UofChicago financial strain and the consequences for arts & humanities

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Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

He’s a very well regarded classicist, probably one of the most well known in the field.

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It’s easy to blame the current administration for your financial woes.

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Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

He’s a very well regarded classicist, probably one of the most well known in the field.

Unfortunately for him and, frankly, everyone in the field classicists become known for the other things they do in life. Like becoming politicians or even movie actors. Ando surely understands this and maybe that is why he expends so much energy on this mole hill? Just think about it. Aristotle is not remembered because of missives against Democrats. That is footnote sh*t. To me it feels like the professor has given up and, out of frustration with himself, lashing out.

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😆 spellcheck wins again!

Democritus

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Anonymous wrote:What is this article saying? They can't attract humanities majors to U of C? Or they are cutting them?

Same question!

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Wonder if they’ll cut any DEI administrators. Probably not. Pity.

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Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

He’s a very well regarded classicist, probably one of the most well known in the field.

Unfortunately for him and, frankly, everyone in the field classicists become known for the other things they do in life. Like becoming politicians or even movie actors. Ando surely understands this and maybe that is why he expends so much energy on this mole hill? Just think about it. Aristotle is not remembered because of missives against Democrats. That is footnote sh*t. To me it feels like the professor has given up and, out of frustration with himself, lashing out.

Makes no sense.

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It’s interesting that UChicago is the source of many Republican economic ideas. Those ideas practiced at the university are leading to troubles just as Republicans fiscal ideas have led to increasing federal debt problems. While Republicans like to talk about spending as the problem, their tax cuts and decreased regulations - administration after administration - typically balloon the debt, pull consumption forward/goose the economy, and leave matters a few years later in a financial crisis. It’s the Democrats who routinely have to cleanup after Republican economic messes. Same thing at Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I know I should be more worked up about the loss of humanities than I am. I was an English major! But it's hard to see how merging a few obscure language departments is that big a loss. Separate departments = more highly paid deans who don't do all that much.

Looking at several peer schools in a deep dive for my future likely humanities-majoring high schooler, the merges UofC is discussing have already happened at many if not most peer schools. It is just a few languages departments being combined, not the merger of all humanities nor the end of any significant ones like English or History or Anthropology or Philosophy. The plan is fiscally responsible. DCUM loves to rant against UofC and humanities in general. It is misguided ranting. There have been a large number of new or expanded CS and data science majors at many colleges that will end up downsizing or combining in a few years once the bubble is burst. Same with the popular Neuroscience major that was added to many schools 10 yrs ago after being a subfield of biology forever. It is already waning in popularity and the premeds will soon favor something else. Germanic languages and the like never had popularity that anyone remembers, but students with interests in those realms at Uof C will still have similar majors to pursue if they so desire.

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Anonymous wrote:All colleges are under financial strain. Not seeing how UChicago is different in that regard.

Many SLACs don't appear to be at all.

This is incorrect. Many LACs/SLACs are under severe financial strain. A small group may not be, but it would be helpful if the above LAC supporter would name the financially sound LACs/SLACs. (The poster doesn't because he/sh knows that it is not true.)

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Anonymous wrote:All colleges are under financial strain. Not seeing how UChicago is different in that regard.

Many SLACs don't appear to be at all.

This is incorrect. Many LACs/SLACs are under severe financial strain. A small group may not be, but it would be helpful if the above LAC supporter would name the financially sound LACs/SLACs. (The poster doesn't because he/sh knows that it is not true.)

Not the poster you’re asking for but a majority aren’t under any financial strain, especially the top ones. They currently just got untaxed, and most have increasing applications.

If you’re talking about the tiny colleges that have closed, name a single one of any prominence or even top 100 rank. Can you at least list the “many” (5 or so would be good) LACs under “severe financial restrain”

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this is sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

He’s a very well regarded classicist, probably one of the most well known in the field.

Unfortunately for him and, frankly, everyone in the field classicists become known for the other things they do in life. Like becoming politicians or even movie actors. Ando surely understands this and maybe that is why he expends so much energy on this mole hill? Just think about it. Aristotle is not remembered because of missives against Democrats. That is footnote sh*t. To me it feels like the professor has given up and, out of frustration with himself, lashing out.

Well, if his ultimate goal is damaging the university, the joke's on him, because the classics department could easily be on the chopping block and the odds of a middle aged prof finding a tenure-track classics position is somewhere between zero and negative one million.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clifford Ando is essential reading on the issues at the U of C: https://chicagomaroon.com/40932/viewpoints/op-ed/west-virginia-chicago-is-happening-to-you-the-fight-for-the-modern-university/

It's been badly mismanaged for a while now. As an alumnus, I'm incredibly disappointed. It was a special place for me.

While I agree that Prof Ando's articles are interesting, there is something odd about the torrential animosity he displays towards his employer. I mean...no one is forcing you to teach there. If U Chicago is the Devil, go get another job?

Actually, the article is analytical and informative in the tone of an academic research article

I originally posted the link and I agree. It's not animosity, he just cares about the university and its mission and wants to see it well run. That's not even uncommon for people at badly run for profit companies. It's even less odd at an institution that, reasonably I think, commands more loyalty than most companies.

Read his other stuff and get back to me. It's almost pathological.

Is Professor Ando more known for these articles than he is for his own research?

He’s a very well regarded classicist, probably one of the most well known in the field.

Unfortunately for him and, frankly, everyone in the field classicists become known for the other things they do in life. Like becoming politicians or even movie actors. Ando surely understands this and maybe that is why he expends so much energy on this mole hill? Just think about it. Aristotle is not remembered because of missives against Democrats. That is footnote sh*t. To me it feels like the professor has given up and, out of frustration with himself, lashing out.

Well, if his ultimate goal is damaging the university, the joke's on him, because the classics department could easily be on the chopping block and the odds of a middle aged prof finding a tenure-track classics position is somewhere between zero and negative one million.

I’m sorry but no. Prof Ando would very easily get scooped up by any classics department at another top R1. He has good connections with other departments, is a notable scholar, and has an expansive record publishing and training students. Even the most controversial scholars find careers if they have a good record and buddies in academia. It’s a networking game.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s interesting that UChicago is the source of many Republican economic ideas. Those ideas practiced at the university are leading to troubles just as Republicans fiscal ideas have led to increasing federal debt problems. While Republicans like to talk about spending as the problem, their tax cuts and decreased regulations - administration after administration - typically balloon the debt, pull consumption forward/goose the economy, and leave matters a few years later in a financial crisis. It’s the Democrats who routinely have to cleanup after Republican economic messes. Same thing at Chicago.

If only UChicago was the only school that has done this