Coach Asking for Our U13 Cell Numbers to Communicate Directly

Anonymous
I had to take the safe sport certification and what the coach is doing is definitely not permissible at all. In fact, your club admin must address and/or report this misconduct as part of their certification with safesport.

If your admin is not doing so, there is an anonymous way to report. It may be that you reporting just triggers a warning to the coach and a reminder about proper etiquette. Or it may be that it triggers an investigation depending on if there is evidence that suggests further misconduct.

https://www.ussoccer.com/safeguarding/report-a-concern
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m in a bit of conundrum. My son left his car with his coach to play on a new team the coaches forming. He loves the coach – we all do- and loves the teammates. However, the coach always asks my son to give him his private cell phone number and he asks all the other parents as well saying that he needs it to send them information that will help them play well. I happen to know this is a safe sport violation, and coaches should never be in contact with minor players without an adult included. I’m not going to bring this up in the parent chat because I know I will lose my kid playing time next year. However, I’m uncomfortable with the whole situation. What do I do?? Approach the coach and let him know that this is a safe sport violation and could lose him his license? The coach is not a bad guy but may not know this rule. Let the other parents know this is a bad idea and let them choose for themselves? They worship the coach and there’s a cultish vibe. Do what I have been doing, which is shut up and do nothing and be sure my own kid (still 11) doesn’t communicate with any adult without me included ? The kids in question are 11 to 15, this particular group of kids is 11-12.
The club owner is kind of shady so I’m not bringing it up with him.


You have your tween in a club with shady owner? And are more worried about playing time than safety of your minor child? Smh.
Anonymous
That’s weird. Very weird.

I have a college kid and a rising HS senior.

Around u16/17/18- they will decent text coach if they have to miss a practice, etc ask a question- but there was never calling and chatting and long txts, etc

That is very weird and the only time I knew of this was a girls team at a big DMV well-known club and the coach was having inappropriate texts with a 14 year old player and fired.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That’s weird. Very weird.

I have a college kid and a rising HS senior.

Around u16/17/18- they will decent text coach if they have to miss a practice, etc ask a question- but there was never calling and chatting and long txts, etc

That is very weird and the only time I knew of this was a girls team at a big DMV well-known club and the coach was having inappropriate texts with a 14 year old player and fired.


^ my kids are boys and had all boy coaches. I would still feel weird about it at U13. My kids didn’t carry a phone then either.
Anonymous
wtf??? That’s weird. Our coach sends the info to the players via playmatrix. Parents can be on the account too.
Anonymous
I would not be comfortable with this for a u13. However, my son’s former coaches (u16-u17) did this and it didn’t occur to me it was problematic or a violation. Quite a few messages were exchanged though PlayMetrics but the coaches occasionally called and texted him. He has never been alone with any of these coaches and I have seen the text threads and heard conversations and nothing seemed off ever. I will now be more alert with his new coaches. At the same time, he regularly exchanges texts and has phone calls with his GK who helps with recruiting and he definitely has done the same with college coaches over the last few months. Where’s the line?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in a bit of conundrum. My son left his car with his coach to play on a new team the coaches forming. He loves the coach – we all do- and loves the teammates. However, the coach always asks my son to give him his private cell phone number and he asks all the other parents as well saying that he needs it to send them information that will help them play well. I happen to know this is a safe sport violation, and coaches should never be in contact with minor players without an adult included. I’m not going to bring this up in the parent chat because I know I will lose my kid playing time next year. However, I’m uncomfortable with the whole situation. What do I do?? Approach the coach and let him know that this is a safe sport violation and could lose him his license? The coach is not a bad guy but may not know this rule. Let the other parents know this is a bad idea and let them choose for themselves? They worship the coach and there’s a cultish vibe. Do what I have been doing, which is shut up and do nothing and be sure my own kid (still 11) doesn’t communicate with any adult without me included ? The kids in question are 11 to 15, this particular group of kids is 11-12.
The club owner is kind of shady so I’m not bringing it up with him.


If a U13 has a cell phone, you are part of the problem.

Give me a break. Maybe if you only have one kid and can hover, then you don’t need a cell phone in 7th grade. For the rest of us who have multiple kids in club sports, our kids need them to coordinate weather cancellations, early pickups, find them at tournaments, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m in a bit of conundrum. My son left his car with his coach to play on a new team the coaches forming. He loves the coach – we all do- and loves the teammates. However, the coach always asks my son to give him his private cell phone number and he asks all the other parents as well saying that he needs it to send them information that will help them play well. I happen to know this is a safe sport violation, and coaches should never be in contact with minor players without an adult included. I’m not going to bring this up in the parent chat because I know I will lose my kid playing time next year. However, I’m uncomfortable with the whole situation. What do I do?? Approach the coach and let him know that this is a safe sport violation and could lose him his license? The coach is not a bad guy but may not know this rule. Let the other parents know this is a bad idea and let them choose for themselves? They worship the coach and there’s a cultish vibe. Do what I have been doing, which is shut up and do nothing and be sure my own kid (still 11) doesn’t communicate with any adult without me included ? The kids in question are 11 to 15, this particular group of kids is 11-12.
The club owner is kind of shady so I’m not bringing it up with him.


If a U13 has a cell phone, you are part of the problem.

Give me a break. Maybe if you only have one kid and can hover, then you don’t need a cell phone in 7th grade. For the rest of us who have multiple kids in club sports, our kids need them to coordinate weather cancellations, early pickups, find them at tournaments, etc.


Nope.
Anonymous
op,
Name of club
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Anonymous
Most U13s have cell phones.

Definitely a violation. You can send an anonymous push email to MSYSA (or the VA Youth Soccer Association if in VA), and they will sanction the coach.

No way would I allow my kid, while at home at any age, do what you are suggesting is standard operating procedure with this coach/club
Anonymous
So no one calls troll yet? This really can happen in the DMV? Is the coach foreign?
Anonymous
Have your kid give coach YOUR cell #.
Do you think Coach would know?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:wtf??? That’s weird. Our coach sends the info to the players via playmatrix. Parents can be on the account too.


+1
Demosphere, Team Snap, etc...there are a bunch of platforms to choose from.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So no one calls troll yet? This really can happen in the DMV? Is the coach foreign?

FFS. It’s not a troll.
The coach moved with the team to a new club. One boy stayed at the old
Club and the mom told me she made the mistake of giving the coach her son’s number when he asked and the coach called him often and the player found it very stressful and was relieved it was over.
Of course I won’t give my son’s number to him. His cell is just for his family. I approve every contact. I just am irritated my kid and other teammates are being led to do something that’s a bad idea. My son wanted to know why his teammates get texts from the coach and he doesn’t. It’s not just about his playing time in the fall it’s more than that.
Parents be careful yes this happens in the DMV.
And no I wouldn’t worry if he was 16, 17, that’s not 11!!! Him and his teammates are 11. It’s weird.
Anonymous
About seven years ago a club I was associated with required all coaches, both house and travel, to take preventative abuse training. From the coach’s perspective it was how to not put oneself in a legally compromising position even if your intentions are pure. And for parents and kids, it was how to identify predatory behaviors that may not always be based on good intentions. There are many ways to support kids but there are clear red lines that should not be crossed. I found the training to be incredibly insightful as it described how bad actors work in a sports system to isolate and prey on certain kids and their families. The intent of a bad actor is to find one kid that usually fits a particular profile and then isolate and manipulate the kid and parents through positive feedback, inappropriate communications, and ultimately through offerings that do not match what is normal across the team (offering rides or other accommodations to the family), which leads to the bad actor taking liberties with the child. Common attributes are kids with certain indicators for social awkwardness within groups, and kids of single parents or who come from a lower socio-economic status. Other kids and parents on the same team are not the target of the bad actor but will simply play a reinforcing role that "the system" is normal and safe, until it is too late. But don't take my word for it. I would consider reaching out to the organization that offered training to our club (see link below). I have since gotten out of coaching, so I don't know if there are other resources available today. I can tell the OP of this thread that what was described is potentially very suspicious and a coach that isn't open to listening to your concerns or is punitive in response to raising these concerns is likely a coach to be avoided in the first place. Your instinct to protect your kid or somebody elses is good. Don't be that parent who doesn't speak up and then regrets the future.

https://abusepreventionsystems.com/
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