What is needed to get into T30 LACs unhooked in RD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My nephew got into Rice and JHU as an unhooked, white, meh-EC, full-pay boy. Top non-DMV east coast private (thing NYC/NJ/Boston), played a sport for four years, JV Fr - Jr year, then V senior year, not a captain or that good. Solid debater, leader of the debate team, not at the national level, but definitely his strongest EC. Had work experience, worked at an old folks home for 2+ years, and I think wrote his essay about this.

Top student. 1550 SAT unprepped aside from Khan Academy and a review book, took the test once.
Strong GPA - school does not weight and his GPA was a 3.85, which was top 20% of his class, maybe even top 10%, but school does not rank; he was admitted into the Honors Society, which is the top 20% of the class.
All honors/AP level courses when available, BC Calc junior year, 5s on each of the exams he took with the exception of a 4 on the sophomore year AB AP exam(sophomore year: Human Geography, AP Calc AB, Enviromental Science Junior Year: One of the English exams, One of the Spanish exams, Bio, AP Calc BC, APUSH, Senior year: The harder Comp Science, Chemistry, Physics C, The other English and Spanish exam options)

So he is an EXCEPTIONAL student, in my opinion, and Rice was the strongest school to which he was admitted. He applied:
Standford Denied
Harvard Denied
Brown Denied
JHU Accepted
Rice Accepted
He was accepted to other schools that were his low targets/safeties

This post is about LACs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My nephew got into Rice and JHU as an unhooked, white, meh-EC, full-pay boy. Top non-DMV east coast private (thing NYC/NJ/Boston), played a sport for four years, JV Fr - Jr year, then V senior year, not a captain or that good. Solid debater, leader of the debate team, not at the national level, but definitely his strongest EC. Had work experience, worked at an old folks home for 2+ years, and I think wrote his essay about this.

Top student. 1550 SAT unprepped aside from Khan Academy and a review book, took the test once.
Strong GPA - school does not weight and his GPA was a 3.85, which was top 20% of his class, maybe even top 10%, but school does not rank; he was admitted into the Honors Society, which is the top 20% of the class.
All honors/AP level courses when available, BC Calc junior year, 5s on each of the exams he took with the exception of a 4 on the sophomore year AB AP exam(sophomore year: Human Geography, AP Calc AB, Enviromental Science Junior Year: One of the English exams, One of the Spanish exams, Bio, AP Calc BC, APUSH, Senior year: The harder Comp Science, Chemistry, Physics C, The other English and Spanish exam options)

So he is an EXCEPTIONAL student, in my opinion, and Rice was the strongest school to which he was admitted. He applied:
Standford Denied
Harvard Denied
Brown Denied
JHU Accepted
Rice Accepted
He was accepted to other schools that were his low targets/safeties

Rice is great!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.

Could you please comment on these schools if ED?

There are 4 NESCAC schools (5 if you believe Colby) that have basically identical stats. Williams an Amherst are no different than the other three which basically means that they have the same requirements as WASP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.

Could you please comment on these schools if ED?

There are 4 NESCAC schools (5 if you believe Colby) that have basically identical stats. Williams an Amherst are no different than the other three which basically means that they have the same requirements as WASP.

Williams, Amherst, Colby, Bowdoin and...?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.

Could you please comment on these schools if ED?

There are 4 NESCAC schools (5 if you believe Colby) that have basically identical stats. Williams an Amherst are no different than the other three which basically means that they have the same requirements as WASP.

Williams, Amherst, Colby, Bowdoin and...?

I can only think of Wellesley

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's my personal and very rough comparison of LACs to university admissions.

WASP: Ivy-level qualifications (top stats, great ECs, and luck), but not necessarily HYPSM level qualifications. Character traits can be very important. Bowdoin is at this level or pretty close.

T5-10ish LACs: T15-25-ish university qualifications (high stats, really good ECs, and a little luck). Regardless of their ranking, add Wesleyan and Midd to this level for RD. (ED is a different story.)

T10-20 LACs: T20-40-ish university stats (high stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

T20-30 LACs: T30-50-ish university stats (good stats, good ECs) and perhaps demonstrated interest at certain LACs.

FWIW, my DD was salutatorian, 1540 SAT, great ECs, etc. got into 2/3 WASPs, 1/2 Ivies, 1/1 Ivy+'s, and Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Smith, Scripps, and Macalester. Waitlisted at the other Ivy and an LAC outside the T30. Her only rejection was the one WASP.

Could you please comment on these schools if ED?

There are 4 NESCAC schools (5 if you believe Colby) that have basically identical stats. Williams an Amherst are no different than the other three which basically means that they have the same requirements as WASP.

Williams, Amherst, Colby, Bowdoin and...?

I can only think of Wellesley

Middlebury is the other one. Per their latest CDS they all are 1500 and above on SAT, roughly 10% or less admissions. For Colby we have to take their word since they haven’t submitted a CDS since before Covid.

[Anonymous]

Look at Trinity. It’s totally underrated and is on its way up. Gorgeous campus, great professors and the kids seem genuinely happy there. Someone will undoubtably come on talking about the streets around campus, but now having been to Bates, which basically has a bombed out town and all the other liberal arts schools on the east coast, it’s really actually got a lot going for it including West Hartford, which is really nice and good internship opps. Anyway, just throwing it out there because it’s not mentioned as much as other schools on this board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at Trinity. It’s totally underrated and is on its way up. Gorgeous campus, great professors and the kids seem genuinely happy there. Someone will undoubtably come on talking about the streets around campus, but now having been to Bates, which basically has a bombed out town and all the other liberal arts schools on the east coast, it’s really actually got a lot going for it including West Hartford, which is really nice and good internship opps. Anyway, just throwing it out there because it’s not mentioned as much as other schools on this board.

Trinity needs more love here on DCUM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at Trinity. It’s totally underrated and is on its way up. Gorgeous campus, great professors and the kids seem genuinely happy there. Someone will undoubtably come on talking about the streets around campus, but now having been to Bates, which basically has a bombed out town and all the other liberal arts schools on the east coast, it’s really actually got a lot going for it including West Hartford, which is really nice and good internship opps. Anyway, just throwing it out there because it’s not mentioned as much as other schools on this board.

Trinity needs more love here on DCUM

Yeah especially considering that Tucker Carlson and Jesse Watters are alumni.

[Anonymous]

T30 is Bucknell and Lafayette territory. Why is everyone talking about schools ranked much higher?

You will get in if you ED. Spend some time and figure out where you want to go to school ahead of time and it will work out for you.

[Anonymous]

Agree ED is the way to go. But if a kid wants to get a job and have a fun 4 years look at Holy Cross a school with many famous alums. The Harvard Corporation which has been in the news recently has a HC grad on its board classmate of Supreme Court Justice Thomas. HC has perhaps more CE0’ s and corporate leaders than any other LAC. Their alumni cut across business, politics, medicine and law.

[Anonymous]

Lots of better choices than Trinity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at Trinity. It’s totally underrated and is on its way up. Gorgeous campus, great professors and the kids seem genuinely happy there. Someone will undoubtably come on talking about the streets around campus, but now having been to Bates, which basically has a bombed out town and all the other liberal arts schools on the east coast, it’s really actually got a lot going for it including West Hartford, which is really nice and good internship opps. Anyway, just throwing it out there because it’s not mentioned as much as other schools on this board.

Trinity needs more love here on DCUM

Yeah especially considering that Tucker Carlson and Jesse Watters are alumni.

Every school has some skidmarks in their underwear. Just think about poor Holy Cross. Clarence Thomas is quite the cross to bear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree ED is the way to go. But if a kid wants to get a job and have a fun 4 years look at Holy Cross a school with many famous alums. The Harvard Corporation which has been in the news recently has a HC grad on its board classmate of Supreme Court Justice Thomas. HC has perhaps more CE0’ s and corporate leaders than any other LAC. Their alumni cut across business, politics, medicine and law.

Stop, just stop. You aren't helping Holy Cross at all. You sound like an idiot.

[Anonymous]

^Soneone got turned down by HC.