Does TJ send kids back to their home school?

Anonymous
Not true. If student has aD or even D- and drops, this is recorded as WP and does not affect GPA. Regulation 2445.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...


DP

The top 100-200 kids haven't really changed much. It's the rest of the kids that are getting thinned out.

The notion that there hasn't been a reduction in average academic ability is ridiculous.
120 point drop on the PSAT. NO OTHER SCHOOL has seen this sort of drop.
None of the other school in FCPS saw this sort of drop.
None of the specialized schools in NYC saw this sort of drop.

The SAT numbers are going to come out and I think that will confirm the PSAT results.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...


DP

The top 100-200 kids haven't really changed much. It's the rest of the kids that are getting thinned out.

The notion that there hasn't been a reduction in average academic ability is ridiculous.
120 point drop on the PSAT. NO OTHER SCHOOL has seen this sort of drop.
None of the other school in FCPS saw this sort of drop.
None of the specialized schools in NYC saw this sort of drop.

The SAT numbers are going to come out and I think that will confirm the PSAT results.


To be clear, this is to pre-empt the notion that the 120 point drop in PSAT score was some sort of lingering pandemic effect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not true. If student has aD or even D- and drops, this is recorded as WP and does not affect GPA. Regulation 2445.


College admissions consider applicant with WP as top 5% or bottom 5%?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...


DP

The top 100-200 kids haven't really changed much. It's the rest of the kids that are getting thinned out.

The notion that there hasn't been a reduction in average academic ability is ridiculous.
120 point drop on the PSAT. NO OTHER SCHOOL has seen this sort of drop.
None of the other school in FCPS saw this sort of drop.
None of the specialized schools in NYC saw this sort of drop.

The SAT numbers are going to come out and I think that will confirm the PSAT results.


How many other schools have increased FRE % from 2% to 16%?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...


DP

The top 100-200 kids haven't really changed much. It's the rest of the kids that are getting thinned out.

The notion that there hasn't been a reduction in average academic ability is ridiculous.
120 point drop on the PSAT. NO OTHER SCHOOL has seen this sort of drop.
None of the other school in FCPS saw this sort of drop.
None of the specialized schools in NYC saw this sort of drop.

The SAT numbers are going to come out and I think that will confirm the PSAT results.


How many other schools have increased FRE % from 2% to 16%?


What are you trying to say about the FRE students? So you know how bad their PSAT score have to be for 16% of the class to drag down the PSAT average but 120 points? It's not just the FRE kids, more than 50% of the kids are scoring 1400 or lower.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...



Of course TJ will always do well in these competitions, the teams are almost all Asian students from wealthy feeders…..the students who should be found to TJ.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...


DP

The top 100-200 kids haven't really changed much. It's the rest of the kids that are getting thinned out.

The notion that there hasn't been a reduction in average academic ability is ridiculous.
120 point drop on the PSAT. NO OTHER SCHOOL has seen this sort of drop.
None of the other school in FCPS saw this sort of drop.
None of the specialized schools in NYC saw this sort of drop.

The SAT numbers are going to come out and I think that will confirm the PSAT results.


How many other schools have increased FRE % from 2% to 16%?


What are you trying to say about the FRE students? So you know how bad their PSAT score have to be for 16% of the class to drag down the PSAT average but 120 points? It's not just the FRE kids, more than 50% of the kids are scoring 1400 or lower.


Now that kids come from all middle schools we are likely seeing more kids from families in the lower-income ranges, even if they don't qualify for FRMs. The income distribution has shifted so it's not surprising that the standardized test scores may have shifted.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/10/23/upshot/sat-inequality.html


https://www.forbes.com/sites/markkantrowitz/2021/05/21/how-admissions-tests-discriminate-against-low-income-and-minority-student-admissions-at-selective-colleges/

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...



Of course TJ will always do well in these competitions, the teams are almost all Asian students from wealthy feeders…..the students who should be found to TJ.


Good thing they added seats so there is still room for them AND the kids from underrepresented middle schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Kids who are below 3.0 were sent a letter earlier this spring and were placed in remediation. I haven’t heard if those students will actually be sent back, though.

Please take the student’s state of mind into consideration, imagine how his middle school peers might perceive or react to this situation.

It is unjust and unethical to admit underprepared students solely for the sake of diversity, only to have them struggle academically with poor grades and endure the emotional burden of having to return to their base school.



It is unjust and unethical to assume that “non asian” is the ones who struggle academically and with poor grades, and need to return to base school ….. unless you can show proof.
DP

Selecting students based on an essay is just as likely to select an underprepared Asian as an underprepared URM or white student. But the reason we are selecting underprepared students through the current process is because we wanted the diversity.

Any parent at feeder schools that is paying attention will tell you that the current process is selecting some students that are real head scratchers.


That’s the whole problem with using essays to select students. They are selecting students who have writing skills, but not necessarily STEM schools. At Cooper some of the math counts/science Olympiad students in Honors Algebra II were waitlisted, while a student in Algebra I without any stem club experience was admitted.


Speaking of Science Olympiad, TJ was beaten by both Woodson and Langley in the regional this year:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-01_VA_mary_washington_regional_c/

Teams from other schools made adjustment to provide opportunity to more junior students in the school team. As a result, TJ got 1st at the state tournament leading the 2nd place with a very small spread:
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-03-29_VA_states_c/

TJ was the only team heading to the national, anounced at the VA state award ceremony. Woodson was granted permission to attend the national later, lost some preparation time. But still, Woodson got 25th at the national, not too far from TJ's 19th.
https://www.duosmium.org/results/2025-05-23_nationals_c/

Obviously, the current TJ admission failed to recruit many STEM strong middle schoolers. The mismatch of learning needs is causing waste of resources and opportunities.



Let's see...TJ did better at Nationals this year than almost recent prior years (aside from 2019 & 2021):
2013 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 25th
2014 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 23rd
2018 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2019 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 12th
2021 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 18th
2022 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2023 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 26th
2024 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 21st
2025 Science Olympiad National Tournament (Div. C) 19th


And has been kicking ass at States in recent years:
2010 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2011 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 4th
2012 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 3rd
2013 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2014 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2015 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2016 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2017 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2018 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2019 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2021 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2022 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 2nd
2023 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2024 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st
2025 Virginia Science Olympiad State Tournament (Div. C) 1st


And had their best showing at CMU this year:
2020 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 4th, 5th, 6th
2021 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 3rd, 4th, 6th
2023 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 2nd, 4th, 5th
2025 Carnegie Mellon University Science Olympiad Invitational (Div. C) 1st, 3rd, 4th


And yet...the RWNJs complain...


DP

The top 100-200 kids haven't really changed much. It's the rest of the kids that are getting thinned out.

The notion that there hasn't been a reduction in average academic ability is ridiculous.
120 point drop on the PSAT. NO OTHER SCHOOL has seen this sort of drop.
None of the other school in FCPS saw this sort of drop.
None of the specialized schools in NYC saw this sort of drop.

The SAT numbers are going to come out and I think that will confirm the PSAT results.


How many other schools have increased FRE % from 2% to 16%?


What are you trying to say about the FRE students? So you know how bad their PSAT score have to be for 16% of the class to drag down the PSAT average but 120 points? It's not just the FRE kids, more than 50% of the kids are scoring 1400 or lower.


Now that kids come from all middle schools we are likely seeing more kids from families in the lower-income ranges, even if they don't qualify for FRMs. The income distribution has shifted so it's not surprising that the standardized test scores may have shifted.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/10/23/upshot/sat-inequality.html


https://www.forbes.com/sites/markkantrowitz/2021/05/21/how-admissions-tests-discriminate-against-low-income-and-minority-student-admissions-at-selective-colleges/



Unless we are selecting these students at random (which we very will may be), the relative distribution of high achievement shouldn't impact the test scores this much. Only FRM students are getting an admissions bump everyone else is supposed to be on a level playing field.

It is entirely possible that wealthy parents are more likely to have academically higher kids. It is almost certain that they will have more academically prepared kids.

You know what other demographic group reliably scores well on the SAT?

Almost 10% of asian test takers get a 1500 or higher on the SAT.
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