan is really going full steam ahead to get its name out there among the truly top schools in the nation:

https://record.umich.edu/articles/groundbreaking-ad-campaign-emphasizing-u-m-impact/

Michigan is just an immensely popular school nationwide. That number of applicants to a university that isn’t located on the coasts is impressive, no matter how much some try to poo poo it.