Did Trump's cuts to NOAA and the National Weather Service impact predicting the flash floods in central Texas?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP and others blaming Trump are ghouls. Many of the victims were little girls!

I know the area well. The camps have been there for many, many decades - I went to one. If you've never been there, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thie speed of the flooding was unpredictable, and no amount of money would have made a difference.

Thoughts and prayers.

Indeed (assuming No sarcasm). Also, support for the S&R teams. There will be plenty of time to assign blame later. But then again, it won't be in the headlines and can't be used for politics or news eyeballs (to drive advertising revenue).

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We can dance and sing
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP and others blaming Trump are ghouls. Many of the victims were little girls!

I know the area well. The camps have been there for many, many decades - I went to one. If you've never been there, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thie speed of the flooding was unpredictable, and no amount of money would have made a difference.

Except he’s the President of the US. The buck stops with him and he authorized and wanted cuts made at NOAA. He owns this mess and the loss of life. The fact he lacks empathy and cannot show compassion says a lot more about him than those of us saying he created the problem. He gave a speech this weekend where he talked about how he hates Democrats. Do you think this is ok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP and others blaming Trump are ghouls. Many of the victims were little girls!

I know the area well. The camps have been there for many, many decades - I went to one. If you've never been there, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thie speed of the flooding was unpredictable, and no amount of money would have made a difference.

Except he’s the President of the US. The buck stops with him and he authorized and wanted cuts made at NOAA. He owns this mess and the loss of life. The fact he lacks empathy and cannot show compassion says a lot more about him than those of us saying he created the problem. He gave a speech this weekend where he talked about how he hates Democrats. Do you think this is ok?

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He is President. Texas is completely Republican. Republicans laid off thousands of federal scientists including those with the NWS. They cut civilian use of the military weather satellites. They're spending FEMA money at "Alligator Alcatraz". At this point I'd call this is Republican on Republican violence.

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What's worse - 550 people in NOAA taking early retirement causing this flood or the BBB cutting NOAA in 2026 causing this flood?

[Anonymous]

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I thought they issued a watch the prior day and issued a warning that night when the flood happened. The problem was the camp people all had cell phones muted at night it sounded like. That is understandable and just led to tragic results here.

I am no maga but don’t get how the staffing cuts would have had an impact here.

Agree this is simply the country we live in. The camp was built in a dumb place between two estuaries. It became a toilet bowl and the kiddos were turds. Could happen to anyone. Did you think you were living in the Netherlands all this time?

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You people are gross.

The Guadalupe River is big, not unlike the Potomac, albeit Potomac in the D.C. section is a tidal river. Imagine the Potomac River, the Anacostia River, and tributaries within one hour experiencing rain and flash floods to a similar magnitude. Do you think all the nearby structures/camps/park activities would survive this type of catastrophic flooding in our densely built-up area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP and others blaming Trump are ghouls. Many of the victims were little girls!

I know the area well. The camps have been there for many, many decades - I went to one. If you've never been there, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thie speed of the flooding was unpredictable, and no amount of money would have made a difference.

Except he’s the President of the US. The buck stops with him and he authorized and wanted cuts made at NOAA. He owns this mess and the loss of life. The fact he lacks empathy and cannot show compassion says a lot more about him than those of us saying he created the problem. He gave a speech this weekend where he talked about how he hates Democrats. Do you think this is ok?

None of this should be a surprise at all. His callousness was also on full display during his first term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP and others blaming Trump are ghouls. Many of the victims were little girls!

I know the area well. The camps have been there for many, many decades - I went to one. If you've never been there, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thie speed of the flooding was unpredictable, and no amount of money would have made a difference.

I just think that is a weak and lazy argument. Flooding is in fact predictable, particularly in this area which has flooded many many times. If you are paying careful attention to the locations and rates of the precipitation you in fact can try to predict when and where the flooding will occur. And the more data and experience and research that you put into it will increase the accuracy of the flooding predictions.

You think, but you don't know. Opinion and speculation.. Prove that this could have been prevented through predictive capabilities eliminated by budget cuts. The NWS forecasting offices were operating normally at the time of the disaster, said Greg Waller, service coordination hydrologist with the NWS West Gulf River Forecast Center in Fort Worth.

Would you have said the same thing if we had a President Harris (or even Biden)? Nah, you would have blamed Governor Abbott, and if that didn't stick, then climate change.

No, but you would have. Gleefully. Especially if Biden had made the same cuts Trump did. So you can sit the F down and take it just as you have dished it many times before.

[Anonymous]

Last September Helene killed 108 people and 7 are still missing. Where was the outrage at NOAA then while $hit for brains Brandon did nothing?

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile, no mention is made of Democrats using levee money for themselves betting there would not be a Hurricane Katrina.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, no mention is made of Democrats using levee money for themselves betting there would not be a Hurricane Katrina.

And no mention in your reply about how Republicans are 100% responsible for this actual disaster we are dealing with right now.

[Anonymous]

Yes, the cuts had an impact but at the end of the day, the NWS did its job. It was the local officials who failed to carry through the warnings to the populace.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, no mention is made of Democrats using levee money for themselves betting there would not be a Hurricane Katrina.

And no mention in your reply about how Republicans are 100% responsible for this actual disaster we are dealing with right now.

Whataboutism.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, no mention is made of Democrats using levee money for themselves betting there would not be a Hurricane Katrina.

Bush was president during Katrina and that was over 20 years ago and has NO bearing on this event.

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Anonymous wrote:If a flood like this happened to a blue state or at a Pride festival or something, the Christians would be out in force saying it's god's divine punishment.

So I'll go ahead and say it, it's god's divine punishment for Texas electing Trump and because these Christians are bad people.

If a flood like this happened in a blue state, the state and local officials would have, you know, warned the public.