What does the scattergram for Cornell look like at your private school

[Anonymous]

W school public
Child #1
RD 1560
GPA unweighted 3.7

#2
Similar stats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:for admitted RD:
3.7-3.9 GPA
1440-1560 SAT
(one outlier with 3.5 GPA and 1310 SAT)

all GPAs are unweighted
CA private

Our CA private is different

Admit rate is about 14% but swings a lot. About 4 or 5 kids per year typically
Average SAT is only around 1440
Cornell doesn’t yield well at our school, 20-25%
If I had to guess they are competing with UCB and UCLA and typically lose to them.

That is sounds right, my friend in CA had one kid get into Cornell and the other Brown and both picked a top UC instead.

This would only be true for CS and EECS, and Hass.
For premed and prelaw, no brainer you would choose Brown.
For prelaw and hotel management, Cornell hands down.
Premed at Cornell is tough, but still way better than UC.

[Anonymous]

I actually despise Cornell. 30 yrs ago I applied ED in-state to Hum Ec (1410 and top 10%) - deferred and offered spot in following year's freshman class (I think they did this before the guaranteed transfer). I declined and went to a higher ranked Ivy. DD applied 3 yrs ago RD to Arts and Sciences with 1510 and 3.9, tons of leadership, awards, full pay, niche major. Waitlisted. They are supposed to prioritize NYS students yet don't, at least at our private, which gets tons into Columbia every yr.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually despise Cornell. 30 yrs ago I applied ED in-state to Hum Ec (1410 and top 10%) - deferred and offered spot in following year's freshman class (I think they did this before the guaranteed transfer). I declined and went to a higher ranked Ivy. DD applied 3 yrs ago RD to Arts and Sciences with 1510 and 3.9, tons of leadership, awards, full pay, niche major. Waitlisted. They are supposed to prioritize NYS students yet don't, at least at our private, which gets tons into Columbia every yr.

^^I should add DD ended up at my Ivy after being deferred ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually despise Cornell. 30 yrs ago I applied ED in-state to Hum Ec (1410 and top 10%) - deferred and offered spot in following year's freshman class (I think they did this before the guaranteed transfer). I declined and went to a higher ranked Ivy. DD applied 3 yrs ago RD to Arts and Sciences with 1510 and 3.9, tons of leadership, awards, full pay, niche major. Waitlisted. They are supposed to prioritize NYS students yet don't, at least at our private, which gets tons into Columbia every yr.

She prob wasn’t the right “fit” candidate from your high school then? Assume others got in?

In RD, did she fully explain fit? Did you hire the special Cornell whisperer essay counselor ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The different colleges at Cornell have different stat ranges. That’s the big secret about Cornell undergraduate admissions.

There isn’t just one admissions office. Every college handles it on its own and each one is looking for something different.

AND, nobody cares which college you attended at Cornell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be cautious looking at scattergrams for colleges switching to test required this year. In the past few years Cornell was test optional. In our majority white private high school, many had low SAT scores so I believe they went test optional. And these are not URM. With Cornell reinstating test required, the acceptance rate will change. I would not be too comfortable with recent Naviance data.

For kids with strong scores, this could swing in the opposite direction, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

In RD, did she fully explain fit? Did you hire the special Cornell whisperer essay counselor ?

Is this really a thing? Would love to hear more...

Also, how it admit to CALS from out of state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The different colleges at Cornell have different stat ranges. That’s the big secret about Cornell undergraduate admissions.

There isn’t just one admissions office. Every college handles it on its own and each one is looking for something different.

AND, nobody cares which college you attended at Cornell.

If you want to be an engineer, it doesn’t help to be admitted to the Human Ecology school. Each college houses different majors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:for admitted RD:
3.7-3.9 GPA
1440-1560 SAT
(one outlier with 3.5 GPA and 1310 SAT)

all GPAs are unweighted
CA private

Our CA private is different

Admit rate is about 14% but swings a lot. About 4 or 5 kids per year typically
Average SAT is only around 1440
Cornell doesn’t yield well at our school, 20-25%
If I had to guess they are competing with UCB and UCLA and typically lose to them.

That is sounds right, my friend in CA had one kid get into Cornell and the other Brown and both picked a top UC instead.

This would only be true for CS and EECS, and Hass.
For premed and prelaw, no brainer you would choose Brown.
For prelaw and hotel management, Cornell hands down.
Premed at Cornell is tough, but still way better than UC.

For states with strong public schools, it’s not atypical to choose them if you’re a donut hole family. I grew up in Michigan and know people who chose UMich over Ivies. I assume it’s similar in California, Virginia, North Carolina, etc.

[Anonymous]

HACK-level stats, about 10 acceptances a year, NYC private

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would be cautious looking at scattergrams for colleges switching to test required this year. In the past few years Cornell was test optional. In our majority white private high school, many had low SAT scores so I believe they went test optional. And these are not URM. With Cornell reinstating test required, the acceptance rate will change. I would not be too comfortable with recent Naviance data.

For kids with strong scores, this could swing in the opposite direction, right?

Unless there are more high stats kids in your school applying this year, and Cornell caps how many to take from your school. Never know.

[Anonymous]

How about for engineering?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We usually get 5-7 admitted every year in a class of under 90.
Private school.
Not on the East Coast.

Act 33-35
Uw gpa 3.74-3.9

Similar for us.
non-DMV private.
Usually 6-8% of class is admitted each year. Many in RD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It really only matters what the scattergram looks like at your school, OP.

This is exactly right. At our school, 36 applied last year, half got in, about half of those actually enrolled. The lowest admit had a 3.2 GPA and the highest rejection had a 4.0. Most kids who got in applied RD, but of the 7 who applied ED, 5 got in. My older child, who had a very high GPA and scores, would have been WL'd if she had applied to Cornell RD; my younger child, who will probably have more like a 3.6 when he applies, would most likely get in ED. As the previous poster says, the only scattergram that matters is the one for your particular HS. At the top magnet public school in our area, no one gets into Cornell without almost perfect stats and many APs. At our school, there are not even any AP classes offered. Schools are so different from one another - trying to compare the scattergrams is apples and oranges.