2025 Division B (middle school) winners
2025 Division C (high school) winners Here you go, proof. Since I’m not privy to actual stats from TJ, this is the next best thing. These are the division b and c winners of this year’s Science Olympiad National Tournament. Even if you want to argue that there are a lot of Asians in California so the picture is a reflection of the population, how are you going to explain Texas? Stop making this about race. It should be about smarts. |
This is actually my intent. So this random picture is a proof that among 2k students of all race in TJ, the “non asian” is the struggle one? And there are none asian that struggle and there are none “non asian” - that thriving? |
You're a special kind of ignorant. Texas has one of the largest Asian/S Asian populations outside of California and Edison, NJ. |
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Due to the nature of the current essay lottery admission, which brings in a mix of well-qualified and struggling students, no one disputes that the qualified half continues to excel and earn accolades, such as these Science Olympiad wins. The concern is with the other half—students who have required TJ to introduce remedial support, something that was never necessary before the essay lottery admission.
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DP Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity. Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers. |
They think they're college professors and treat these 15 year old like their 19. They're used to 15 year old that can learn like 19 year old. |
Having read this board for a long time I can tell you that there were people scratching their head at who was selected in the Quant Q era as well. Just because there are kids who scream "TJ" at many schools doesn't mean that those kids want to go to TJ. They might be saying they want to go but that could be because of parental pressure. There were ways in the Quant Q era to tell the admin team that you didn't want to go to TJ just like there are ways today. Not every high scoring MS wants to attend TJ and the smart ones used the tests to let that be known. Then they could blame the admission process and go to their base HS without getting in trouble with their parents. |
This! +100 They might just needs a better shampoo. |
The teachers are the worst because they give no Fs? I am confused by this statement. |
| OP: TJ students are allowed to drop the class even in the last weeks of the year due to low grade so that gpa does not suffer. Why would you think anyone would be sent back to base school? |
The confusion isn't about who doesn't get in. The confusion is about who does get in. |
Fs is short for fcks |
That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted. |
There are always bad apples out there, but truly my child is either very unlucky and got the worst they have to offer or they have a lot of teachers that really don't care anymore. Jaded. I went to HYPSM and most professors were amazing. Very few were actually aholes to the students. You can have a brutal academic environment and not be heartless. |
Diversity objective is at odds with merit qualifications. |