Adding some oil to Cerave cream for my face

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. I do have some squaline oil in my bathroom so I'll try a few drops of that first. I'm sensitive to any cream/lotion with any acids, etc.


Are we supposed to add it first or second? I’ve been putting it over my moisturizer. I use Cetaphil.


Conventional wisdom is oil always goes last to seal in the moisturizer or other treatments.


I was taught the opposite. That oil is thinner and lighter than moisturizer so it goes on first to be absorbed into your skin. Then the moisturizer locks in the oil.


There are some exceptions, but generally no you don't want to order it this way. Moisturizers are humectants and oils are occlusives, so if you're looking to hydrate your face you want to use the oil to lock in the moisture provided by your humectant moisturizer. In reverse, the moisturizer can't penetrate the occlusive barrier of an oil, so you don't get the benefit of the moisturizer or any other serum by applying it over an oil. Basically, a humectant won't "lock" anything in but an oil always does. The only borderline situation where this could be a gray area is is the moisturizer we are talking about it some SUPER oil packed almost balm like thing.


Every skincare guide I’ve read says “lightest to heaviest” - so, water based products first, then oil based, last cream based (moisturizers).


This is just wrong, sorry. I mean it probably doesn’t make much difference in practice since it all gets mixed together on the skin anyway, but putting oil, which is purely occlusive, on your face before moisturizer can act as a barrier to the hydrating ingredients in the moisturizer trying to pull water into the skin.


+1


+2. It's not really up for debate...
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I also use the Ordinary’s squalene oil - I put it on after the moisturizer. I used Hyaluronic acid before the moisturizer. No expert but that combo works well for me.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. I do have some squaline oil in my bathroom so I'll try a few drops of that first. I'm sensitive to any cream/lotion with any acids, etc.


Are we supposed to add it first or second? I’ve been putting it over my moisturizer. I use Cetaphil.


Conventional wisdom is oil always goes last to seal in the moisturizer or other treatments.


I was taught the opposite. That oil is thinner and lighter than moisturizer so it goes on first to be absorbed into your skin. Then the moisturizer locks in the oil.


There are some exceptions, but generally no you don't want to order it this way. Moisturizers are humectants and oils are occlusives, so if you're looking to hydrate your face you want to use the oil to lock in the moisture provided by your humectant moisturizer. In reverse, the moisturizer can't penetrate the occlusive barrier of an oil, so you don't get the benefit of the moisturizer or any other serum by applying it over an oil. Basically, a humectant won't "lock" anything in but an oil always does. The only borderline situation where this could be a gray area is is the moisturizer we are talking about it some SUPER oil packed almost balm like thing.


Every skincare guide I’ve read says “lightest to heaviest” - so, water based products first, then oil based, last cream based (moisturizers).


This is just wrong, sorry. I mean it probably doesn’t make much difference in practice since it all gets mixed together on the skin anyway, but putting oil, which is purely occlusive, on your face before moisturizer can act as a barrier to the hydrating ingredients in the moisturizer trying to pull water into the skin.


+1


+2. It's not really up for debate...


+3. Oil last.
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Anonymous wrote:I am using the following and it works very well. I'm in my mid 50's with dry skin in the winter.

AESTURA
ATOBARRIER365 Cream Moisturizer with Ceramides & Niacinamide


I'm also using the Aestura Barrier cream and it's working well for me. I'm 45 with very dry skin.

I also use this hydrating lotion as the first step when I wash my face in the evenings or after a shower. It works so so well, and I can tell a difference when I don't use it.

https://www.target.com/p/hadalabo-rohto-gokujyun-premium-lotion-clear-5-74oz-hada-labo-made-in-japan-7-types-of-hyaluronic-acid-moisturizing-skin/-/A-1003409901?sid=&TCID=PDS-20986569243&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20986569243&gbraid=0AAAAAD-5dfa4OBduFQbD56kua8-eNhOmv&gclid=CjwKCAiA_dDIBhB6EiwAvzc1cC47iG19fccYMmI8iWOaRPRYk4-eLKAzkuKbTz5MEWvbZ9byOowqpBoC9o8QAvD_BwE
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Using an oil on top of Cerave cream is great for winter. You may need to experiment with the type of oil if you are prone to breakouts, but I've never experienced problems with jojoba, argan, and castor oil. I also sometimes will add a bit of Vaseline or Aquaphor to dry patches at night, especially during the coldest times of year.
Anonymous
If you simply put oil on your face it’s just going to sit there. I emulsify oil with hydrosol, pat that over my face and then layer cream on top.
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To those debating the order of application, there is a difference between serums (which may contain oils, but usually also contain “repair” type ingredients like vitamin C or niacinimide) and single ingredient face oils, which are what most people on this thread are recommending. Single ingredient face oils should be applied last, after moisturizer (altho serums can/usually should be applied before moisturizer).
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. I do have some squaline oil in my bathroom so I'll try a few drops of that first. I'm sensitive to any cream/lotion with any acids, etc.


Are we supposed to add it first or second? I’ve been putting it over my moisturizer. I use Cetaphil.


I apply oil first, then moisturizer. I view it as moisturizer locks it in.


I use Kiehl's Midnight Recovery Concentrate and their instructions are the opposite. For their products, they say to use moisturizer first and the oil locks it in.

"Midnight Recovery Concentrate layers well over any of our moisturizers."
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Anonymous wrote:To those debating the order of application, there is a difference between serums (which may contain oils, but usually also contain “repair” type ingredients like vitamin C or niacinimide) and single ingredient face oils, which are what most people on this thread are recommending. Single ingredient face oils should be applied last, after moisturizer (altho serums can/usually should be applied before moisturizer).


This. Serum is not the same as oil.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. I do have some squaline oil in my bathroom so I'll try a few drops of that first. I'm sensitive to any cream/lotion with any acids, etc.


Are we supposed to add it first or second? I’ve been putting it over my moisturizer. I use Cetaphil.


Conventional wisdom is oil always goes last to seal in the moisturizer or other treatments.


I was taught the opposite. That oil is thinner and lighter than moisturizer so it goes on first to be absorbed into your skin. Then the moisturizer locks in the oil.


There are some exceptions, but generally no you don't want to order it this way. Moisturizers are humectants and oils are occlusives, so if you're looking to hydrate your face you want to use the oil to lock in the moisture provided by your humectant moisturizer. In reverse, the moisturizer can't penetrate the occlusive barrier of an oil, so you don't get the benefit of the moisturizer or any other serum by applying it over an oil. Basically, a humectant won't "lock" anything in but an oil always does. The only borderline situation where this could be a gray area is is the moisturizer we are talking about it some SUPER oil packed almost balm like thing.


Every skincare guide I’ve read says “lightest to heaviest” - so, water based products first, then oil based, last cream based (moisturizers).


Nothing is cream-based. Your. moisturizer is going to be oil-based, water-based, or silicone-based.
Anonymous
I have found adding a little rosehip oil with my Cerave daytime lotion works wonders. I've been doing it for the past few winters.
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