UofChicago financial strain and the consequences for arts & humanities

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people copy and paste something and offer no commentary? Don’t you have any thoughts or questions, OP?

She has lots of thoughts on UChicago that she posts weekly and responds to many times as a sock puppet.

That said, this particular bit of info is dismaying and likely to happen at many other top research universities. There will be consolidation, unfilled positions, and larger class sizes at many thanks to the anti-intellectual, anti-science policies of this administration.

I have not posted on UChicago before....maybe someone else?
Watching bc I have a kid interested and subscribed to their paper.

Chicago is in a financial tailspin....buyer beware. Your kid should go elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

I've read most of it. I'm an alumnus and read The Maroon regularly. To the extent that he's frustrated with the way the administration has run the university, that's reasonable. Traditionally, the university IS the faculty not the employer of the faculty. It's not odd at all for faculty to speak up about mismanagement of a university, it's one of their roles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do people copy and paste something and offer no commentary? Don’t you have any thoughts or questions, OP?

She has lots of thoughts on UChicago that she posts weekly and responds to many times as a sock puppet.

That said, this particular bit of info is dismaying and likely to happen at many other top research universities. There will be consolidation, unfilled positions, and larger class sizes at many thanks to the anti-intellectual, anti-science policies of this administration.

I have not posted on UChicago before....maybe someone else?
Watching bc I have a kid interested and subscribed to their paper.

Chicago is in a financial tailspin....buyer beware. Your kid should go elsewhere.

Let's hear it for the .................stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

I've read most of it. I'm an alumnus and read The Maroon regularly. To the extent that he's frustrated with the way the administration has run the university, that's reasonable. Traditionally, the university IS the faculty not the employer of the faculty. It's not odd at all for faculty to speak up about mismanagement of a university, it's one of their roles.

+1, the financialization of Uchicago doesn’t mesh well with many faculty members, but it is necessary for the college to make it in the modern day. Faculty are used to making all the decisions but that era is long gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

He’s a very well regarded classicist, probably one of the most well known in the field.

[Anonymous]

It’s easy to blame the current administration for your financial woes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

He’s a very well regarded classicist, probably one of the most well known in the field.

Unfortunately for him and, frankly, everyone in the field classicists become known for the other things they do in life. Like becoming politicians or even movie actors. Ando surely understands this and maybe that is why he expends so much energy on this mole hill? Just think about it. Aristotle is not remembered because of missives against Democrats. That is footnote sh*t. To me it feels like the professor has given up and, out of frustration with himself, lashing out.

[Anonymous]

😆 spellcheck wins again!

Democritus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is this article saying? They can't attract humanities majors to U of C? Or they are cutting them?

Same question!

[Anonymous]

Wonder if they’ll cut any DEI administrators. Probably not. Pity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

He’s a very well regarded classicist, probably one of the most well known in the field.

Unfortunately for him and, frankly, everyone in the field classicists become known for the other things they do in life. Like becoming politicians or even movie actors. Ando surely understands this and maybe that is why he expends so much energy on this mole hill? Just think about it. Aristotle is not remembered because of missives against Democrats. That is footnote sh*t. To me it feels like the professor has given up and, out of frustration with himself, lashing out.

Makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

It’s interesting that UChicago is the source of many Republican economic ideas. Those ideas practiced at the university are leading to troubles just as Republicans fiscal ideas have led to increasing federal debt problems. While Republicans like to talk about spending as the problem, their tax cuts and decreased regulations - administration after administration - typically balloon the debt, pull consumption forward/goose the economy, and leave matters a few years later in a financial crisis. It’s the Democrats who routinely have to cleanup after Republican economic messes. Same thing at Chicago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I know I should be more worked up about the loss of humanities than I am. I was an English major! But it's hard to see how merging a few obscure language departments is that big a loss. Separate departments = more highly paid deans who don't do all that much.

Looking at several peer schools in a deep dive for my future likely humanities-majoring high schooler, the merges UofC is discussing have already happened at many if not most peer schools. It is just a few languages departments being combined, not the merger of all humanities nor the end of any significant ones like English or History or Anthropology or Philosophy. The plan is fiscally responsible. DCUM loves to rant against UofC and humanities in general. It is misguided ranting. There have been a large number of new or expanded CS and data science majors at many colleges that will end up downsizing or combining in a few years once the bubble is burst. Same with the popular Neuroscience major that was added to many schools 10 yrs ago after being a subfield of biology forever. It is already waning in popularity and the premeds will soon favor something else. Germanic languages and the like never had popularity that anyone remembers, but students with interests in those realms at Uof C will still have similar majors to pursue if they so desire.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All colleges are under financial strain. Not seeing how UChicago is different in that regard.

Many SLACs don't appear to be at all.

This is incorrect. Many LACs/SLACs are under severe financial strain. A small group may not be, but it would be helpful if the above LAC supporter would name the financially sound LACs/SLACs. (The poster doesn't because he/sh knows that it is not true.)