What is needed to get into T30 LACs unhooked in RD?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My two nieces got into top-25 LACs without much fuss. They simply were fully qualified for admission and applied ED. One had a letter of recommendation from an alumnus.


ED at privates is a huge boost. For rich people. Most of us can’t commit to the full tuition and need to wait for scholarship and aid offers first.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, is there any reason not to ED1/ED2 at any lacs?

It depends on the LAC. ED offers little or no advantage at WASP. At certain other LACs, ED is a real boost over RD. But I wouldn’t be afraid of RD.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Full pay, will be applying RD. Worried because there aren’t many spots left in RD after athletes, questbridge, and ED.

What is needed to be a competitive applicant to these schools in RD?


Overprivileged or underprivileged or be willing to game the system, otherwise just a lottery no matter even if you are naturally the kind of student, deans of admissions claim to want.
Anonymous
Full pay means zilch zero to these colleges, they can fill up their college 10 times with ful pay students and still have more applicants left. What matters is if you can donate million+ or have a connected parent who'll be an asset to student network in some ways.
Anonymous
For example, president of a large company or a small country, producer in Hollywood or superstar in BollyWood, head of NIH or judge of federal court.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Full pay means zilch zero to these colleges, they can fill up their college 10 times with ful pay students and still have more applicants left. What matters is if you can donate million+ or have a connected parent who'll be an asset to student network in some ways.


How do they tell if you can donate?
Anonymous
Child I know got into Dartmouth:

Top 10%
12 APs
4.0 UW GPA - 4.8 W GPA
SAT 1550
6 Academic Awards
4 Summer Schools
2 Research Papers
8 ECs (Ballet, Tennis, Hockey, Sailing, School Paper, Photography, Film Club and Red Cross)
Peer Recommendation was from a Ukrainian classmate and this stood out because she is ethnically Russians (US National though).
Detailed school recommendations from beloved teachers.

I think she said she also submitted a portfolio? Not sure if it was for Dartmouth. A short film and some photographs.


Using this formula (give or take a few) for my son.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Full pay means zilch zero to these colleges, they can fill up their college 10 times with ful pay students and still have more applicants left. What matters is if you can donate million+ or have a connected parent who'll be an asset to student network in some ways.

Need-aware schools, such as Wesleyan and Bates, consider ability to pay in admission decisions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.


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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.


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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.


Could you please comment on these schools if ED?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.


Could you please comment on these schools if ED?


Helps with any outside of T-5.
Anonymous
Show demonstrated interest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.


Could you please comment on these schools if ED?


Helps with any outside of T-5.


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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Full pay means zilch zero to these colleges, they can fill up their college 10 times with ful pay students and still have more applicants left. What matters is if you can donate million+ or have a connected parent who'll be an asset to student network in some ways.


How do they tell if you can donate?


This is not true, especially this coming year when, if Trump and Christopher Rufo continue to get their way, these colleges are going to all be suffering major financial problems.
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